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20 Oct 2019, 3:00 am

Good. This is what gun laws should be used for, to keep them out of the hands of potential domestic terrorists.


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20 Oct 2019, 3:52 am

I haven’t heard of neo nazis killing people either,
A toga and blm have nearly killed a lot of people. So it’s fine if someone’s nearly killed I guess. It’s only matter of time before someone’s killed
Oh wait a blm guy killed two cops.

You guys are a so annoying to me. You have no compassion to the victims of antfia and blm. Let’s see how you’d feel if someone nearly beat you to death. Pretty sure you’d want them arrested and put in prison. The people antics have assaulted and nearly killed don’t see them as the angels you do, to them their w terrorist organization, and they’ve won as peope are terrified to go near them. You won’t catch ,e in downtown Portland. I don’t want to be beat to death by antfia mob.

If it was trump supports dressing and black attacking people in the streets you’d all be throwing a fit demanding they be labeled terriers and locked up.you would t be saying well they haven’t killed s gone yet only nearly killed hundreds of people so it’s ok.

Also you don’t have to kill people to be terrorist.

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims

Describes antfia and blm.


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20 Oct 2019, 6:22 am

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The point is that white people are not the only ones who have stockpiles of guns. And are not the only ones who pose a threat to the safety and well being of the public. I get the feeling that you didn't take 5 minutes to watch the videos I posted and didn't really absorb what I said.


What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I don't think Kraichie or I are going to object to gangs being targeted by new laws so long as "white gangs" that have been allowed to operate in many southern US states with complicity of police and local politicians are also targeted.

For example the white protestors trying to support the redneck couple (although the man looks like George Zimmerman) obviously think there's nothing wrong with threatening black toddlers with high powered rifles (I notice you carefully avoided the couple's crime and tried to counter it with videos of black people doing bad things). That should send an immediate signal to the police that these characters are likely to also be armed to the teeth and are likely to use their weapons to intimidate or worse.



The couple's crime was discussed in the video. You are trying to split hairs. Little kids have been killed by brown and black gang members in drive by shootings gone wrong. Can you top that? (rhetorical) What I am saying isn't about trying to have some kind of contest as to which group/gang/organization of thugs be they brown, black or white cause the most damage. The point is dangerous gun wielding groups are not limited to white people.



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20 Oct 2019, 6:28 am

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I still have not heard of antifa or BLM killing anyone, I don't agree with violently rioting in the streets...but so far its the neo-nazis who have actually killed people.


The Trumpfans aren't going to acknowledge the glaringly obvious because it doesn't fit their narrative.


Pot and kettle.



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20 Oct 2019, 7:47 pm

EzraS wrote:
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GOOD! Insane, hateful people have no business with guns! Makes me proud to be a resident of Washington state.
Now let's see how many angry responses I rack up.


Heck! how did you guess the usual folks would use this legitimate use of the law (to actually protect the innocent members public from a potential mass murderer) as an excuse to;
1, attack the government impinging on freedom to carry around guns &
2. try and draw parallels to BLM and Antifa (or any left wing SJWs) as some type of bogey equivalent to mass murdering right wingers.

Any left wing SJW group evert threaten the hair of a conservative right winger....nope....

The minds of those who espouse the values of right wing gun nuts is a scary place. Dylan Roof types who look for people to kill who can't defend themselves are common.

Little black children having a birthday party are at risk from these cowards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L4HpNJHqlQ

The scum couple have children of their own which means they have zero empathy for non-white humans

There's more dangerous "human critters" lurking around that need to be arrested but allowed to walk free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pftPI0CyzlA

Lets hope the Red flag laws arrest more of these types before there's another mass shooting of children


That white couple were convicted under a law designed to deal with street gang violence. And lets face it, there aren't that many whites who belong to street gangs.

It is a two way street. There are plenty of incidences of black people committing hate crimes against white people. Plenty of black and brown people running around with guns. Making it out to only be a white people problem is misleading.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpkPN90FvsY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5QmMcNnqdo


Who cares if the law's targeted against street gangs? The couple in question threatened children at a birthday party while driving in a reactionary, Neo-Confederate, Civil War revisionist caravan. Such a group certainly means no good will to blacks or any racial minority. So, yes, they were dangerous as any street gang.


The point is that white people are not the only ones who have stockpiles of guns. And are not the only ones who pose a threat to the safety and well being of the public. I get the feeling that you didn't take 5 minutes to watch the videos I posted and didn't really absorb what I said.


Nobody ever said whites were the only ones who threaten the lives of others with firearms. That law, I'm sure, has been used to crack down on street gangs, as was its intent.
Why do you feel you need to make a statement in favor of the offending couple?


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20 Oct 2019, 7:51 pm

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I haven’t heard of neo nazis killing people either,
A toga and blm have nearly killed a lot of people. So it’s fine if someone’s nearly killed I guess. It’s only matter of time before someone’s killed
Oh wait a blm guy killed two cops.

You guys are a so annoying to me. You have no compassion to the victims of antfia and blm. Let’s see how you’d feel if someone nearly beat you to death. Pretty sure you’d want them arrested and put in prison. The people antics have assaulted and nearly killed don’t see them as the angels you do, to them their w terrorist organization, and they’ve won as peope are terrified to go near them. You won’t catch ,e in downtown Portland. I don’t want to be beat to death by antfia mob.

If it was trump supports dressing and black attacking people in the streets you’d all be throwing a fit demanding they be labeled terriers and locked up.you would t be saying well they haven’t killed s gone yet only nearly killed hundreds of people so it’s ok.

Also you don’t have to kill people to be terrorist.

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims

Describes antfia and blm.


You haven't heard of Neo-Nazis killing anyone?!?! Are you f*cking serious?!?!?!
If you don't like the sharp tone I take with you from time to time, then perhaps you should reevaluate statements you write before posting them.


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20 Oct 2019, 8:01 pm

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Nobody ever said whites were the only ones who threaten the lives of others with firearms. That law, I'm sure, has been used to crack down on street gangs, as was its intent.
Why do you feel you need to make a statement in favor of the offending couple?


Yes but all I ever seem to hear about is how whitie with all his guns is out to get you.

I'm not speaking in favor of the scumbag couple. What's the problem for you and cyberdad? I didn't make an obligatory rant? Scumbag racist child abusing worthless piece of s**t a**holes may they burn in hell. That good enough for you two?



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20 Oct 2019, 8:02 pm

EzraS wrote:
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Nobody ever said whites were the only ones who threaten the lives of others with firearms. That law, I'm sure, has been used to crack down on street gangs, as was its intent.
Why do you feel you need to make a statement in favor of the offending couple?


Yes but all I ever seem to hear about is how whitie with all his guns is out to get you.

I'm not speaking in favor of the scumbag couple. What's the problem for you and cyberdad? I didn't make an obligatory rant? Scumbag racist child abusing scumbag a**holes may they burn in hell. That good enough for you two?


Perfectly. :lol:


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20 Oct 2019, 8:05 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Nobody ever said whites were the only ones who threaten the lives of others with firearms. That law, I'm sure, has been used to crack down on street gangs, as was its intent.
Why do you feel you need to make a statement in favor of the offending couple?


Yes but all I ever seem to hear about is how whitie with all his guns is out to get you.

I'm not speaking in favor of the scumbag couple. What's the problem for you and cyberdad? I didn't make an obligatory rant? Scumbag racist child abusing scumbag a**holes may they burn in hell. That good enough for you two?


Perfectly. :lol:


You and your clone should realize it's not always necessary to state the obvious. And just because someone doesn't launch into your style of hyperbole, it doesn't mean they are defending or supporting anything or anyone.



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20 Oct 2019, 8:31 pm

EzraS wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
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Nobody ever said whites were the only ones who threaten the lives of others with firearms. That law, I'm sure, has been used to crack down on street gangs, as was its intent.
Why do you feel you need to make a statement in favor of the offending couple?


Yes but all I ever seem to hear about is how whitie with all his guns is out to get you.

I'm not speaking in favor of the scumbag couple. What's the problem for you and cyberdad? I didn't make an obligatory rant? Scumbag racist child abusing scumbag a**holes may they burn in hell. That good enough for you two?


Perfectly. :lol:


You and your clone should realize it's not always necessary to state the obvious. And just because someone doesn't launch into your style of hyperbole, it doesn't mean they are defending or supporting anything or anyone.


Well, from my perspective it had seemed as if you were. I apologize if I misconstrued what you posted.


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20 Oct 2019, 9:47 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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I haven’t heard of neo nazis killing people either,
A toga and blm have nearly killed a lot of people. So it’s fine if someone’s nearly killed I guess. It’s only matter of time before someone’s killed
Oh wait a blm guy killed two cops.

You guys are a so annoying to me. You have no compassion to the victims of antfia and blm. Let’s see how you’d feel if someone nearly beat you to death. Pretty sure you’d want them arrested and put in prison. The people antics have assaulted and nearly killed don’t see them as the angels you do, to them their w terrorist organization, and they’ve won as peope are terrified to go near them. You won’t catch ,e in downtown Portland. I don’t want to be beat to death by antfia mob.

If it was trump supports dressing and black attacking people in the streets you’d all be throwing a fit demanding they be labeled terriers and locked up.you would t be saying well they haven’t killed s gone yet only nearly killed hundreds of people so it’s ok.

Also you don’t have to kill people to be terrorist.

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims

Describes antfia and blm.


You haven't heard of Neo-Nazis killing anyone?!?! Are you f*cking serious?!?!?!
If you don't like the sharp tone I take with you from time to time, then perhaps you should reevaluate statements you write before posting them.


How many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis?



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21 Oct 2019, 12:43 am

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How many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis?

Is this a rhetorical question or are you trying to prove something?

In the US the death toll from right wing murders is conservatively 111 individuals according to this list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

It doesn't include the untold thousands of black Americans lynched and murdered after the end of the civil war also
- 55 people killed by Brendon Tarrant in NZ
- 70 people killed by Anders Brevik
- 168 people killed by Timothy McVeigh



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21 Oct 2019, 12:45 am

EzraS wrote:
I'm not speaking in favor of the scumbag couple. What's the problem for you and cyberdad? I didn't make an obligatory rant? Scumbag racist child abusing worthless piece of s**t a**holes may they burn in hell. That good enough for you two?


You are in the habit of carefully sidestepping around right wing crimes and focusing only on left wing conspiracies



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21 Oct 2019, 1:01 am

cyberdad wrote:
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How many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis?

Is this a rhetorical question or are you trying to prove something?

In the US the death toll from right wing murders is conservatively 111 individuals according to this list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

It doesn't include the untold thousands of black Americans lynched and murdered after the end of the civil war also
- 55 people killed by Brendon Tarrant in NZ
- 70 people killed by Anders Brevik
- 168 people killed by Timothy McVeigh


Neither. As usual I am trying to establish facts. I'm asking how many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis. Are the people on that list confirmed neo-nazis acting on orders from that organization or were they lone individuals operating solitary?



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21 Oct 2019, 1:07 am

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Neither. I'm asking how many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis. Are the people on that list confirmed neo-nazis acting on orders from that organization or were they lone individuals operating solitary?


I doubt that would matter to the families of the victims, lone wolf killers are inspired by websites run by stormfront or the Alt-right or other right wing platforms just like the way lone jihadists are inspired by online propaganda by ISIS or Al Qaeda.

Only difference is that ISIS or Al Qaeda supports are sent to Guantanimo bay while white supremacists in the US are voted into political office
https://newrepublic.com/article/153276/ ... an-leaders



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21 Oct 2019, 1:33 am

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Neither. I'm asking how many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis. Are the people on that list confirmed neo-nazis acting on orders from that organization or were they lone individuals operating solitary?


I doubt that would matter to the families of the victims, lone wolf killers are inspired by websites run by stormfront or the Alt-right or other right wing platforms just like the way lone jihadists are inspired by online propaganda by ISIS or Al Qaeda.

Only difference is that ISIS or Al Qaeda supports are sent to Guantanimo bay while white supremacists in the US are voted into political office
https://newrepublic.com/article/153276/ ... an-leaders


In other words either the answer is none or you do not know, so you deflect.