RIP George H.W. Bush, 1924-2018
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Yes his public persona was classy, the complete opposite of Trump, and he did not weasel out of military. So his death does nostalgically remind me of a time gone by and not coming back.
BUT, I highly suspect he knew about and let happen 9/11 and got away with it. While I usually follow the rule of not speaking ill of people even people I think are really bad people in the immediate aftermath of their death this is something I just can’t get over and will be a lingering sore spot until the time of my own death.
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Bart Simpson cartoon/ SNL skits are it?

He was leader during the end of the Cold War (though the winding down started under Reagan), during Gulf War I, and he always emphasized service to others.
I consider him a good president, he would have been better if the economy had been better.
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BUT, I highly suspect he knew about and let happen 9/11 and got away with it. While I usually follow the rule of not speaking ill of people even people I think are really bad people in the immediate aftermath of their death this is something I just can’t get over and will be a lingering sore spot until the time of my own death.
What!! !! ! President George Herbert Walker Bush allowed 9/11 to happen? Considering that his Presidency ended on January 20, 1993 and the attack on the World Trade Center was on September 11, 2001, how could he have possibly allowed the terrorists to attack the World Trade Center? Did he have some advance notice of plans by Al Queda to attack the World Trade Center prior to January 20, 1993 and did nothing about it? Or are you saying that as a private citizen he should have somehow stopped the attack years after the end of his Presidency?
It would be ludicrous enough to claim that President George Walker Bush knew about the attack in advance. That's the kind of paranoid conspiracy theory for which there is no evidence at all. But to blame it on George Herbert Walker Bush is beyond belief.
Edit: After thinking about it for a few minutes, I suspect that you are confusing the father and son. Even then, there is no rational reason to believe that President George W Bush had any knowledge about plans to attack the World Trade Center.
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BUT, I highly suspect he knew about and let happen 9/11 and got away with it. While I usually follow the rule of not speaking ill of people even people I think are really bad people in the immediate aftermath of their death this is something I just can’t get over and will be a lingering sore spot until the time of my own death.
What!! ! ! ! President George Herbert Walker Bush allowed 9/11 to happen? Considering that his Presidency ended on January 20, 1993 and the attack on the World Trade Center was on September 11, 2001, how could he have possibly allowed the terrorists to attack the World Trade Center? Did he have some advance notice of plans by Al Queda to attack the World Trade Center prior to January 20, 1993 and did nothing about it? Or are you saying that as a private citizen he should have somehow stopped the attack years after the end of his Presidency?
It would be ludicrous enough to claim that President George Walker Bush knew about the attack in advance. That's the kind of paranoid conspiracy theory for which there is no evidence at all. But to blame it on George Herbert Walker Bush is beyond belief.
Edit: After thinking about it for a few minutes, I suspect that you are confusing the father and son. Even then, there is no rational reason to believe that President George W Bush had any knowledge about plans to attack the World Trade Center.
Not confusing the father and son. I suspect advance knowledge. The Bush family and Bin Ladin families were partners in the Carlyle Group on 9/11
C for capitalism - The Economist
In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, when no one was being allowed in or out of the United States, many members of the bin Laden family in America were spirited home to Saudi Arabia. The revival of defence spending that followed greatly increased the value of the Carlyle Group's investments in defence companies.
While some former presidents are happy to play golf, others may feel they can still earn a decent living. What rules should govern the commercial activities of former President Bush; or, for that matter, former British prime minister, John Major; or former South Korean prime minister, Park Tae-joon—all of whom have taken the Carlyle nickel? Mr Bush senior receives private intelligence briefings that are not available to ordinary investors. Does his inside knowledge of, and possible influence over, the administration's political strategy towards, say, North Korea and Saudi Arabia directly benefit Carlyle? If so, does that constitute an unacceptable conflict of interest?
Perhaps there would be less reason to worry about Carlyle if there were rival clubs of ex-political heavyweights competing within the iron triangle. Alas, this firm seems to be an aspiring monopolist, hoovering up former public officials from across the political divide and, increasingly, from across the world. It is becoming more ambitious in Europe, and keenly eyeing China. Perhaps there would be less reason to worry if Carlyle's activities were more open—but as a private equity firm, it has largely escaped America's recent efforts to improve the governance and transparency of companies, which is unfortunate.
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The ex-presidents' club - The Guardian
Carlyle has become the thread which indirectly links American military policy in Afghanistan to the personal financial fortunes of its celebrity employees, not least the current president's father. And, until earlier this month, Carlyle provided another curious link to the Afghan crisis: among the firm's multi-million-dollar investors were members of the family of Osama bin Laden.
Last year, George Bush Sr and John Major travelled to Riyadh to talk with senior Saudi businessmen. In September 2000, Carlyle hired speakers including Colin Powell and AOL Time Warner chair Steve Case to address an extravagant party at Washington's Monarch Hotel. Months later, Major joined James Baker for a function at the Lanesborough Hotel in London, to explain the Florida election controversy to the wealthy attendees.
Carlyle partners, who include Baker and the firm's chairman, Frank Carlucci - Ronald Reagan's defence secretary and a former deputy director of the CIA - own stakes that would be worth $180m each if each partner owned an equal slice. As in many areas of its work, though, Carlyle is not obliged to reveal the details, and chooses not to.
But what sets Carlyle apart is the way it has exploited its political contacts. When Carlucci arrived there in 1989, he brought with him a phalanx of former subordinates from the CIA and the Pentagon, and an awareness of the scale of business a company like Carlyle could do in the corridors and steak-houses of Washington. In a decade and a half, the firm has been able to realise a 34% rate of return on its investments, and now claims to be the largest private equity firm in the world. Success brought more investors, including the international financier George Soros and, in 1995, the wealthy Saudi Binladin family, who insist they long ago severed all links with their notorious relative. The first president Bush is understood to have visited the Binladins in Saudi Arabia twice on the firm's behalf.
Bolding mine.
Book World: 'The Bin Ladens' - Washington Post
Steve Coll: The Bin Ladens and George W. Bush had a common business partner during the 1970s. That partner invested money into Bush's oil partnerships but has said in the past that the money he invested was his own and did not come from the Bin Ladens or other Arab investors. (He declined to talk to me about it.) No document or testimony has yet surfaced to contradict him
And there is the matter of the company that provided security for the World Trade Center and United Airlines that had Bush’s son on the Board of Directors until the year before 9/11
Sratesec - Wikipedia
Marvin Bush, son of former US president George H.W. Bush, and brother to former US president George W. Bush, served on the board of directors from 1993 to June 2000.
Note these sources are not infowars. Yes it is a conspiracy theory. I wrote “highly SUSPECT” . But it is not out of pure paranoia. These connections might be all unfortunate coincidences. I don’t believe that. No serious investigation has been made into these connections because because most do not believe the US would attack or purposly allow an attack on its own people especially with the patriotic mood right after 9/11. The Republicans had obvoius motivations not to investigate and the Democrates thought the Repubicans especially Bush Jr. as too dumb to pull something like that off. So it was left to loony conspiracy theorists to make these connections hurting credibilty. Bush Jr. has been out of office almost a decade and Bush Sr. is dead so nobody really cares anymore.
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Start your own thread if you have to vent.
Nope! You do not get to dictate what gets posted in this thread.
No grief police decide what I can say either. Just waiting for Kissinger to kick the bucket

I remember when Jerry Falwell died, Christopher Hitchens was on CNN trashing the POS to this disdain of the other guests. He was fearless!
It's going to a long week listening to the press and the phony liberals heap praise over a man they despised while he was alive. It's one thing to offer condolences to his family, but another thing all together to be hypocrites by praising him.
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"A file photo that was taken in 1944 of Navy pilot Lt. j.g. George H. W. Bush in his Grumman TBF Avenger torpedo bomber. (U.S. Navy photo courtesy of the George Bush Presidential Library and Museum)"
https://strategypage.com/military_photo ... 02030.aspx
Bush rescued after being shot down during WWII
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I definitely remember the puking incident in Japan. It was hyped up to 11 in the US and I couldn't stand it. Being very emetophobic I couldn't think of anything worse happening to someone, and here was the US going about it every 2 freaking minutes!! MAD Magazine also just had to show a graphic image of it on their cover, which I also hated. But I couldn't really tell anyone because my emetophobia was so bad just talking about throwing up would make me terrified.
And then when he appeared in the Simpson's episode, now a former president, and starts feuding with Bart and Homer, he even tells Homer "I'll ruin you like a Japanese banquet." Marge and Barbra Bush, however, where having coffee together and chatting like a couple of old friends. Go figure.
Start your own thread if you have to vent.
Nope! You do not get to dictate what gets posted in this thread.
No grief police decide what I can say either. Just waiting for Kissinger to kick the bucket

I remember when Jerry Falwell died, Christopher Hitchens was on CNN trashing the POS to this disdain of the other guests. He was fearless!
It's going to a long week listening to the press and the phony liberals heap praise over a man they despised while he was alive. It's one thing to offer condolences to his family, but another thing all together to be hypocrites by praising him.
Yep.
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...Grandma image though she had, HW wife Barbara had the repudarion as the real enforcer, the, the ballbuster of the Bush bunch. " She's evil ", Richard Nixon admiringly said about her
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You are a long time WP member and understand that threads getting hijacked are a normal occurrence here and autistic people often do not adhere to social norms such as don't trash people when they just died.
That said I will go back to the original intent.
4 pages and I am surprised this has not been brought up. Bush signed the Americans with Disability Act.
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