18 Feb 2019, 2:05 am
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18 Feb 2019, 2:07 am
goldfish21 wrote:
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No one said no one is allowed to make any changes to adapt to warming. 
All I'm saying is that this isn't an easy punch to roll with and it's going to become an ever more serious problem for literally Billions of people.
All I'm saying is that this isn't an easy punch to roll with and it's going to become an ever more serious problem for literally Billions of people.Do you imagine that suddenly one day it will warm up a couple of degrees and everyone is stuck there?
People will be making their decisions of what they need to do over decades. There may be some temporary hardship in adapting, but they will most likely be better off having done so.
You are delusional if you think this is going to be a calm and orderly process like moving to a house several blocks away. s**t is going to hit the fan and the world is going to experience the largest mass migration of humans ever, and that's going to result in absolute chaos in the countries bordering uninhabitable regions. There will very likely be conflicts/wars over this.
The delusion is in your panic over changes.
The temperatures we will be likely to see by the end of the century are similar to what we had 10,000 years ago during the Holocene Climatic Optimum. Instead of being a disaster, it made civilization possible. It could not have been better for us.
20 years ago, I was concerned about Global Warming like you are now. Then I started asking questions and found out that the panic about it is nothing more than a stack of cards. My first question was whether it had ever been that warm before. Surprisingly, the temperatures we have now are among the cold times for this planet. Warmer is more natural, not cooler.
We are in an ice age right now. This is a warm interglacial period in this ice age. When the next interglacial period begins is when we will see real disaster. Starvation and death by starvation will be the norm.
The panic about Global Warming doesn't hold up at all to close inspection.
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18 Feb 2019, 2:09 am
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18 Feb 2019, 2:19 am
Nothing you have posted compels me to take your word for it vs. 97% of climate scientists worldwide.
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18 Feb 2019, 12:23 pm
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Nothing you have posted compels me to take your word for it vs. 97% of climate scientists worldwide.
When your argument won't hold up on its own, appeal to authority.
All he has to do is make a sound scientific argument with more compelling evidence than anyone else has presented. He hasn't done so.
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18 Feb 2019, 12:25 pm
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Warmer moister air also means more disastrous hurricane seasons. Are those going to be "easy to adapt to"? I think it more likely to cause the US millions and millions more dollars in damages along the coasts each year. But I guess everyone can just move away from the coasts and migrate to middle America. I'm sure that will go great with no complications.
Climate change is making hurricanes even more destructive, research finds
Climate change is making hurricanes even more destructive, research finds
That is not necessarily true. Some research at MIT suggests that Global Warming will decrease the incidence of serious hurricanes.
We haven't been having all that many hurricanes lately, have we?
Yes, the research shows that there may be fewer storms per hurricane season, but the storms will likely have higher rainfalls and stronger winds and therefore do much more damage. What good is having fewer storms if the ones you do have do so much more damage?
kara, with science & reality deniers you may as well be talking to a stump. It won't do any good to point out all of the $ Billion+ damage plus storms we've seen around the world in just the last year or two. People like that could get hit with a Tsunami and still deny that weather patterns are changing drastically for the worse. I think. Who knows? Maybe he will get slapped with a rogue wave and it'll knock some sense of what's really happening into him.
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18 Feb 2019, 12:43 pm
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Nothing you have posted compels me to take your word for it vs. 97% of climate scientists worldwide.
When your argument won't hold up on its own, appeal to authority.
All he has to do is make a sound scientific argument with more compelling evidence than anyone else has presented. He hasn't done so.
If you say so.
I do, indeed.
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goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Nothing you have posted compels me to take your word for it vs. 97% of climate scientists worldwide.
When your argument won't hold up on its own, appeal to authority.
All he has to do is make a sound scientific argument with more compelling evidence than anyone else has presented. He hasn't done so.
If you say so.
I do, indeed.
If this were a contest to see who could give the most anecdotal scientific argument you'd be winning hands down.
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18 Feb 2019, 12:52 pm
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Nothing you have posted compels me to take your word for it vs. 97% of climate scientists worldwide.
When your argument won't hold up on its own, appeal to authority.
All he has to do is make a sound scientific argument with more compelling evidence than anyone else has presented. He hasn't done so.
If you say so.
I do, indeed.
If this were a contest to see who could give the most anecdotal scientific argument you'd be winning hands down.
I didn't make a scientific argument. I said I believe the vast majority of experts in this field vs. one guy who says he doesn't agree with them.
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goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Nothing you have posted compels me to take your word for it vs. 97% of climate scientists worldwide.
When your argument won't hold up on its own, appeal to authority.
All he has to do is make a sound scientific argument with more compelling evidence than anyone else has presented. He hasn't done so.
If you say so.
I do, indeed.
If this were a contest to see who could give the most anecdotal scientific argument you'd be winning hands down.
I didn't make a scientific argument. I said I believe the vast majority of experts in this field vs. one guy who says he doesn't agree with them.
So you're saying you and kokopelli haven't been arguing scientific matters? Seriously? And your argument with him has been in your own words and it was mostly anecdotal. As you continued to falter, you made and appeal to authority.
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18 Feb 2019, 1:40 pm
The entire time I've deferred to the experts in their field, not my own scientific studies. kokopelli says he disagrees with climate scientists around the world, but hasn't made compelling statements as to why he's correct and almost everyone else in the world is wrong.
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18 Feb 2019, 2:12 pm
Look again.
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