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11 Oct 2019, 12:33 pm

^^^ except I think these conditions have already happened in the past, that is how the we know the history.

I'm not saying that there won't be actual crimes involved, I'm just saying it is a bit more than that.


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11 Oct 2019, 12:36 pm

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^^^ except I think these conditions have already happened in the past, that is how the we know the history.

I'm not saying that there won't be actual crimes involved, I'm just saying it is a bit more than that.
You may be right,Clinton the crime was purgery.I have no idea why Andrew johnson was impeached,it could have been non criminal


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11 Oct 2019, 12:49 pm

In any case, it makes for interesting times. :D


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11 Oct 2019, 1:08 pm

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Apparently, they liked the prestige of being associated with Giuliani and TRUMP.

Apparently, the publicity helped them in business dealings.


Real business is not about publicity, you're confusing it with chauvinism. Corrupt power does a lot for people in the shot term only.


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11 Oct 2019, 2:38 pm

The former US ambassador to Ukraine,Marie Yovanovitch testified behind closed doors today as part of an impeachment inquiry,giving critical information about her time in the Ukraine and abrupt removal earlier this year.

Yovanovitch also rebuked the two associates of Rudy Giuliani who were arrested this week and were tied to her removal.

CNN Politics read the whole article its good.


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11 Oct 2019, 4:29 pm

EzraS wrote:
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I'm just saying it is unknown what the outcome of Nixon's impeachment would have been.
All one can do is speculate.
So there is no point in comparing Trump getting impeached to Nixon not getting impeached.


Nixon feared the worst, and so resigned. I suspect that might be the route Trump will take.


So you think Nixon and Trump are of the same temperament?


Nixon was extremely intelligent and thoughtful, but was plagued was extreme paranoia. Trump lacks that intelligence and self awareness (though he thinks he has that), and has a scattergun thought process, along with paranoia on top of that.


If Trump was impeached and convicted couldn't he be pardoned by Pence?
Nixon was pardoned by Ford a month after he resigned.
I'm sure he knew Ford could pardon him, so I don't see what he had to fear.
He said he was resigning for the good of the nation.


And Ford knew already that he had lost the next Presidential election because of that pardon. Pence can do what he wants, but his dreams of sitting in the White House will be short lived.


Does Pence have dreams of sitting in the White House? Did he or Ford ever run for president before they were VP?


Yes, Pence does. After the crotch grabbing bragging with Billy Bush came out, Pence approached the RNC and told them that he should replace Trump at the head of the ticket, or face defeat.
It's been said Pence has had Presidential aspirations for years, so he can make America a vanilla, sexless landscape that he did to Indiana as governor.


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