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30 Dec 2019, 12:29 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


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30 Dec 2019, 2:17 am

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Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.


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30 Dec 2019, 2:30 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.


When I read statements like that, I evaluate the allegations and often find inaccuracies, exaggerations, conjecture and so on. Which I point out. Which leads to be being accused of defending trump, when in fact I am arguing against what was claimed due to inherent flaws found in the claim. But it seems most of the time those parroting claims are far too driven by emotion to be resonable.



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30 Dec 2019, 2:36 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.


When I read statements like that, I evaluate the allegations and often find inaccuracies, exaggerations, conjecture and so on. Which I point out. Which leads to be being accused of defending trump, when in fact I am arguing against what was claimed due to inherent flaws found in the claim. But it seems most of the time those parroting claims are far too driven by emotion to be resonable.


I forgot to add cut social security.
This stuff is all in the national news, and easy to investigate, and not driven by emotion. Trump has instigated tax cuts that made the rich richer, and had made promises to ordinary people of tax cuts that never materialized. Why is it so hard to believe that Trump wants to cut everything that helps ordinary people for the sake of making rich Republican donors wealthier at our expense?


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30 Dec 2019, 2:39 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.

Trump is putting an end to millionaires being eligible for food stamps.

What restriction would you put on food stamps?

Everyone could use the benefit, where should we draw the line?

Why Are Millionaires Able to Receive Food Stamps?
https://fee.org/articles/why-are-millio ... od-stamps/


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30 Dec 2019, 2:52 am

TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.

Trump is putting an end to millionaires being eligible for food stamps.

What restriction would you put on food stamps?

Everyone could use the benefit, where should we draw the line?

Why Are Millionaires Able to Receive Food Stamps?
https://fee.org/articles/why-are-millio ... od-stamps/


Trump and his gang may put out that sort of spin on food stamp cuts, but the fact of the matter is that very few millionaires misuse EBT. In reality, that talk is just a bait and switch to allow food stamps to be cut for millions of people who actually need them.


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30 Dec 2019, 3:03 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.


When I read statements like that, I evaluate the allegations and often find inaccuracies, exaggerations, conjecture and so on. Which I point out. Which leads to be being accused of defending trump, when in fact I am arguing against what was claimed due to inherent flaws found in the claim. But it seems most of the time those parroting claims are far too driven by emotion to be resonable.


I forgot to add cut social security.
This stuff is all in the national news, and easy to investigate, and not driven by emotion. Trump has instigated tax cuts that made the rich richer, and had made promises to ordinary people of tax cuts that never materialized. Why is it so hard to believe that Trump wants to cut everything that helps ordinary people for the sake of making rich Republican donors wealthier at our expense?


When it comes to social security, I found a bunch of articles about Obama cutting social security. A lot of the time I find the things trump is doing or accused of doing that's presented as being so egregious, occurred during other administrations. But there seems to a Trump Time Bubble where much is viewed as starting with trump or being exclusive to trump, when it is not.



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30 Dec 2019, 3:14 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.


When I read statements like that, I evaluate the allegations and often find inaccuracies, exaggerations, conjecture and so on. Which I point out. Which leads to be being accused of defending trump, when in fact I am arguing against what was claimed due to inherent flaws found in the claim. But it seems most of the time those parroting claims are far too driven by emotion to be resonable.


I forgot to add cut social security.
This stuff is all in the national news, and easy to investigate, and not driven by emotion. Trump has instigated tax cuts that made the rich richer, and had made promises to ordinary people of tax cuts that never materialized. Why is it so hard to believe that Trump wants to cut everything that helps ordinary people for the sake of making rich Republican donors wealthier at our expense?


When it comes to social security, I found a bunch of articles about Obama cutting social security. A lot of the time I find the things trump is doing or accused of doing that's presented as being so egregious, occurred during other administrations. But there seems to a Trump Time Bubble where much is viewed as starting with trump or being exclusive to trump, when it is not.

Trump's proposal is that a single person can have income of about $30,000 (potentially more with corresponding tax deductions), and still get food stamps. Additionally, Trump is putting a limit on a person's assets (this will make rich people ineligible).

is this unreasonable?


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30 Dec 2019, 3:25 am

TheRobotLives wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.


When I read statements like that, I evaluate the allegations and often find inaccuracies, exaggerations, conjecture and so on. Which I point out. Which leads to be being accused of defending trump, when in fact I am arguing against what was claimed due to inherent flaws found in the claim. But it seems most of the time those parroting claims are far too driven by emotion to be resonable.


I forgot to add cut social security.
This stuff is all in the national news, and easy to investigate, and not driven by emotion. Trump has instigated tax cuts that made the rich richer, and had made promises to ordinary people of tax cuts that never materialized. Why is it so hard to believe that Trump wants to cut everything that helps ordinary people for the sake of making rich Republican donors wealthier at our expense?


When it comes to social security, I found a bunch of articles about Obama cutting social security. A lot of the time I find the things trump is doing or accused of doing that's presented as being so egregious, occurred during other administrations. But there seems to a Trump Time Bubble where much is viewed as starting with trump or being exclusive to trump, when it is not.

Trump's proposal is that a single person can have income of about $30,000 (potentially more with corresponding tax deductions), and still get food stamps. Additionally, Trump is putting a limit on a person's assets (this will make rich people ineligible).

is this unreasonable?


No of course not. A lot of times when I go over the details of what's supposed to be horrendous, I find nothing of the sort.



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30 Dec 2019, 4:18 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.


When I read statements like that, I evaluate the allegations and often find inaccuracies, exaggerations, conjecture and so on. Which I point out. Which leads to be being accused of defending trump, when in fact I am arguing against what was claimed due to inherent flaws found in the claim. But it seems most of the time those parroting claims are far too driven by emotion to be resonable.


I forgot to add cut social security.
This stuff is all in the national news, and easy to investigate, and not driven by emotion. Trump has instigated tax cuts that made the rich richer, and had made promises to ordinary people of tax cuts that never materialized. Why is it so hard to believe that Trump wants to cut everything that helps ordinary people for the sake of making rich Republican donors wealthier at our expense?


When it comes to social security, I found a bunch of articles about Obama cutting social security. A lot of the time I find the things trump is doing or accused of doing that's presented as being so egregious, occurred during other administrations. But there seems to a Trump Time Bubble where much is viewed as starting with trump or being exclusive to trump, when it is not.


People I know on social security had no cuts that I know of under Obama.


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30 Dec 2019, 4:23 am

TheRobotLives wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.


When I read statements like that, I evaluate the allegations and often find inaccuracies, exaggerations, conjecture and so on. Which I point out. Which leads to be being accused of defending trump, when in fact I am arguing against what was claimed due to inherent flaws found in the claim. But it seems most of the time those parroting claims are far too driven by emotion to be resonable.


I forgot to add cut social security.
This stuff is all in the national news, and easy to investigate, and not driven by emotion. Trump has instigated tax cuts that made the rich richer, and had made promises to ordinary people of tax cuts that never materialized. Why is it so hard to believe that Trump wants to cut everything that helps ordinary people for the sake of making rich Republican donors wealthier at our expense?


When it comes to social security, I found a bunch of articles about Obama cutting social security. A lot of the time I find the things trump is doing or accused of doing that's presented as being so egregious, occurred during other administrations. But there seems to a Trump Time Bubble where much is viewed as starting with trump or being exclusive to trump, when it is not.

Trump's proposal is that a single person can have income of about $30,000 (potentially more with corresponding tax deductions), and still get food stamps. Additionally, Trump is putting a limit on a person's assets (this will make rich people ineligible).

is this unreasonable?


In fact a great many people on food stamps are working full time jobs, and some are even business owners (I personally know one). Despite this, wages have not kept up with the cost of living, and that's not even mentioning the huge bite medical care takes out of a person's budget. There is nothing amicable about Trump's food stamp cuts, and it's going to hurt far more than millionaire food stamp cheats.


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30 Dec 2019, 4:46 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.


When I read statements like that, I evaluate the allegations and often find inaccuracies, exaggerations, conjecture and so on. Which I point out. Which leads to be being accused of defending trump, when in fact I am arguing against what was claimed due to inherent flaws found in the claim. But it seems most of the time those parroting claims are far too driven by emotion to be resonable.


I forgot to add cut social security.
This stuff is all in the national news, and easy to investigate, and not driven by emotion. Trump has instigated tax cuts that made the rich richer, and had made promises to ordinary people of tax cuts that never materialized. Why is it so hard to believe that Trump wants to cut everything that helps ordinary people for the sake of making rich Republican donors wealthier at our expense?


When it comes to social security, I found a bunch of articles about Obama cutting social security. A lot of the time I find the things trump is doing or accused of doing that's presented as being so egregious, occurred during other administrations. But there seems to a Trump Time Bubble where much is viewed as starting with trump or being exclusive to trump, when it is not.


People I know on social security had no cuts that I know of under Obama.


I'm not saying he cut social security. I'm saying I found a lot of news articles saying he would. Just like there are stories that trump will.



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30 Dec 2019, 4:58 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.


When I read statements like that, I evaluate the allegations and often find inaccuracies, exaggerations, conjecture and so on. Which I point out. Which leads to be being accused of defending trump, when in fact I am arguing against what was claimed due to inherent flaws found in the claim. But it seems most of the time those parroting claims are far too driven by emotion to be resonable.


I forgot to add cut social security.
This stuff is all in the national news, and easy to investigate, and not driven by emotion. Trump has instigated tax cuts that made the rich richer, and had made promises to ordinary people of tax cuts that never materialized. Why is it so hard to believe that Trump wants to cut everything that helps ordinary people for the sake of making rich Republican donors wealthier at our expense?


When it comes to social security, I found a bunch of articles about Obama cutting social security. A lot of the time I find the things trump is doing or accused of doing that's presented as being so egregious, occurred during other administrations. But there seems to a Trump Time Bubble where much is viewed as starting with trump or being exclusive to trump, when it is not.


People I know on social security had no cuts that I know of under Obama.


I'm not saying he cut social security. I'm saying I found a lot of news articles saying he would. Just like there are stories that trump will.


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/her ... ed-changes

This is what Trump wants to do.


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Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.


When I read statements like that, I evaluate the allegations and often find inaccuracies, exaggerations, conjecture and so on. Which I point out. Which leads to be being accused of defending trump, when in fact I am arguing against what was claimed due to inherent flaws found in the claim. But it seems most of the time those parroting claims are far too driven by emotion to be resonable.


I forgot to add cut social security.
This stuff is all in the national news, and easy to investigate, and not driven by emotion. Trump has instigated tax cuts that made the rich richer, and had made promises to ordinary people of tax cuts that never materialized. Why is it so hard to believe that Trump wants to cut everything that helps ordinary people for the sake of making rich Republican donors wealthier at our expense?


When it comes to social security, I found a bunch of articles about Obama cutting social security. A lot of the time I find the things trump is doing or accused of doing that's presented as being so egregious, occurred during other administrations. But there seems to a Trump Time Bubble where much is viewed as starting with trump or being exclusive to trump, when it is not.

Trump's proposal is that a single person can have income of about $30,000 (potentially more with corresponding tax deductions), and still get food stamps. Additionally, Trump is putting a limit on a person's assets (this will make rich people ineligible).

is this unreasonable?


In fact a great many people on food stamps are working full time jobs, and some are even business owners (I personally know one). Despite this, wages have not kept up with the cost of living, and that's not even mentioning the huge bite medical care takes out of a person's budget. There is nothing amicable about Trump's food stamp cuts, and it's going to hurt far more than millionaire food stamp cheats.


$30,000 isn't a million, but it's a pretty good yearly wage for a single individual. My aunt makes around 30 k and was a single mother. She never applied for food stamps. She got by by being frugal and sensible. I bet there are single people who drive a fancy new car that's more extensive than they can afford who are on food stamps.



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30 Dec 2019, 5:03 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most everything? How so?


Democrats appear to be outraged over everything he does.

Their bias makes them reach wrong conclusions.


Cutting food stamps, meals on wheels, rolling back LGBT rights, supporting voter suppression, and having way too cozy of relationships with the enemies of liberal democracy, etc, can't be interpreted in any other way but as deplorable.


When I read statements like that, I evaluate the allegations and often find inaccuracies, exaggerations, conjecture and so on. Which I point out. Which leads to be being accused of defending trump, when in fact I am arguing against what was claimed due to inherent flaws found in the claim. But it seems most of the time those parroting claims are far too driven by emotion to be resonable.


I forgot to add cut social security.
This stuff is all in the national news, and easy to investigate, and not driven by emotion. Trump has instigated tax cuts that made the rich richer, and had made promises to ordinary people of tax cuts that never materialized. Why is it so hard to believe that Trump wants to cut everything that helps ordinary people for the sake of making rich Republican donors wealthier at our expense?


When it comes to social security, I found a bunch of articles about Obama cutting social security. A lot of the time I find the things trump is doing or accused of doing that's presented as being so egregious, occurred during other administrations. But there seems to a Trump Time Bubble where much is viewed as starting with trump or being exclusive to trump, when it is not.


People I know on social security had no cuts that I know of under Obama.


I'm not saying he cut social security. I'm saying I found a lot of news articles saying he would. Just like there are stories that trump will.


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/her ... ed-changes

This is what Trump wants to do.


Liberals didn’t kill Obama’s Social Security cuts. Republicans did.



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The biggest thing missing from your list is that trump is a totally sleazy greaseball slimy low class crass rude af racist chauvinistic as*hole.

My best guess is that EzraS autism impairs his ability to detect trump’s less than socially acceptable behaviour so he just can’t see it.

If there’s another explanation, I’m all ears.

Most other Autistic people here don’t like Trump personally and there are plenty of NT’s that love Trump’s personality so Autism is probably not it.

I just think Ezra likes the contrarian role.

I would have expected from you a diet explanation :D


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