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08 Jul 2017, 4:26 pm

In politics, this is a tactic. By arguing the logical extremes, an individual can artificially influence public support for his or her more moderate goals. In other words, the extremist argues for aborting all white children which makes the lessor argument of abortion for all seem more appealing and less strident.

This tactic is often used, but expects rational others to shackle themselves to the political Titanic as it sinks.

All people need to gain an understanding of political theory if they wish to avoid these intellectual scams.


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08 Jul 2017, 9:20 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
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Well, I suppose I don't have to since they really don't do anything positive for me but the ideologies they espouse make me feel targeted, especially when they say "white male supremacy" and I try to tell them not to throw me in that category. Living in the Bible Belt, I can tell you that this supposed "white male supremacy" does not benefit me.


This sounds a lot like the "victim mentality" that anti-feminists like to go on and on about all feminists having, what you are describing here of your feelings. Does that strike you as significant?


Where did I say all feminists think that way? I was talking about crazy SJW feminists as well as psychotic SJWs, not sane feminists. I even mentioned I have no problem with sane feminists. My issues are with the ones who think I am Donald Trump Jr. and that I am part of the white male supremacy brotherhood that I am not a part of at all.



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08 Jul 2017, 9:32 pm

I'd love to have free contraception and comprehensive sex education for everyone. That's the best method for reducing the number of abortions. The abortions can be free, and that will reduce the number. Who would sign up to have docs reading into their uterus? Sounds awful, and I don't even have a uterus.

The fake argument goes nowhere. It's an argument clinic or an outrage factory.


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08 Jul 2017, 10:58 pm

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Marknis wrote:
Well, I suppose I don't have to since they really don't do anything positive for me but the ideologies they espouse make me feel targeted, especially when they say "white male supremacy" and I try to tell them not to throw me in that category. Living in the Bible Belt, I can tell you that this supposed "white male supremacy" does not benefit me.


This sounds a lot like the "victim mentality" that anti-feminists like to go on and on about all feminists having, what you are describing here of your feelings. Does that strike you as significant?


Where did I say all feminists think that way? I was talking about crazy SJW feminists as well as psychotic SJWs, not sane feminists. I even mentioned I have no problem with sane feminists. My issues are with the ones who think I am Donald Trump Jr. and that I am part of the white male supremacy brotherhood that I am not a part of at all.


I'm glad to hear you don't think all feminists are like that. Most of the guys that I've seen ranting about SJWs online tend to be rather anti-feminist and seem to think all feminists are the crazy Andrea Dworkin variety. It's strikes me as similar to the arguments many have against Islam of those that are staunchly anti-muslim--the ones who see all muslims as extremists, potential terrorists in the making. These kind of conceptualizations are not uncommon, especially in a community like this one where very binary black and white thinking seems to be more common. I'm glad you can see that not all feminists are insane.



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11 Jul 2017, 9:18 am

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
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Well, I suppose I don't have to since they really don't do anything positive for me but the ideologies they espouse make me feel targeted, especially when they say "white male supremacy" and I try to tell them not to throw me in that category. Living in the Bible Belt, I can tell you that this supposed "white male supremacy" does not benefit me.


This sounds a lot like the "victim mentality" that anti-feminists like to go on and on about all feminists having, what you are describing here of your feelings. Does that strike you as significant?


Where did I say all feminists think that way? I was talking about crazy SJW feminists as well as psychotic SJWs, not sane feminists. I even mentioned I have no problem with sane feminists. My issues are with the ones who think I am Donald Trump Jr. and that I am part of the white male supremacy brotherhood that I am not a part of at all.


I'm glad to hear you don't think all feminists are like that. Most of the guys that I've seen ranting about SJWs online tend to be rather anti-feminist and seem to think all feminists are the crazy Andrea Dworkin variety. It's strikes me as similar to the arguments many have against Islam of those that are staunchly anti-muslim--the ones who see all muslims as extremists, potential terrorists in the making. These kind of conceptualizations are not uncommon, especially in a community like this one where very binary black and white thinking seems to be more common. I'm glad you can see that not all feminists are insane.


I live in the Bible Belt and the rednecks here think Hinduism is the same as Islam.

Typical conversation with them:
"I hate dem dam hendus! Dey ar a branch uv muslum!"
"No, they are not Muslims. Hinduism is not an Abrahamic faith."
"I dun care! Dey ar still muslum becos dey ar from duh Midul East!" :roll:

But I digress. I agree with sane feminists that it's unfair to be told women should be silent, that they are only good for household activities as well as shopping for clothes, and should make themselves come off as stupid in order to be attractive to men. I don't like it when SJW feminists think just because I am a man that I have an easy walk in life because it isn't true at all. I was ostracized because I wasn't a loud alpha male jock, I was told to stop being a baby if I showed my emotions, and I was expected to be able to protect myself from any sort of physical confrontation despite having weak muscles; I still get threatened with bodily harm even today but I am apparently supposed to just "take it". I have also never been given a job promotion because I am not a raging jerk, I flunked out of community college, and I still live with my mother which makes me considered undateable. I am also considered undateable for not being a "Christian" (Someone who says he/she is but is more concerned about being on the winning side than actually living like Jesus). If any of the SJW feminists switched minds with me for a day, they would change their tune completely.

SJWs do seem to be turning away former allies. Laci Green got attacked for "red pilling" and even Franny got some flack for having a white husband. I remember when that guy called The Happy Cat Owner made a video attacking a young boy who was critiquing SJW feminism got some serious backlash, no SJWs came to his defense.



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11 Jul 2017, 2:14 pm

Marknis wrote:
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Marknis wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Well, I suppose I don't have to since they really don't do anything positive for me but the ideologies they espouse make me feel targeted, especially when they say "white male supremacy" and I try to tell them not to throw me in that category. Living in the Bible Belt, I can tell you that this supposed "white male supremacy" does not benefit me.


This sounds a lot like the "victim mentality" that anti-feminists like to go on and on about all feminists having, what you are describing here of your feelings. Does that strike you as significant?


Where did I say all feminists think that way? I was talking about crazy SJW feminists as well as psychotic SJWs, not sane feminists. I even mentioned I have no problem with sane feminists. My issues are with the ones who think I am Donald Trump Jr. and that I am part of the white male supremacy brotherhood that I am not a part of at all.


I'm glad to hear you don't think all feminists are like that. Most of the guys that I've seen ranting about SJWs online tend to be rather anti-feminist and seem to think all feminists are the crazy Andrea Dworkin variety. It's strikes me as similar to the arguments many have against Islam of those that are staunchly anti-muslim--the ones who see all muslims as extremists, potential terrorists in the making. These kind of conceptualizations are not uncommon, especially in a community like this one where very binary black and white thinking seems to be more common. I'm glad you can see that not all feminists are insane.


I live in the Bible Belt and the rednecks here think Hinduism is the same as Islam.

Typical conversation with them:
"I hate dem dam hendus! Dey ar a branch uv muslum!"
"No, they are not Muslims. Hinduism is not an Abrahamic faith."
"I dun care! Dey ar still muslum becos dey ar from duh Midul East!" :roll:

But I digress. I agree with sane feminists that it's unfair to be told women should be silent, that they are only good for household activities as well as shopping for clothes, and should make themselves come off as stupid in order to be attractive to men. I don't like it when SJW feminists think just because I am a man that I have an easy walk in life because it isn't true at all. I was ostracized because I wasn't a loud alpha male jock, I was told to stop being a baby if I showed my emotions, and I was expected to be able to protect myself from any sort of physical confrontation despite having weak muscles; I still get threatened with bodily harm even today but I am apparently supposed to just "take it". I have also never been given a job promotion because I am not a raging jerk, I flunked out of community college, and I still live with my mother which makes me considered undateable. I am also considered undateable for not being a "Christian" (Someone who says he/she is but is more concerned about being on the winning side than actually living like Jesus). If any of the SJW feminists switched minds with me for a day, they would change their tune completely.

SJWs do seem to be turning away former allies. Laci Green got attacked for "red pilling" and even Franny got some flack for having a white husband. I remember when that guy called The Happy Cat Owner made a video attacking a young boy who was critiquing SJW feminism got some serious backlash, no SJWs came to his defense.


Well said, my friend. I think the problem here is, there have been too many of the men's rightser types on WP, and so some may believe anyone expressing criticism for the radical extreme of the feminist political spectrum is secretly anti-woman.


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11 Jul 2017, 2:41 pm

If two groups get into a situation where each tries to act uglier than the other, I get out.


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If two groups get into a situation where each tries to act uglier than the other, I get out.


Correct.


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karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Marknis wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Well, I suppose I don't have to since they really don't do anything positive for me but the ideologies they espouse make me feel targeted, especially when they say "white male supremacy" and I try to tell them not to throw me in that category. Living in the Bible Belt, I can tell you that this supposed "white male supremacy" does not benefit me.


This sounds a lot like the "victim mentality" that anti-feminists like to go on and on about all feminists having, what you are describing here of your feelings. Does that strike you as significant?


Where did I say all feminists think that way? I was talking about crazy SJW feminists as well as psychotic SJWs, not sane feminists. I even mentioned I have no problem with sane feminists. My issues are with the ones who think I am Donald Trump Jr. and that I am part of the white male supremacy brotherhood that I am not a part of at all.


I'm glad to hear you don't think all feminists are like that. Most of the guys that I've seen ranting about SJWs online tend to be rather anti-feminist and seem to think all feminists are the crazy Andrea Dworkin variety. It's strikes me as similar to the arguments many have against Islam of those that are staunchly anti-muslim--the ones who see all muslims as extremists, potential terrorists in the making. These kind of conceptualizations are not uncommon, especially in a community like this one where very binary black and white thinking seems to be more common. I'm glad you can see that not all feminists are insane.


I live in the Bible Belt and the rednecks here think Hinduism is the same as Islam.

Typical conversation with them:
"I hate dem dam hendus! Dey ar a branch uv muslum!"
"No, they are not Muslims. Hinduism is not an Abrahamic faith."
"I dun care! Dey ar still muslum becos dey ar from duh Midul East!" :roll:

But I digress. I agree with sane feminists that it's unfair to be told women should be silent, that they are only good for household activities as well as shopping for clothes, and should make themselves come off as stupid in order to be attractive to men. I don't like it when SJW feminists think just because I am a man that I have an easy walk in life because it isn't true at all. I was ostracized because I wasn't a loud alpha male jock, I was told to stop being a baby if I showed my emotions, and I was expected to be able to protect myself from any sort of physical confrontation despite having weak muscles; I still get threatened with bodily harm even today but I am apparently supposed to just "take it". I have also never been given a job promotion because I am not a raging jerk, I flunked out of community college, and I still live with my mother which makes me considered undateable. I am also considered undateable for not being a "Christian" (Someone who says he/she is but is more concerned about being on the winning side than actually living like Jesus). If any of the SJW feminists switched minds with me for a day, they would change their tune completely.

SJWs do seem to be turning away former allies. Laci Green got attacked for "red pilling" and even Franny got some flack for having a white husband. I remember when that guy called The Happy Cat Owner made a video attacking a young boy who was critiquing SJW feminism got some serious backlash, no SJWs came to his defense.


Well said, my friend. I think the problem here is, there have been too many of the men's rightser types on WP, and so some may believe anyone expressing criticism for the radical extreme of the feminist political spectrum is secretly anti-woman.


In my experience, it's usually just the rednecks who want women back in the kitchen and can't handle intelligent women because they feel entitled to sex for stupid reasons; trying to follow a fake image of masculinity as well as the fact they are brainwashed by mainstream religion. It has nothing to do with politics why they vote right, just their instinctual based thinking.

There's also differences between farmers and rednecks. Farmers truly work hard, rednecks just slack off at the gas station or receive welfare despite how they claim to hate the government. Farmers actually have class while rednecks lack it but are proud of it.



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11 Jul 2017, 6:01 pm

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There's also differences between farmers and rednecks. Farmers truly work hard, rednecks just slack off at the gas station or receive welfare despite how they claim to hate the government. Farmers actually have class while rednecks lack it but are proud of it.


Oh god! you put me in a position where I'm protecting the rights of rednecks?

You can't really apply class to people who often don't have the resources or cultural norms to educate themselves. I think that's unfair. I'm pretty sure if you took a redneck child (American or Australian rural type) and put them in a hardworking farming family the environment will nurture a hardworking young person.

Conversely traditional upper class values, as they apply to women. are no longer relevant. Most women don't want to be all "dolled up" and coiffured for their husband's benefit or be house bound.

Class has no meaning in a future world



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It's best to just ignore the extreme beliefs raving lunatics like these have and move on with your day (unless there's a chance they could become the next Hitler).


I second that. I wouldn't give those creatures another thought, though they're funny to watch on YouTube.


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09 Jun 2018, 2:44 pm

They don't know there being racist when they actually are. That is racism at its finest.



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https://medusamagazine.com/beyond-pro-choice-the-solution-to-white-supremacy-is-white-abortion

What a b***h.


This woman is making the same mistake that a lot of racists make. She isn't clear about who is and isn't white.

Do Jewish women need to get abortions? Do Chechen women need to get abortions?

Some neo-Nazis think that I'm "not really white" because some of my ancestors were Siberian. Am I white?


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12 Jun 2018, 6:30 am

Medusa magazine was satire. They closed up shop because of threads like this. It seems like a variation of Poe's Paradox (invisible link). People have many more opportunities to confirm nonsensical biases, these days. I had a guy ask me for help with a magic book he had found. I suggested DuQuette's book on Crowley's rituals, but he wanted to look at his book, which turned out to be a reference manual for an old PC game. Which way is up? In the direction of the tinfoil hat, it seems.


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12 Jun 2018, 12:03 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... atire.html

Just in case anyone doesn't believe jrjones and needs a more "reliable" source. Yeah, it's satire.

"According to the site, Info Wars, The Federalist, The Gateway Pundit and a popular Russian news organization all have fallen for the elaborate gag.

Medusa will be shut down because 'there is no point in operating a caricature website of Feminism anymore when real life Feminists are now more insane than any caricature we could ever dream up,' according to the creator."


It's funny: he claims that feminists can't be parodied anymore, right after admitting it was right wing media sites like Info Wars that are the ones who fell for it and thought it was real, not feminists.

So basically anti-feminists were more likely to be fooled by this parody of feminism than actual feminists were. Why am I not surprised?



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13 Jun 2018, 4:48 am

Meanwhile at WashPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html


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