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29 Dec 2019, 9:30 am

Mainstream Mormons say that the fundamentalists aren’t Mormons because the LDS Church no longer endorses polygamy and excommunicates members who practice it.

Still, early Mormons practiced polygamy. FLDSers are just trying to get back to those roots - the Good Ol’ Days, right guys? Who wants to have 3 wives all of whom wear pastel-colored prairie dresses? Speaking for myself, I’m, alone, as much trouble as three separate women.

Anyway, they are clearly fundamentalist Mormons no matter how much the LDS Church dislikes this reminder of the past.


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29 Dec 2019, 9:35 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
Mainstream Mormons say that the fundamentalists aren’t Mormons because the LDS Church no longer endorses polygamy and excommunicates members who practice it.

Still, early Mormons practiced polygamy. FLDSers are just trying to get back to those roots - the Good Ol’ Days, right guys? Who wants to have 3 wives all of whom wear pastel-colored prairie dresses?

Anyway, they are clearly fundamentalist Mormons no matter how much the LDS Church dislikes this reminder of the past.


Maybe the idea of multiple wives explains why Ezra said above you how there were many BoM in Las Vegas thrift stores for sale.



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29 Dec 2019, 9:41 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
Mainstream Mormons say that the fundamentalists aren’t Mormons because the LDS Church no longer endorses polygamy and excommunicates members who practice it.

Still, early Mormons practiced polygamy. FLDSers are just trying to get back to those roots - the Good Ol’ Days, right guys? Who wants to have 3 wives all of whom wear pastel-colored prairie dresses? Speaking for myself, I’m, alone, as much trouble as three separate women.

Anyway, they are clearly fundamentalist Mormons no matter how much the LDS Church dislikes this reminder of the past.


You have a good point. If the LDS President and Quorum of the 12 say they're not part of the church, then they're not. It's very organizational.



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29 Dec 2019, 9:45 am

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Twilightprincess wrote:
Mainstream Mormons say that the fundamentalists aren’t Mormons because the LDS Church no longer endorses polygamy and excommunicates members who practice it.

Still, early Mormons practiced polygamy. FLDSers are just trying to get back to those roots - the Good Ol’ Days, right guys? Who wants to have 3 wives all of whom wear pastel-colored prairie dresses?

Anyway, they are clearly fundamentalist Mormons no matter how much the LDS Church dislikes this reminder of the past.


Maybe the idea of multiple wives explains why Ezra said above you how there were many BoM in Las Vegas thrift stores for sale.


LOL You never know...

I think these days people would rather just sleep around than join a regressive religion.

Mormons probably give them to lots of people when they proselytize who don’t actually want them.

Some might think they want to try it and then decide: “No thanks! I like my vices too much!”

They might be leaving them in thrift stores in the hope that someone might see them and buy them. I’m constantly throwing away JW publications that they leave in various places. I help my community in whatever way I can!

Also, lots of people are leaving mainstream Mormonism. The retention rate in these sorts of religions is getting quite low.


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29 Dec 2019, 9:47 am

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Mainstream Mormons say that the fundamentalists aren’t Mormons because the LDS Church no longer endorses polygamy and excommunicates members who practice it.

Still, early Mormons practiced polygamy. FLDSers are just trying to get back to those roots - the Good Ol’ Days, right guys? Who wants to have 3 wives all of whom wear pastel-colored prairie dresses? Speaking for myself, I’m, alone, as much trouble as three separate women.

Anyway, they are clearly fundamentalist Mormons no matter how much the LDS Church dislikes this reminder of the past.


You have a good point. If the LDS President and Quorum of the 12 say they're not part of the church, then they're not. It's very organizational.


Yeah, the Church can say they aren’t Mormons but I’m not buying it from a philosophical standpoint. It’s just simple fundamentalism to me.


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So there excomunicated from the official LDS church but they follow there own interpretation of the book of Mormon.Are they Mormons? I don't know


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29 Dec 2019, 9:49 am

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So there excomunicated from the official LDS church but they follow there own interpretation of the book of Mormon.Are they Mormons? I don't know


If they were transported back to the 1860’s, would they be considered Mormons?

Probably which is why I consider them Mormons now.


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29 Dec 2019, 9:50 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
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Twilightprincess wrote:
Mainstream Mormons say that the fundamentalists aren’t Mormons because the LDS Church no longer endorses polygamy and excommunicates members who practice it.

Still, early Mormons practiced polygamy. FLDSers are just trying to get back to those roots - the Good Ol’ Days, right guys? Who wants to have 3 wives all of whom wear pastel-colored prairie dresses?

Anyway, they are clearly fundamentalist Mormons no matter how much the LDS Church dislikes this reminder of the past.


Maybe the idea of multiple wives explains why Ezra said above you how there were many BoM in Las Vegas thrift stores for sale.


LOL You never know...

I think these days people would rather just sleep around than join a regressive religion.

Mormons probably give them to lots of people when they proselytize who don’t actually want them.

Some might think they want to try it and then decide: “No thanks! I like my vices too much!”

They might be leaving them in thrift stores in the hope that someone might see them and buy them. I’m constantly throwing away JW publications that they leave in various places. I help my community in whatever way I can!

Also, lots of people are leaving mainstream Mormonism. The retention rate in these sorts of religions is getting quite low.


Probably if they are thinking clearly. I was thinking multiple wives might be the case if something happens like the first hangover movie.



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29 Dec 2019, 10:01 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
So there excomunicated from the official LDS church but they follow there own interpretation of the book of Mormon.Are they Mormons? I don't know


If they were transported back to the 1850’s, would they be considered Mormons?

Probably which is why I consider them Mormons now.


The Mormon church is patterned after the Catholic church. And the LDS president is like their version of the Pope. So if they don't have that person as their president, I don't see how they could be.

But the idea is that the Catholic church went bad and God restored the church through the LDS. My guess is the FLDS decided the LDS church went bad and they are now the restored church.



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29 Dec 2019, 10:05 am

Bravo5150 wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Mainstream Mormons say that the fundamentalists aren’t Mormons because the LDS Church no longer endorses polygamy and excommunicates members who practice it.

Still, early Mormons practiced polygamy. FLDSers are just trying to get back to those roots - the Good Ol’ Days, right guys? Who wants to have 3 wives all of whom wear pastel-colored prairie dresses?

Anyway, they are clearly fundamentalist Mormons no matter how much the LDS Church dislikes this reminder of the past.


Maybe the idea of multiple wives explains why Ezra said above you how there were many BoM in Las Vegas thrift stores for sale.


I just figured there are a lot of Morons there because Nevada borders Utah.



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29 Dec 2019, 10:06 am

What do THEY consider themselves?

Hasidic Jews don’t consider Jew of other sects “true Jews.”



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29 Dec 2019, 10:08 am

EzraS wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
So there excomunicated from the official LDS church but they follow there own interpretation of the book of Mormon.Are they Mormons? I don't know


If they were transported back to the 1850’s, would they be considered Mormons?

Probably which is why I consider them Mormons now.


The Mormon church is patterned after the Catholic church. And the LDS president is like their version of the Pope. So if they don't have that person as their president, I don't see how they could be.

But the idea is that the Catholic church went bad and God restored the church through the LDS. My guess is the FLDS decided the LDS church went bad and they are now the restored church.


But I bet they would’ve followed the early presidents. I think this pretty much boils down to wanting to practice polygamy and it’s a bonus if they can argue that this stance is justified.


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29 Dec 2019, 10:12 am

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What do THEY consider themselves?

Hasidic Jews don’t consider Jew of other sects “true Jews.”


I figure it's the same thing more or less. I think there is an Islam version of that too. And then the Baha'i Faith believe they are the next step in Islam. Like Christianity is viewed by Christians as the next step in Judaism.



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29 Dec 2019, 10:13 am

EzraS wrote:
Bravo5150 wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Mainstream Mormons say that the fundamentalists aren’t Mormons because the LDS Church no longer endorses polygamy and excommunicates members who practice it.

Still, early Mormons practiced polygamy. FLDSers are just trying to get back to those roots - the Good Ol’ Days, right guys? Who wants to have 3 wives all of whom wear pastel-colored prairie dresses?

Anyway, they are clearly fundamentalist Mormons no matter how much the LDS Church dislikes this reminder of the past.


Maybe the idea of multiple wives explains why Ezra said above you how there were many BoM in Las Vegas thrift stores for sale.


I just figured there are a lot of Morons there because Nevada borders Utah.


I would think Vegas would be more likely home to exmormons than practicing Mormons. Mormons are usually very much against having vices, while Vegas is home to almost any vice you can name.



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29 Dec 2019, 10:15 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
So there excomunicated from the official LDS church but they follow there own interpretation of the book of Mormon.Are they Mormons? I don't know


If they were transported back to the 1850’s, would they be considered Mormons?

Probably which is why I consider them Mormons now.


The Mormon church is patterned after the Catholic church. And the LDS president is like their version of the Pope. So if they don't have that person as their president, I don't see how they could be.

But the idea is that the Catholic church went bad and God restored the church through the LDS. My guess is the FLDS decided the LDS church went bad and they are now the restored church.


But I bet they would’ve followed the early presidents. I think this pretty much boils down to wanting to practice polygamy and it’s a bonus if they can argue that this stance is justified.


Probably mainly that, but also other concessions or amendments the LDS have made. They probably feel that Joseph Smith and Brigham Young wouldn't recognize the current LDS church.



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29 Dec 2019, 10:18 am

Bravo5150 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Bravo5150 wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Mainstream Mormons say that the fundamentalists aren’t Mormons because the LDS Church no longer endorses polygamy and excommunicates members who practice it.

Still, early Mormons practiced polygamy. FLDSers are just trying to get back to those roots - the Good Ol’ Days, right guys? Who wants to have 3 wives all of whom wear pastel-colored prairie dresses?

Anyway, they are clearly fundamentalist Mormons no matter how much the LDS Church dislikes this reminder of the past.


Maybe the idea of multiple wives explains why Ezra said above you how there were many BoM in Las Vegas thrift stores for sale.


I just figured there are a lot of Morons there because Nevada borders Utah.


I would think Vegas would be more likely home to exmormons than practicing Mormons. Mormons are usually very much against having vices, while Vegas is home to almost any vice you can name.


Minus the Vegas Strip and Fremont Street, Vegas is pretty much just an ordinary city like Phoenix. There are LDS churches all over the place there. Lots of Mormon missionaries zipping around on bicycles.



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