Explosion And Deaths At Ariana Grande Concert

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i thought you said it was a human....(kidding)

not even a grande fan, but am not sure how that incident is comparable to this one.

pretty sure she has to know something if she was bloody there and it was her own show.

who knows? there might be something surprising.

She's not "just a kid" - she's 23. I know that responding to this comment in the way I did may seem petty, but I just do not like condescension, in any form when I come across it. After all, how many of us here have been treated like "just a kid" because we couldn't understand the utterly confusing thought processes behind most forms of (accepted) social interaction?

I'm exactly the same. Don't worry about it. If others can't accept this, then that is their problem.

There's more than one lone wolf. Anyone could do a copy cat. There's sleeper cells all over the place.

There is no science to this crap. It's going to keep happening no matter how many precautions are taken. They just have to wait long enough because everyone lets their guard down eventually. People who choose to go to things like this are going to be more susceptible. That's the times we live in.

Yes, but a copy cat could take weeks, a coordinated attack would be much closer in time frame-- within 48 hours has been their standard operating procedure. And the next will most likely not be in England if it is a multi-faceted attack.

What a bunch of BS. You're trying to make sense out of something that makes no sense. Everyone has free will. Just get a backpack, some explosives and find the next big concert. How hard can it be?! Jesus.

This was just ONE person (supposedly) and see what a big mess just that one person has caused. Get a little group together and disperse to different parts of the country causing several lone wolf attacks and the country would be at a complete standstill.

We're resilient. Not many people advocate backing down, or knuckling under to martial law or a surveillance state. It's awful. They raised the stakes by attacking teenaged girls.

But don't come at me with bigoted solutions that do more harm than the problem. Terrorism didn't develop overnight, and will take time to stop. Lately we've killed a lot of them, but it hasn't solved the problem. Examining the root causes still sounding weak and liberal, or maybe logical?

ETA: Of course, Boko Haram got a lot of unwanted attention after kidnapping the girls from Chibok. It hasn't stopped them, regrettably.

Thats super f*cked up.

Disgusting and horrible what more is their to say.

From what I gleaned from CNN, a great many injuries and deaths may have resulted from people fleeing as a mob in terror, trampling those unfortunates who fell of slipped to the floor.

You're trying to make sense out of something that makes no sense.

i would assume that causing something like this, and remaining undetected the whole time would be just a tiny bit more involved than "dude just stuff a backback with bombs and hit up a concert lmao".

explosives are probably not so easy to come by in the UK.

whether or not it makes sense, it has to be analyzed.

What I think, is that they didnt have enough security. It sounds like the person was able to do it in the foyer because they were able to enter there with a backpack load of stuff and not be questioned. They probably would have went into the actual concert area of they could get in. I haven't been to a concert for several years, but when I used to go to the arena concerts, you couldn't bring in backpacks and purses were actually searched at the door. Even if they couldn't get into the building, an explosion that big is going to end up getting several people anyway. You can only protect people to a point.

...I could bring up the argument of " the show must go on " in favor of Ms. Grande not cancelling her next show (which I presume might be somewhere far from Manchester - Why deprive the planned show-goers their entertainment ?
She could open up with a word/ comment , lead a sing- along of some appropriate songs ( If in Britain , " We'll Meet Again " , for one ?) , and go on from there .
It is certainly not her fault !
Oh , and ASPA - Buzzcocks , , too ! !! !! !! !! !!
I doubt that I have knowingly heard a note of Ms. Grande's music in my life , by the way !

...Not seeing it on CNN , I was thinking of the possibility of panic/crush deaths in situation like these - perhaps other media were trying to follow , at least initially , a " positive " trail by not bringing that up - It might seem even worse to die in those circumstances , at least in the image of it .
I am in this nursing place , remember...I share a room , both I and my (a**hole) roommate (maybe I'm an a**hole also) have separate TVs and a curtain between us , my TV was not getting anything , I heard the sound , no picture . Eventually I was able to get to Big Three stations and see news .
It's a touch past 3:30 AM now and
ABC's news brought up the concept of tramlpling deaths .





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