02 Feb 2018, 4:32 am
goldfish21 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
um, how could you "accidentally" shoot 4 people? 
Could have been a shotgun that accidentally discharged one shell when the girl dropped the gun for all we know.. there are such things as accidental shootings, either by human error, some act of God, or any sort of mechanical failure or faulty ammunition.
That would be Hollywood, shotgun blast are not that wide.
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02 Feb 2018, 4:34 am
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Personally, I think it's more of a numbers game than anything & these are the numbers that matter:
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That's 89 firearms per 100 residents, making the U.S. the No. 1 country for gun ownership. Canada, on the other hand, ranks 13th on the study's list, with 9.95 million firearms — or 31 per 100 residents. Moore is right that Canada has a far lower rate of firearm homicides than its neighbour to the south.May 26, 2014
More guns, more gun problems. Seems like there's a direct correlation.
But still, this particular gun violence phenomenon seems to occur significantly more in the USA than anywhere else. Why?
Geographic proximity to other events resulting in copycats?Those gun ownership numbers are skewed, it’s not even that high in my state (nicknamed the GunShine State). Most households that own a gun, have more then one. I personally have over double digits, not going to give an exact number though.
Ultimately we have a people problem, not a tool problem.
The numbers aren't skewed at all. They're apples to apples comparisons of per capita rates of gun ownership. Canadian gun owners are likely to own multiple weapons, too. Even if there are a lot of collectors, there are still going to be many more who only on a couple or just one gun. With WAY more guns available, of course there are more problems with them. But the rates at which there are more problems are kinda off the charts compared to any other country.
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02 Feb 2018, 4:35 am
SH90 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
um, how could you "accidentally" shoot 4 people?
Could have been a shotgun that accidentally discharged one shell when the girl dropped the gun for all we know.. there are such things as accidental shootings, either by human error, some act of God, or any sort of mechanical failure or faulty ammunition.
That would be Hollywood, shotgun blast are not that wide.
Coulda brought mama's sawed off in for show and tell.
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02 Feb 2018, 4:55 pm
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Mudboy wrote:
My grandmother gave me and my cousin our first 22 pistols when we were 4. It was to keep us safe from wild animals and hippies, when we went out to play...
Hippies?!
It was the 60's in the mountains of southern California. There were a lot of them in our canyon. Grandma was just keeping us safe. The legal aspects about who was allowed to have guns were never discussed back then. Guns are tools.
We had to clean and eat what we shot. We had to practice on my uncles chickens (I think he just liked to make us clean them so he did not have to). I liked rabbit and quail. We figured mountain lions and hippies would probably taste nasty.
Mass shootings did not happen a couple of generations ago. Fights between people happened with fists and guns stayed in the holsters.
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02 Feb 2018, 7:12 pm
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Ultimately we have a people problem, not a tool problem.
I agree, but people problems are usually caused by capitalism gone crazy.
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02 Feb 2018, 7:21 pm
Mudboy wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Mudboy wrote:
My grandmother gave me and my cousin our first 22 pistols when we were 4. It was to keep us safe from wild animals and hippies, when we went out to play...
Hippies?!
It was the 60's in the mountains of southern California. There were a lot of them in our canyon. Grandma was just keeping us safe. The legal aspects about who was allowed to have guns were never discussed back then. Guns are tools.
We had to clean and eat what we shot. We had to practice on my uncles chickens (I think he just liked to make us clean them so he did not have to). I liked rabbit and quail. We figured mountain lions and hippies would probably taste nasty.
Mass shootings did not happen a couple of generations ago. Fights between people happened with fists and guns stayed in the holsters.
If anyone in my family had ever given my toddlers these "tools" they would have ended up in court, it's an offence here to allow children access to firearms. Thank goodness.
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