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31 Oct 2018, 7:26 pm

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Where’s Klaatu when you need him.


He's still waiting for our answer. Friendly dude that he is, he's been rather patient about that "reducing this Earth of yours to a burned out cinder" thing he mentioned. Or maybe he hasn't. He didn't say how fast we would be reduced to a burned out cinder. Maybe Klaatu is behind global warming. 8)



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31 Oct 2018, 7:27 pm

@Ezra: There are a great many media outlets of all kinds, what's more anyone can self-publish for free online of course. Just Internet sources excluding fox news spew enough vulgar extreme right fantasies to completely drown even the least biased media (let's say Reuters or Twitter/Reddit/what have you); it's about jagged differences in opinion being a speed bump for everyone, not strength in numbers at all. There is a rhetorical race to the bottom for shock value to add weight to partisan fights of any kind.

I for one will be moving into a smaller house at some point in the future, giving up my stick shift for a fast hybrid if not a screaming fast EV, biking more & skiing my a$$ off so as to show others how awesome winter is. I also work on engineering least-cost analysis software that reduces construction fuel costs.


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31 Oct 2018, 7:28 pm

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I only ever vote democrat because they monopolized the green party vote.


Just like they monopolized the media. Which gives a monopoly on a lot of votes.


I don't really care where loyalties must shift in order to have air to breathe.


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31 Oct 2018, 7:38 pm

I'd bet a million dollars all the Y2K hype was about getting votes as well. Especially since Al Gore was running for president.



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31 Oct 2018, 7:40 pm

The U.N. does not care who wins elections, the U.N. cares who those people elect as ambassadors.


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31 Oct 2018, 7:44 pm

Like Y2K, Like Bush's terror level alerts, the whole world needs to be in a panic for it to be effective.



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31 Oct 2018, 7:55 pm

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I only ever vote democrat because they monopolized the green party vote.


Just like they monopolized the media. Which gives a monopoly on a lot of votes.

No; what happened is that the Republican Party has been taken over by crazy peoples, and thus by default more moderate media are now on the side of Democrats.


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31 Oct 2018, 7:57 pm

I'm not saying the whole thing is fake. But I do believe a lot of hype is being injected into it. I believe like other things it's being exploited for political gain.



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31 Oct 2018, 7:58 pm

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Like Y2K, Like Bush's terror level alerts, the whole world needs to be in a panic for it to be effective.


This is a conspiracy theory; the thread is about geophysics. Regardless of how real the conspiracy, it's more fake than the actual planet.


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31 Oct 2018, 7:59 pm

Tollorin wrote:
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I only ever vote democrat because they monopolized the green party vote.


Just like they monopolized the media. Which gives a monopoly on a lot of votes.

No; what happened is that the Republican Party has been taken over by crazy peoples, and thus by default more moderate media are now on the side of Democrats.


Now? Lol.



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31 Oct 2018, 8:06 pm

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I'm not saying the whole thing is fake. But I do believe a lot of hype is being injected into it. I believe like other things it's being exploited for political gain.


Fake news.

Scientists are not politicians. Scientists are sounding the alarm bells to warn us that we f****d up hardcore and have to change our ways very rapidly or be the cause of our own extinction. That is reality. There is nothing political about their message.


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31 Oct 2018, 8:11 pm

cberg wrote:
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Like Y2K, Like Bush's terror level alerts, the whole world needs to be in a panic for it to be effective.


This is a conspiracy theory; the thread is about geophysics. Regardless of how real the conspiracy, it's more fake than the actual planet.


Are you a geophysicist?



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31 Oct 2018, 8:14 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I'm not saying the whole thing is fake. But I do believe a lot of hype is being injected into it. I believe like other things it's being exploited for political gain.


Fake news.

Scientists are not politicians. Scientists are sounding the alarm bells to warn us that we f****d up hardcore and have to change our ways very rapidly or be the cause of our own extinction. That is reality. There is nothing political about their message.


Yet the solution on my end is who I vote for.


My great uncle is 58 and he said he was scared s**tless as a littke hearing about what a nightmare the world was going to be in 20 years. Natural resources would be depleted and the air literally unbreathable and then we were going to have another ice age etc.

Ask members my uncle's age and older what they heard as kids, what the world was supposed to be like by now and even 20 years ago. What a dystopian nightmare we are supposed to be in right now.



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31 Oct 2018, 8:30 pm

EzraS wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
Like Y2K, Like Bush's terror level alerts, the whole world needs to be in a panic for it to be effectivetive.


This is a conspiracy theory; the thread is about geophysics. Regardless of how real the conspiracy, it's more fake than the actual planet.


Are you a geophysicist?


I don't see why not, I work on geodetic models & computational mapping all day, every day. That includes terrestrial positioning, aerial imaging, satellite data, survey drones & Google Earth.

Seeing others talk about the real world as if borders can decide for us what nature will do just makes me sad.


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31 Oct 2018, 8:39 pm

cberg wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cberg wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Like Y2K, Like Bush's terror level alerts, the whole world needs to be in a panic for it to be effectivetive.


This is a conspiracy theory; the thread is about geophysics. Regardless of how real the conspiracy, it's more fake than the actual planet.


Are you a geophysicist?


I don't see why not, I work on geodetic models & computational mapping all day, every day. That includes terrestrial positioning, aerial imaging, satellite data, survey drones & Google Earth.

Seeing others talk about the real world as if borders can decide for us what nature will do just makes me sad.


Sounds interesting. Maybe I should study it in college. Does it pay well?



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31 Oct 2018, 11:55 pm

EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I'm not saying the whole thing is fake. But I do believe a lot of hype is being injected into it. I believe like other things it's being exploited for political gain.


Fake news.

Scientists are not politicians. Scientists are sounding the alarm bells to warn us that we f****d up hardcore and have to change our ways very rapidly or be the cause of our own extinction. That is reality. There is nothing political about their message.


Yet the solution on my end is who I vote for.


My great uncle is 58 and he said he was scared s**tless as a littke hearing about what a nightmare the world was going to be in 20 years. Natural resources would be depleted and the air literally unbreathable and then we were going to have another ice age etc.

Ask members my uncle's age and older what they heard as kids, what the world was supposed to be like by now and even 20 years ago. What a dystopian nightmare we are supposed to be in right now.


Exceptwe know this is really happening now because we have information from all over the world, satellite images, our own personal observations, knowledge that each year’s storms keep getting bigger and stronger.. there’s no ignoring what is actually happening like it’s all just some scare tactic myth.

Are you some sort of climate science/change denier? :?


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