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15 Feb 2019, 9:34 pm

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The public won't stand for it. They didn't care about it anyway but if the hoax keeps dragging on they will show their frustration.

The hoax is the Trump campaign pretending they didn't conspire with the Russians to break US campaign law.


There doesn't seem to be any proof of that after two years of wasting tax payers money, does there? Unless you've got some information that nobody else on the planet has.

They've got Roger Stone's communications with Wikileaks. And Manafort had a 'secret' meeting with Kilimnik to trade polling data in exchange for a Ukrainian peace plan. Mueller is closing in on these criminals.



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15 Feb 2019, 9:45 pm

AspE wrote:
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The public won't stand for it. They didn't care about it anyway but if the hoax keeps dragging on they will show their frustration.

The hoax is the Trump campaign pretending they didn't conspire with the Russians to break US campaign law.


There doesn't seem to be any proof of that after two years of wasting tax payers money, does there? Unless you've got some information that nobody else on the planet has.

They've got Roger Stone's communications with Wikileaks. And Manafort had a 'secret' meeting with Kilimnik to trade polling data in exchange for a Ukrainian peace plan. Mueller is closing in on these criminals.



We'll see, won't we? In the meantime, how about focusing on reality. The Democrats paved the way for a Trump presidency by embracing neoliberalism, and throwing the American people under the bus since the Clinton administration. But nahhhh, you don't want to talk about that! It's all Russia's fault! Heh!


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15 Feb 2019, 9:49 pm

I'm seeing the Republicans embrace deregulation, and the Democratic Party's left wing trying to re-regulate. Campaign finance reform and lobbying reform would considerably reduce the influence of big money in politics. I have zero hope that the Republicans will even think about such things. But we can't talk about policies when the criminals are in charge.



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15 Feb 2019, 10:00 pm

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I'm seeing the Republicans embrace deregulation, and the Democratic Party's left wing trying to re-regulate. Campaign finance reform and lobbying reform would considerably reduce the influence of big money in politics. I have zero hope that the Republicans will even think about such things. But we can't talk about policies when the criminals are in charge.



The criminals are always in charge. Bill Clinton presided over a massive deregulation of Wall Street. The Democratic left-wing has no power! They shut down anyone in their party with progressive ideas. Bernie Sanders ring a bell?


The only we have to reform the system is going to come from Independents and third-party candidates.


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16 Feb 2019, 11:35 am

AspE wrote:
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AspE wrote:
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The public won't stand for it. They didn't care about it anyway but if the hoax keeps dragging on they will show their frustration.

The hoax is the Trump campaign pretending they didn't conspire with the Russians to break US campaign law.


There doesn't seem to be any proof of that after two years of wasting tax payers money, does there? Unless you've got some information that nobody else on the planet has.

They've got Roger Stone's communications with Wikileaks. And Manafort had a 'secret' meeting with Kilimnik to trade polling data in exchange for a Ukrainian peace plan. Mueller is closing in on these criminals.


The Stone conspiracy theory is a joke and Ukraine isn't Russian Collusion. The whole thing is a dud.


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16 Feb 2019, 11:47 am

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The Democratic left-wing has no power!

And you are doing a good job of keeping it that way.



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16 Feb 2019, 11:47 am

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The Stone conspiracy theory is a joke and Ukraine isn't Russian Collusion. The whole thing is a dud.

Manafort is going to prison for at least 20 years.



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16 Feb 2019, 12:13 pm

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The Democratic left-wing has no power!

And you are doing a good job of keeping it that way.



That's amusing coming from someone who walks lockstep with the propaganda being spewed daily from the MSM.


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16 Feb 2019, 1:00 pm

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The Stone conspiracy theory is a joke and Ukraine isn't Russian Collusion. The whole thing is a dud.

Manafort is going to prison for at least 20 years.


For what? Do you still believe he met Assange?


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16 Feb 2019, 1:08 pm

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That's amusing coming from someone who walks lockstep with the propaganda being spewed daily from the MSM.

There is no one line of propaganda, since many of your white wing views are parroted in the MSM. Fringe media is just as propaganda filled and less fact checked. In the end, you still have to vote. Or start a revolution. Either way. I'd rather vote.



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16 Feb 2019, 1:27 pm

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That's amusing coming from someone who walks lockstep with the propaganda being spewed daily from the MSM.

There is no one line of propaganda, since many of your white wing views are parroted in the MSM. Fringe media is just as propaganda filled and less fact checked. In the end, you still have to vote. Or start a revolution. Either way. I'd rather vote.


"White Wing Views?" Please define that term and point out where I have ever expressed any such views.


Actually, there is one line of propaganda that is propagated through all MSM outlets, primarily because they are all owned by a handful of corporations with interests in all the big corporations that have bought and paid for our government. You won't hear any anti-war voices on MSNBC.


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16 Feb 2019, 2:26 pm

To be fair you do hear anti war voices on MSNBC... And then they get fired. The mainstream media wasn't 'fact checking' in the lead up to Iraq, Libya or Syria. Only those who are now in the alternative media got it right.


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16 Feb 2019, 2:27 pm

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"White Wing Views?" Please define that term and point out where I have ever expressed any such views.

Whoops, Freudian slip. :wink:



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16 Feb 2019, 2:34 pm

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To be fair you do hear anti war voices on MSNBC... And then they get fired. The mainstream media wasn't 'fact checking' in the lead up to Iraq, Libya or Syria. Only those who are now in the alternative media got it right.


Yeah, but it's been fifteen years. Phil Donahue for fired in 2003 for opposing the Iraq war. Jessie Ventura was signed up do a show at the same time, but they bought out his contract before he ever appeared because he opposed the Iraq War.


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16 Feb 2019, 3:40 pm

Sickening.


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17 Feb 2019, 2:26 pm

AspE wrote:
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The public won't stand for it. They didn't care about it anyway but if the hoax keeps dragging on they will show their frustration.

The hoax is the Trump campaign pretending they didn't conspire with the Russians to break US campaign law.



It's funny that so many on the left are doubling down on a conspiracy theory with no supporting evidence, while completing ignoring the rigging of the Democratic primaries, for which there is overwhelming evidence.


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