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25 Mar 2019, 12:01 pm

From the sound of it, it did not conclude that he hasn't either. That said even if it was found he did not collude with Russia...that wouldn't mean he hasn't committed crimes. I mean everyone knows he's a crook and has committed financial crimes at the very least.

Anyone who thinks he's always been a model citizen, abiding by all the laws...paying his taxes like a good citizen and all that is an idiot, in my opinion. I mean he's never even tried to hide that he's a crook, if anything he's bragged about it. I want to see his tax returns...in fact every person running for a higher government office should have to submit their tax returns for the public to see. Because people who can't even pay their taxes shouldn't hold political office.


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25 Mar 2019, 2:03 pm

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Anti-climactic to be sure, but neither is Trump exonerated. Elijah Cummings is demanding transcripts for encrypted messages between the White House and the Kremlin.
At the very least, all the convictions Mueller's gotten demonstrates how Trump hardly chooses "the best people."


Funny how I have just been watching CNN have a meltdown and they have been saying these exact sorry words. The hoax is over. CNN has been lying to you for 3 years. You have said endless times that Mueller would get Trump on collusion. Stop backpeddling and admit you were wrong. Learn from this and get away from CNN.


The report in fact stated that Trump was in no way exonerated.
A clear connection to the Russian troll farms was not found, but the Trump Tower meeting with covert Russian agents, as well as the illegal and unofficial encrypted White House/Kremlin line, are undeniable.
If I don't watch CNN, am I supposed to watch Russian TV, which is blatantly not just hostile to my country, but seeks to harm it?


Sorry, you're not going to wriggle out of this. You clearly said that Mueller will find the evidence that proves collusion. YOU WERE WRONG. CNN and all the usual suspects have been pushing this hoax for years. THEY WERE LYING. They aren't going to just say that. They are making out like there just wasn't enough evidence but yeah it still probably happened. It's B.S. People don't start guilty and have to prove their innocence.
That's B.S too. The whole thing is a crock and it's very undeniable because it's garbage.
Watch both I'd say. Russia is capable of no such thing.


There are - I believe - 17 separate investigations into Trump still going on. At the very least, they're going to demonstrate how Trump is the most corrupt man ever to sit in the White House.
The Mueller report in fact states there was clear Russian interference in our election, that they were the guilty party who had hacked Clinton's emails, and that they had passed said emails onto Wikileaks who then leaked them on Russia's behalf. What was that you had been saying about the Russians having no involvement in the Clinton hacking scandal? Or that Wikileaks as an organization is not an agent of Russia?


Good luck with that. Na, every US President has been just as corrupt. But let's stop moving the goalposts. This whole hoax started over 'collusion'.
That's already been debunked by Ray McGovern and two ex NSA chief executives. The DNC emails were leaked not hacked, that's proven. Mueller is a proven liar and had to repeat the hack conspiracy theories but there was no way to falsify collusion because it involved purely human beings. Wikileaks has leaked thousands of files about Kremlin corruption so unlucky.
What was it you said about Mueller proving collusion? No point in wasting my time with people who cannot admit they were wrong.

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25 Mar 2019, 2:05 pm

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From the sound of it, it did not conclude that he hasn't either. That said even if it was found he did not collude with Russia...that wouldn't mean he hasn't committed crimes. I mean everyone knows he's a crook and has committed financial crimes at the very least.

Anyone who thinks he's always been a model citizen, abiding by all the laws...paying his taxes like a good citizen and all that is an idiot, in my opinion. I mean he's never even tried to hide that he's a crook, if anything he's bragged about it. I want to see his tax returns...in fact every person running for a higher government office should have to submit their tax returns for the public to see. Because people who can't even pay their taxes shouldn't hold political office.


Maybe pigs can fly too eh? I mean we haven't conclusive proof they can't.

No one really cares. Most Americans care about policies and the Democrats obsession with Trump will most likely get him four more years.


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25 Mar 2019, 2:12 pm

So Trump is excused for anything because no one really cares anyway? That doesn't seem legal.


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25 Mar 2019, 2:23 pm

If you want to get rid of him then support a decent Democrat candidate and beat him democratically.


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25 Mar 2019, 2:25 pm

You say that as if the electoral college wouldn't stop me.


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25 Mar 2019, 2:25 pm

Yes ten times over. A lot of senior Obama officials should be in jail.

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25 Mar 2019, 4:59 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
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Anti-climactic to be sure, but neither is Trump exonerated. Elijah Cummings is demanding transcripts for encrypted messages between the White House and the Kremlin.
At the very least, all the convictions Mueller's gotten demonstrates how Trump hardly chooses "the best people."


Funny how I have just been watching CNN have a meltdown and they have been saying these exact sorry words. The hoax is over. CNN has been lying to you for 3 years. You have said endless times that Mueller would get Trump on collusion. Stop backpeddling and admit you were wrong. Learn from this and get away from CNN.

Could conservatives at least admit to have been wrong about Benghazi?


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25 Mar 2019, 5:11 pm

Tollorin wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Anti-climactic to be sure, but neither is Trump exonerated. Elijah Cummings is demanding transcripts for encrypted messages between the White House and the Kremlin.
At the very least, all the convictions Mueller's gotten demonstrates how Trump hardly chooses "the best people."


Funny how I have just been watching CNN have a meltdown and they have been saying these exact sorry words. The hoax is over. CNN has been lying to you for 3 years. You have said endless times that Mueller would get Trump on collusion. Stop backpeddling and admit you were wrong. Learn from this and get away from CNN.

Could conservatives at least admit to have being wrong about Benghazi.


That’s never going to happen. Both sides are so entrenched in their views that there will never more be bipartisanship.



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25 Mar 2019, 5:12 pm

I don't think the media is your real enemy considering all the Twitter screen apps you post.


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25 Mar 2019, 5:38 pm

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From the sound of it, it did not conclude that he hasn't either. That said even if it was found he did not collude with Russia...that wouldn't mean he hasn't committed crimes. I mean everyone knows he's a crook and has committed financial crimes at the very least.

Anyone who thinks he's always been a model citizen, abiding by all the laws...paying his taxes like a good citizen and all that is an idiot, in my opinion. I mean he's never even tried to hide that he's a crook, if anything he's bragged about it. I want to see his tax returns...in fact every person running for a higher government office should have to submit their tax returns for the public to see. Because people who can't even pay their taxes shouldn't hold political office.



No doubt it would be good to prove that our president is a crook. The problem I see is I seriously doubt that any president wasn't a crook, I mean, isn't that the standard practice of politics? It was be nice if all politicians started getting popped for crimes they committed, the problem is they will not. This is a dirty sniping trick, a bunch of crooks insisting one crook gets investigated because he doesn't mesh well with there clit. Basically he is the crook that wasn't in line with all the other crooks so he gets investigated. That is the biggest reason people voted for him, because all the other crooks didn’t like him, thus he must be against the crooked scheme they have going? I wish there was a major politician I trusted, sadly there isn't. Someone told me this before, after Trump I wonder if it will go back to normal? What they said is keep your eye on who Goldman Sachs donates the most money to, that will be the next president. It's really sad, I think Trump is the only president that that won in a long time that didn't receive a lot of money from Goldman Sachs. Is that true? If so, why would people be gear to let the normal corruption continue? You know, the level of corruption that never seems to help anyone?? From what I have heard, Trump seems to be doing some things to actually help the country, has anyone else done anything?



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25 Mar 2019, 5:45 pm

What has he done to help the country?

I believe we are fortunate that the tariffs haven't kicked us in the butt yet.

I find it troublesome that he sees the press as "the enemy." Reminds me of Big Brother, sort of.



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25 Mar 2019, 6:04 pm

Tollorin wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
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Anti-climactic to be sure, but neither is Trump exonerated. Elijah Cummings is demanding transcripts for encrypted messages between the White House and the Kremlin.
At the very least, all the convictions Mueller's gotten demonstrates how Trump hardly chooses "the best people."


Funny how I have just been watching CNN have a meltdown and they have been saying these exact sorry words. The hoax is over. CNN has been lying to you for 3 years. You have said endless times that Mueller would get Trump on collusion. Stop backpeddling and admit you were wrong. Learn from this and get away from CNN.

Could conservatives at least admit to have been wrong about Benghazi?


They were hysterical about it, and just used it as a political hammer, and wouldn't have cared had it been the other way round, it was bad what happened though. Nothing compared to liberals comparing Russian troll farms to Pearl Harbour and 9/11.


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25 Mar 2019, 6:05 pm

The mainstream media is the enemy of the people.


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25 Mar 2019, 6:14 pm

The Democrats have been doing Putin's bidding, undermining American society, for a long time.

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25 Mar 2019, 6:18 pm

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What has he done to help the country?

I believe we are fortunate that the tariffs haven't kicked us in the butt yet.

I find it troublesome that he sees the press as "the enemy." Reminds me of Big Brother, sort of.

My mom knows of things, Tim Pool has said some things Trump has done that is good, I have heard of others who said some positive things, and that's exactly my point. People are so busy falling for left wing media crap that they pay absolutely no attention to the positive things he does. Left wing media is an enemy of the people, they wish to divide us and they seem to be doing a pretty good job.

People are too busy hating Trump to be bothered with anything he does that is positive for the country. Like the, hell, I'm on my phone and can't figure out how to spell it...infanstructure* deal, buy American, hire american. To reduce the amount of cheap steel being dumped into our economy by china, because American companies cannot compete with slave labor wages.



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