what's the matter with kansas?
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Nurseangela, if I may address this one point?
To people of my generation and older, handing out iPads does indeed seem extravagant. As did handing out of bound books, at one point in our history. We home-school one child via a district charter campus a few towns north & the other goes to the local public school. In both cases a few years back, supplying iPads/Chromebooks came up and the discussions went on for some time. We parents and the administrations worked the numbers and it's far cheaper than dead-tree textbooks, even taking into account lost, worn out or broken hardware & software maintenance. Even more so when Apple or Google wants to dump inventory of half-year-old models (they get the write-off, schools get current hardware super cheap). Paper textbook prices really have become that outrageous. It had reached the point where some districts were simply making due with outdated books until the teachers could no longer compensate with supplementary material ("read chapter 4, but ignore any mentions of XYZ and instead read the xeroxed pages I handed out"). Electronic media can be updated instantly to the latest version of an e-textbook. Also, the tablets and notebooks used are locked down, meaning they are *not* game and facebook/instagram machines. They are learning tools.
As an added advantage, by supplying tablets or mini-laptops all students get a chance to become familiar with using the technology that will be needed to do anything from taking fast food orders to typing up resumes & filling out online applications to finding those jobs in the first place. Typewriters and newspaper employment ads are long dead. In our capitalistic society, is this not a fair part of the purpose of an education?
Having been born and mostly raised in California, it always seems odd to me when people speak of places like St. Louis, Kansas or Oklahoma as "Old West". I mean, I understand the westward expansion and all that, but my childhood was soaked in the Old West meaning things like a Mexican or Spanish California, some parts of Nevada & Arizona...all which was driven by Gold and Silver, bored/out of work Conquistadors, and the final set of homestead grants. And Bonanza, of course.
Yes, my own Washington state was once the wild west, too. In fact, many consider the era of the western desperado on horseback to have ended in turn-of-the-century Washington, with the manhunt (the greatest in old west American history, in fact) for killer and prison-breaker Harry Tracy, following his bloody escape from the Oregon state Penitentiary. There was also notorious train robber Bill Miner operating in the Pacific Northwest and Canada, who of course had gotten his start as a stage coach robber in California. Then there were lesser known bandits and gunmen, as well as Indian wars, and the Wobblies (that's Industrial Workers of the World) clashing with corporations in violent confrontations.
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it was said by some left-wing commentators that today's right wing didn't want to go back to the 1950s so much as to the 1890s [gilded age that people like carl rove so revere]. I would go a step further and say they really want things back as they were during the feudal era when lords were lords and serfs were serfs and there was no hope, divine right of kings and all that.
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why would you say so many Kansans were voting to screw themselves over like what has been happening?
Nurseangela, if I may address this one point?
To people of my generation and older, handing out iPads does indeed seem extravagant. As did handing out of bound books, at one point in our history. We home-school one child via a district charter campus a few towns north & the other goes to the local public school. In both cases a few years back, supplying iPads/Chromebooks came up and the discussions went on for some time. We parents and the administrations worked the numbers and it's far cheaper than dead-tree textbooks, even taking into account lost, worn out or broken hardware & software maintenance. Even more so when Apple or Google wants to dump inventory of half-year-old models (they get the write-off, schools get current hardware super cheap). Paper textbook prices really have become that outrageous. It had reached the point where some districts were simply making due with outdated books until the teachers could no longer compensate with supplementary material ("read chapter 4, but ignore any mentions of XYZ and instead read the xeroxed pages I handed out"). Electronic media can be updated instantly to the latest version of an e-textbook. Also, the tablets and notebooks used are locked down, meaning they are *not* game and facebook/instagram machines. They are learning tools.
As an added advantage, by supplying tablets or mini-laptops all students get a chance to become familiar with using the technology that will be needed to do anything from taking fast food orders to typing up resumes & filling out online applications to finding those jobs in the first place. Typewriters and newspaper employment ads are long dead. In our capitalistic society, is this not a fair part of the purpose of an education?
Having been born and mostly raised in California, it always seems odd to me when people speak of places like St. Louis, Kansas or Oklahoma as "Old West". I mean, I understand the westward expansion and all that, but my childhood was soaked in the Old West meaning things like a Mexican or Spanish California, some parts of Nevada & Arizona...all which was driven by Gold and Silver, bored/out of work Conquistadors, and the final set of homestead grants. And Bonanza, of course.
earth to Edith:
If you think THAT then you got 24 hours to git outta Dodge ! You varmit!
What state do ya think Dodge city was located in?
A century of Hollywood John Wayne/John Ford westerns centered on the legendary great cattle drives from Texas to the rail heads in the state of Kansas ( like Dodge City, Abilene)in the post civil war era . Thats what the whole cowboy culture was about.
Kansas was definitely part of the Old West.
Kansas's neighbor Oklahoma was Indian Territory, closed to White Settlers during the hey day of the old West. Was quickly settled when was finnally opened to White settlers (the Sooners) and became a state in like 1912. So Oklahoma had its "Old West" stage even later in time then the rest of the West.
