Paul Ryan Believes Trump Will Not Fire Robert Mueller

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Kraichgauer
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25 Mar 2018, 8:18 pm

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The American people voted Trump in, that's a fact. Nothing to do with Russia. The Dems chose the worst possible candidate in history and probably the only person Trump could have beaten. Lindsay Graham is a corrupt, evil war mongering psychopath. So his motives have nothing to do with justice. He's just a deep state little bi**h.


The Electoral College voted Trump in, while the people chose Clinton.
Even if Graham is everything you say he is, that doesn't mean he isn't on the right side with Mueller. Personally, I think Graham is an ex-military closet case trying to look super-hetero macho.
There is no deep state, other than government workers trying to do their jobs, regardless of an insane idiot in the White House screwing up anything sensical with his simple minded and dangerous policies and chronic tweeting.


Nope. The people chose Trump via your voting system. The 'popular vote' is irrelevant. Nigel Farage's party in the UK would have had loads of seats in the 2015 election if we had a different system. But we don't. Get over it.
He is, he said bombing North Korea would be "worth it". You are silent about something like that and cheer on someone like that who calls for a war that would probably kill more than a million people and could spark a war with China yet you go mad if Trump says something stupid on Twitter. Just ridiculous frankly. No he's a war mongering evil psycho who knows how much power the MIC has and cares more about the profits of the arms industry than he does about a million people dying. The guy should be in the dock at the Hague.
Yes there is. They don't care about justice, they just care about war.


The Electoral College was meant to keep someone like Trump from getting elected, so obviously something has gone seriously wrong with it.
Who says I cheer wars on? I was firmly against Desert Storm.
Who says I cheer on someone who wants to go to war with China? Are you talking about that psycho political hack, Bolton? I never supported that asswipe!


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28 Mar 2018, 1:34 pm

That's just something you made up. You would be happy if Hillary had gotten in so your point is null and void.
All I've seen you do is make excuses for wars and war mongers.
I mention Graham and you jump to Bolton. You have sung the praises of McCain too, the most psychotic evil war monger of the lot.


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28 Mar 2018, 8:57 pm

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That's just something you made up. You would be happy if Hillary had gotten in so your point is null and void.
All I've seen you do is make excuses for wars and war mongers.
I mention Graham and you jump to Bolton. You have sung the praises of McCain too, the most psychotic evil war monger of the lot.


No, I didn't make anything up. The founding fathers were afraid of absolute democracy, because they knew an incompetent demagogue could get elected. Hence the Electoral College.
I voted for Clinton only because she wasn't Trump. I consider myself a Bernie Sanders guy.
McCain and Graham are cheerleaders, not the prime movers when it comes to war. I do not excuse them for their past policies, though I do appreciate that they aren't buckling down to Trump.


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29 Mar 2018, 1:43 am

Wasn't there a lot of fuss and upset because Bush won the EC and Gore won the popular vote. And then Bush got reelected by winning both.



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29 Mar 2018, 2:02 am

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Wasn't there a lot of fuss and upset because Bush won the EC and Gore won the popular vote. And then Bush got reelected by winning both.


That is correct.
I have a sneaking feeling that Trump - if he hasn't yet been impeached - won't win either next Presidential election.


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29 Mar 2018, 2:31 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Wasn't there a lot of fuss and upset because Bush won the EC and Gore won the popular vote. And then Bush got reelected by winning both.


That is correct.
I have a sneaking feeling that Trump - if he hasn't yet been impeached - won't win either next Presidential election.


What was your feeling about Bush's chance of being reelected around 2002? And what did you think Trump's chances were the first time? I remember clips of John Oliver and Stephen Colbert begging him to run. Seems pretty hard to predict these things.



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29 Mar 2018, 6:06 am

EzraS wrote:
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Wasn't there a lot of fuss and upset because Bush won the EC and Gore won the popular vote. And then Bush got reelected by winning both.


That is correct.
I have a sneaking feeling that Trump - if he hasn't yet been impeached - won't win either next Presidential election.


What was your feeling about Bush's chance of being reelected around 2002? And what did you think Trump's chances were the first time? I remember clips of John Oliver and Stephen Colbert begging him to run. Seems pretty hard to predict these things.


If Bush hadn't have had the dumb luck of becoming a wartime President, with all the patriotic support that entails, he would have been a one termer.


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