These Stores Don't Want You to Bring Your Gun, Now
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There's a big difference between a gun which shoots one bullet at a time----and semi/automatic weapons which use cartridges which fire many bullets.
That's why possession of an unlicensed rifle in NY State is a misdemeanor----and possession of an unlicensed handgun is a felony.
Please note that I'm not fanatical about TAKING AWAY A PERSON'S GUNS. I would just rather civilians not have assault, automatic or semiautomatic weapons.
Ultimately the layout of the gun is a bigger deal than if it's self-loading. A pump-action carbine with an inline stock, short barrel and a large capacity detachable box magazine is more suitable for committing a mass killing than a long-barrelled semi-auto with a small capacity internal magazine and a more traditional stock.
Some of the items used as part of the old 'assault weapons' ban were silly, a flash suppressor and bayonet lugs don't make a gun substantially more suitable for a mass shooting, but an inline stock and detachable box magazine sure do.
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funeralxempire
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I have responses to a lot of what you said, but since you said you won't comment anymore there's no point in me answering you.
Though if someone else, be they for or against stricter gun control, wants to hear my opinions on things then do ask and I'll answer.
I'd love to hear what you have to say.
Sure. I'd just like to say first that I don't support a complete gun ban, just stricter gun control. In fact, in rural areas (rural for real with woods, fields, wasteland and such, not simply small towns) they can really be necessary because of animals.
I think it'd be for the best to have strict psychological evaluation for everyone who wants to buy a gun before they can do that. Or if not for all guns, then the more dangerous ones at least. I know that some people can pretend to be perfectly sane despite not being so and they could pass it anyway, but I'm sure that there are also many not so stable people who wouldn't be able to get a gun because of it.
Also, I think it'd be better to make the rules of who gets to sell guns stricter. Maybe even make it so that a private person wouldn't be allowed to sell their own guns to other people but that they'd always have to be sold to a licensed gun store when the owner wants to get rid of them. That way it'd be easier to keep track of who has what guns, for they'd always have to be registered, too. Of course, some people would still sell theirs illegally, but the amount of the people who'd sell theirs to questionable people would be lower. I think this would also directly lessen the amounts of crimes, for those who have the need to get a gun illegally are more likely to commit crimes with it and this would make getting one harder.
There are also lot of cases where a child gets their hands on a gun and accidents happen, right? I don't know what kind of punishments the owners of those guns get for not storing them properly, but I really hope they're strict ones. Also, I think that for these reasons it'd be for the best if everyone who bought a gun had to take some kind of course about safe handling and storing of a gun. Maybe there could even be a test and if you can't pass it, you can't buy a gun.
Of course, the best thing would be to get rid of the root of the problems, as in find a way to get help to those who do mass killings before they do them, but as long as that's not sorted out, rules like this could slow down at least some of them.
Most of that sounds like common sense.
Also, I'd be very surprised if anyone of us favour full-on bans. That's just the strawman gun-nuts trot out because they can't challenge the more reasonable positions actually being discussed.
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
There's a big difference between a gun which shoots one bullet at a time----and semi/automatic weapons which use cartridges which fire many bullets.
That's why possession of an unlicensed rifle in NY State is a misdemeanor----and possession of an unlicensed handgun is a felony.
Please note that I'm not fanatical about TAKING AWAY A PERSON'S GUNS. I would just rather civilians not have assault, automatic or semiautomatic weapons.
There you go falling for the lies and proganda
Simi auto guns fire one bullet at a time and include 99% of handguns and most rifles.
There’s no cartridge that fires multiple bullets.
No you just want to ban 99% of guns you’re not fanatic


There’s no such thing as an assault weapon it’s made up term for “that gun looks scary”
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I am so tired of the myth that private home arsenals are keeping us safer. What's even more ridiculous is that these noodle brained fetishests feel that they alone are protecting the US from being a crooked military dictatorship (as if we're not already an ultra violent oligarchy).
Rebels with guns TOTALLY have a GREAT shot at overthrowing the largest military industrial complex the earth has ever known. The whiskey rebellion and the civil war went so well for the fringe minority in those conflicts. If the gun nuts want to try that again, I say go for it.
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