01 Feb 2017, 3:41 pm
Kraichgauer
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02 Feb 2017, 2:22 am
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02 Feb 2017, 2:29 am
03 Feb 2017, 6:31 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Hopefully Obama can be locked up. Trump's probably too classy to do it though.
Locked up? For what? Speaking his mind when he feels the jackhole in the White House is threatening fundamental American values?
Locked up for taking away fundamental 'American values'.
Obama hadn't shut the door on often desperate immigrants because of their religion and ethnicity. He never appointed a dangerous white nationalist to a high ranking position. He never threatened to take health coverage from people in need - in fact, Obama did the exact opposite. Just how did he threaten our fundamental American values?
See this is the trouble, you have no idea what you're talking about. Obama put a 6 month ban on Iraqis in 2011. Na, he just appointed a bunch of Zionists. Sure, the unaffordable healthcare act was great. By drone bombing people without trial. I guess blowing people up is OK, but banning people is evil
03 Feb 2017, 6:48 pm
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Hopefully Obama can be locked up. Trump's probably too classy to do it though.
Locked up? For what? Speaking his mind when he feels the jackhole in the White House is threatening fundamental American values?
Locked up for taking away fundamental 'American values'.
Obama hadn't shut the door on often desperate immigrants because of their religion and ethnicity. He never appointed a dangerous white nationalist to a high ranking position. He never threatened to take health coverage from people in need - in fact, Obama did the exact opposite. Just how did he threaten our fundamental American values?
See this is the trouble, you have no idea what you're talking about. Obama put a 6 month ban on Iraqis in 2011. Na, he just appointed a bunch of Zionists. Sure, the unaffordable healthcare act was great. By drone bombing people without trial. I guess blowing people up is OK, but banning people is evil
Shhhh we're supposed to pretend that never happened.
03 Feb 2017, 6:50 pm
Kraichgauer
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03 Feb 2017, 7:03 pm
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Hopefully Obama can be locked up. Trump's probably too classy to do it though.
Locked up? For what? Speaking his mind when he feels the jackhole in the White House is threatening fundamental American values?
Locked up for taking away fundamental 'American values'.
Obama hadn't shut the door on often desperate immigrants because of their religion and ethnicity. He never appointed a dangerous white nationalist to a high ranking position. He never threatened to take health coverage from people in need - in fact, Obama did the exact opposite. Just how did he threaten our fundamental American values?
See this is the trouble, you have no idea what you're talking about. Obama put a 6 month ban on Iraqis in 2011. Na, he just appointed a bunch of Zionists. Sure, the unaffordable healthcare act was great. By drone bombing people without trial. I guess blowing people up is OK, but banning people is evil
No, it just shows you're getting your news from Breitbart. Iraqis were never out-and-out banned by Obama. The numbers of Iraqis slowed, but there was never a time when Iraqis didn't come to America. And on top of that, Obama's plan to slow the flow was made clear at both ends, meaning that unlike today under Trump, refugees didn't just find out they wouldn't be allowed into America once they landed in America.
And bombing without trial? Do terrorists wait for a legitimate trial before killing anyone?
03 Feb 2017, 7:29 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Hopefully Obama can be locked up. Trump's probably too classy to do it though.
Locked up? For what? Speaking his mind when he feels the jackhole in the White House is threatening fundamental American values?
Locked up for taking away fundamental 'American values'.
Obama hadn't shut the door on often desperate immigrants because of their religion and ethnicity. He never appointed a dangerous white nationalist to a high ranking position. He never threatened to take health coverage from people in need - in fact, Obama did the exact opposite. Just how did he threaten our fundamental American values?
See this is the trouble, you have no idea what you're talking about. Obama put a 6 month ban on Iraqis in 2011. Na, he just appointed a bunch of Zionists. Sure, the unaffordable healthcare act was great. By drone bombing people without trial. I guess blowing people up is OK, but banning people is evil
No, it just shows you're getting your news from Breitbart. Iraqis were never out-and-out banned by Obama. The numbers of Iraqis slowed, but there was never a time when Iraqis didn't come to America. And on top of that, Obama's plan to slow the flow was made clear at both ends, meaning that unlike today under Trump, refugees didn't just find out they wouldn't be allowed into America once they landed in America.
And bombing without trial? Do terrorists wait for a legitimate trial before killing anyone?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... mas-2011-/
Not exactly the same, but still was done. I knew you'd find an excuse for the water walker though. The thing is, Obama cause most of these people to flee their homes, but I'm sure you'll deny that fact or say he did it because he was worried they had damp or something.
See again, you have no idea what you're talking about. How can you bomb a 'terrorist' who has done nothing wrong? He drone bombed civilians who were suspected of one day maybe thinking about possibly doing something against the US, killing the innocent civilians around them, when they were at a barbecue etc, but I guess in your eyes Obama was just dropping the bomb to try and help get the fire lit of the barbecue.
Kraichgauer
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03 Feb 2017, 7:53 pm
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Hopefully Obama can be locked up. Trump's probably too classy to do it though.
Locked up? For what? Speaking his mind when he feels the jackhole in the White House is threatening fundamental American values?
Locked up for taking away fundamental 'American values'.
Obama hadn't shut the door on often desperate immigrants because of their religion and ethnicity. He never appointed a dangerous white nationalist to a high ranking position. He never threatened to take health coverage from people in need - in fact, Obama did the exact opposite. Just how did he threaten our fundamental American values?
See this is the trouble, you have no idea what you're talking about. Obama put a 6 month ban on Iraqis in 2011. Na, he just appointed a bunch of Zionists. Sure, the unaffordable healthcare act was great. By drone bombing people without trial. I guess blowing people up is OK, but banning people is evil
No, it just shows you're getting your news from Breitbart. Iraqis were never out-and-out banned by Obama. The numbers of Iraqis slowed, but there was never a time when Iraqis didn't come to America. And on top of that, Obama's plan to slow the flow was made clear at both ends, meaning that unlike today under Trump, refugees didn't just find out they wouldn't be allowed into America once they landed in America.
And bombing without trial? Do terrorists wait for a legitimate trial before killing anyone?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... mas-2011-/
Not exactly the same, but still was done. I knew you'd find an excuse for the water walker though. The thing is, Obama cause most of these people to flee their homes, but I'm sure you'll deny that fact or say he did it because he was worried they had damp or something.
See again, you have no idea what you're talking about. How can you bomb a 'terrorist' who has done nothing wrong? He drone bombed civilians who were suspected of one day maybe thinking about possibly doing something against the US, killing the innocent civilians around them, when they were at a barbecue etc, but I guess in your eyes Obama was just dropping the bomb to try and help get the fire lit of the barbecue.
Obama is responsible for those Iraqis fleeing their homes? And golly, I thought it was ISIS all this time!
And if you want to believe those terrorists were innocent people, and hadn't brought death from the skies on themselves, then you go on right ahead.
No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
03 Feb 2017, 10:16 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama is responsible for those Iraqis fleeing their homes? And golly, I thought it was ISIS all this time!
Isn't there a consensus that Obama (and Clinton as Secretary of State) brought about the formation of ISIS?
Kraichgauer wrote:
And if you want to believe those terrorists were innocent people, and hadn't brought death from the skies on themselves, then you go on right ahead.
No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
Would you say the same holds true for the recent raid in Yemen?
03 Feb 2017, 10:21 pm
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04 Feb 2017, 2:20 am
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama is responsible for those Iraqis fleeing their homes? And golly, I thought it was ISIS all this time!
Isn't there a consensus that Obama (and Clinton as Secretary of State) brought about the formation of ISIS?
Kraichgauer wrote:
And if you want to believe those terrorists were innocent people, and hadn't brought death from the skies on themselves, then you go on right ahead.
No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
Would you say the same holds true for the recent raid in Yemen?
Obama and clinton created ISIS? You're of that opinion only if you listen to Trump, Breitbart, or Fox. It was Bush's ill advised military adventurism, while using 9/11 as a pretext, that had ultimately set the dominos into motion that led to ISIS.
And the recent raid into Yemen? That was orangutan head, not Obama.
04 Feb 2017, 2:56 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama is responsible for those Iraqis fleeing their homes? And golly, I thought it was ISIS all this time!
Isn't there a consensus that Obama (and Clinton as Secretary of State) brought about the formation of ISIS?
Kraichgauer wrote:
And if you want to believe those terrorists were innocent people, and hadn't brought death from the skies on themselves, then you go on right ahead.
No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
Would you say the same holds true for the recent raid in Yemen?
Obama and clinton created ISIS? You're of that opinion only if you listen to Trump, Breitbart, or Fox. It was Bush's ill advised military adventurism, while using 9/11 as a pretext, that had ultimately set the dominos into motion that led to ISIS.
I'm not sure where I picked up on that. It was before the election though. Not saying I believe it since I don't know anything about it, just remember in the back of mind them being blamed by whoever.
Kraichgauer wrote:
And the recent raid into Yemen? That was orangutan head, not Obama.
What I was asking is if you had had the same sentiments regarding the Yemen raid as you expressed regarding:
"And if you want to believe those terrorists were innocent people, and hadn't brought death from the skies on themselves, then you go on right ahead. No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists."
Btw stop insulting orangutans!
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04 Feb 2017, 3:00 am
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama is responsible for those Iraqis fleeing their homes? And golly, I thought it was ISIS all this time!
Isn't there a consensus that Obama (and Clinton as Secretary of State) brought about the formation of ISIS?
Kraichgauer wrote:
And if you want to believe those terrorists were innocent people, and hadn't brought death from the skies on themselves, then you go on right ahead.
No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
Would you say the same holds true for the recent raid in Yemen?
Obama and clinton created ISIS? You're of that opinion only if you listen to Trump, Breitbart, or Fox. It was Bush's ill advised military adventurism, while using 9/11 as a pretext, that had ultimately set the dominos into motion that led to ISIS.
I'm not sure where I picked up on that. It was before the election though. Not saying I believe it since I don't know anything about it, just remember in the back of mind them being blamed by whoever.
Kraichgauer wrote:
And the recent raid into Yemen? That was orangutan head, not Obama.
What I was asking is if you had had the same sentiments regarding the Yemen raid as you expressed regarding:
Kraichgauer wrote:
And if you want to believe those terrorists were innocent people, and hadn't brought death from the skies on themselves, then you go on right ahead. No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
Btw stop insulting orangutans!
Just because you had heard that Obama and Clinton had created ISIS doesn't mean it's true. Look at the source.
I don't want to see anyone innocent killed in our military actions, least of all children, which was the case in Yemen. But as for terrorists, they are hardly innocent.
04 Feb 2017, 3:07 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama is responsible for those Iraqis fleeing their homes? And golly, I thought it was ISIS all this time!
Isn't there a consensus that Obama (and Clinton as Secretary of State) brought about the formation of ISIS?
Kraichgauer wrote:
And if you want to believe those terrorists were innocent people, and hadn't brought death from the skies on themselves, then you go on right ahead.
No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
Would you say the same holds true for the recent raid in Yemen?
Obama and clinton created ISIS? You're of that opinion only if you listen to Trump, Breitbart, or Fox. It was Bush's ill advised military adventurism, while using 9/11 as a pretext, that had ultimately set the dominos into motion that led to ISIS.
I'm not sure where I picked up on that. It was before the election though. Not saying I believe it since I don't know anything about it, just remember in the back of mind them being blamed by whoever.
Kraichgauer wrote:
And the recent raid into Yemen? That was orangutan head, not Obama.
What I was asking is if you had had the same sentiments regarding the Yemen raid as you expressed regarding:
Kraichgauer wrote:
And if you want to believe those terrorists were innocent people, and hadn't brought death from the skies on themselves, then you go on right ahead. No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
Btw stop insulting orangutans!
Just because you had heard that Obama and Clinton had created ISIS doesn't mean it's true. Look at the source.
I don't want to see anyone innocent killed in our military actions, least of all children, which was the case in Yemen. But as for terrorists, they are hardly innocent.
I have no idea what the source was. Probably multiple sources over the course of time. Okay, I wasn't sure how the two situations compared.
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04 Feb 2017, 3:09 am
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Obama is responsible for those Iraqis fleeing their homes? And golly, I thought it was ISIS all this time!
Isn't there a consensus that Obama (and Clinton as Secretary of State) brought about the formation of ISIS?
Kraichgauer wrote:
And if you want to believe those terrorists were innocent people, and hadn't brought death from the skies on themselves, then you go on right ahead.
No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
Would you say the same holds true for the recent raid in Yemen?
Obama and clinton created ISIS? You're of that opinion only if you listen to Trump, Breitbart, or Fox. It was Bush's ill advised military adventurism, while using 9/11 as a pretext, that had ultimately set the dominos into motion that led to ISIS.
I'm not sure where I picked up on that. It was before the election though. Not saying I believe it since I don't know anything about it, just remember in the back of mind them being blamed by whoever.
Kraichgauer wrote:
And the recent raid into Yemen? That was orangutan head, not Obama.
What I was asking is if you had had the same sentiments regarding the Yemen raid as you expressed regarding:
Kraichgauer wrote:
And if you want to believe those terrorists were innocent people, and hadn't brought death from the skies on themselves, then you go on right ahead. No one wants innocent people to die, except for terrorists.
Btw stop insulting orangutans!
Just because you had heard that Obama and Clinton had created ISIS doesn't mean it's true. Look at the source.
I don't want to see anyone innocent killed in our military actions, least of all children, which was the case in Yemen. But as for terrorists, they are hardly innocent.
I have no idea what the source was. Probably multiple sources over the course of time. Okay, I wasn't sure how the two situations compared.
Fair enough. Don't sweat it.
