Mississippi gov declares April ‘Confederate Heritage Month’

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09 Apr 2020, 8:45 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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Why the need for such emotiveness?
You weren't even born when it happened.
I find a more objective mindset pays greater dividends in terms of enlightenment.
Is this a reaction to the anxieties associated with the coronavirus crisis?
Or have you had a "snoot full"? :mrgreen:


Do I sound different then I usually do on this topic?
Maybe you have the luxury if treating these matters with detachment, but considering parts of my family aren't white I tend to take problems caused by white supremacy seriously because they impact people I care about. I don't get to pretend like it's just a disagreement over ideology that has no real world implications.


I can view what happened during WWII with considerable detachment, these days.
It just takes discipline.

I don't know what your situation is over there.
I am not saying you shouldn't take you personal/family circumstances seriously.
But I think a more rational approach garners greater benefits.

I am an emotional person, but I see it as a flaw in my character and choose not to engage in cathartic emotionalism wherever possible.
I am not saying it doesn't happen, though. :wink:

"Different strokes for different folks", meh. :shrug:



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09 Apr 2020, 8:46 pm

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I'm sorry if I don't trust humans to do the noble thing when it comes to war, especially Americans with their sanctimonious hypocrisy.


Well, you aren't an idiot after all.
Who would? :mrgreen:



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09 Apr 2020, 8:47 pm

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I'm sorry if I don't trust humans to do the noble thing when it comes to war, especially Americans with their sanctimonious hypocrisy.


I actually 100% agree with this, it's just that I don't think bickering even between the most extremely opposed blocs is quite at the point of being war. That's one of the reasons folks let their rhetoric get so wound up, because they're not viewing it as that serious yet.


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09 Apr 2020, 8:50 pm

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Well I guess next time they'll just have to nuke the hell out of the south killing women and children like they did Japan during WW2 and convince themselves that they were heroes for doing so.


That is one way. 8O
Not my preferred method,
But whatever floats your boat, meh. :wink:

That's clearly what the liberals secretly want at this point. And before you get the wrong idea about me no I'm not siding with Trump or those confederate flag-waving rednecks. I don't affiliate with either side. They're both corrupt. Lol


It's good to see that at least one person, besides myself, is non-partisan. :mrgreen:



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09 Apr 2020, 8:54 pm

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We haven’t had a civil war.....since the Civil War.


You rebelled against your British king.
Doesn't that count? :mrgreen:
It just didn't happen in mother England. :wink:



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09 Apr 2020, 8:57 pm

Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
We haven’t had a civil war.....since the Civil War.


You rebelled against your British king.
Doesn't that count? :mrgreen:
It just didn't happen in mother England. :wink:


A: Pepe has his chronology backwards here.
B: Nobody in the present day U.S. ever had a British monarch.


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09 Apr 2020, 9:00 pm

Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Why the need for such emotiveness?
You weren't even born when it happened.
I find a more objective mindset pays greater dividends in terms of enlightenment.
Is this a reaction to the anxieties associated with the coronavirus crisis?
Or have you had a "snoot full"? :mrgreen:


Do I sound different then I usually do on this topic?
Maybe you have the luxury if treating these matters with detachment, but considering parts of my family aren't white I tend to take problems caused by white supremacy seriously because they impact people I care about. I don't get to pretend like it's just a disagreement over ideology that has no real world implications.


I can view what happened during WWII with considerable detachment, these days.
It just takes discipline.

I don't know what your situation is over there.
I am not saying you shouldn't take you personal/family circumstances seriously.
But I think a more rational approach garners greater benefits.

I am an emotional person, but I see it as a flaw in my character and choose not to engage in cathartic emotionalism wherever possible.
I am not saying it doesn't happen, though. :wink:

"Different strokes for different folks", meh. :shrug:


At least one significant difference, you seem to be discussing it as though it's only a historic issue, and it's easy to be detached when the debate is just about scoring points because the matter is resolved.

I don't believe the problem of white supremacist ideology and the actions it inspires is resolved. The last Tory MP for my riding was a woman who regularly spoke in front of white supremacist groups. Thankfully the Conservatives chose not to run that woman again, so my current Tory MP isn't a constant reminder, but that's just a single example of how it's actually 'in play'.

Here's a story from a few years back, Kellie Leitch is my former MP:
https://www.macleans.ca/politics/how-ke ... an-values/

Until the shutdown at least once a day I'd hear at least one coworker going off about how indigenous people should just be dealt with violently when we attempt to draw attention to causes and concerns that are relevant to our existence. While I don't believe those people will ever 'put their money where their mouth is' so to speak, the fact that a significant portion of my neighbours and coworkers don't feel any shame over advocating for our political speech to be silenced with violence tends to keep me a little on edge. I'd like to not have to worry about potentially being targeted for violence based on the stances I take, but at the end of the day that's not a privilege I'm able to receive.


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09 Apr 2020, 9:01 pm

cberg wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
We haven’t had a civil war.....since the Civil War.


You rebelled against your British king.
Doesn't that count? :mrgreen:
It just didn't happen in mother England. :wink:


A: Pepe has his chronology backwards here.
B: Nobody in the present day U.S. ever had a British monarch.


Refusing to recognize Elizabeth, second of her name of the House Windsor as your rightful monarch doesn't make her any less your Queen. Image


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Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.


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09 Apr 2020, 9:04 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
cberg wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
We haven’t had a civil war.....since the Civil War.


You rebelled against your British king.
Doesn't that count? :mrgreen:
It just didn't happen in mother England. :wink:


A: Pepe has his chronology backwards here.
B: Nobody in the present day U.S. ever had a British monarch.


Refusing to recognize Elizabeth, second of her name of the House Windsor as your rightful monarch doesn't make her any less your Queen. Image

Sorry, but the only queen you'll find around here is RuPaul :queen:



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09 Apr 2020, 9:06 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
cberg wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
We haven’t had a civil war.....since the Civil War.


You rebelled against your British king.
Doesn't that count? :mrgreen:
It just didn't happen in mother England. :wink:


A: Pepe has his chronology backwards here.
B: Nobody in the present day U.S. ever had a British monarch.


Refusing to recognize Elizabeth, second of her name of the House Windsor as your rightful monarch doesn't make her any less your Queen. Image


Well if I had to choose between her & a vile dessicated yam on Twitter... :scratch:


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09 Apr 2020, 9:09 pm

Twiggy doesn't want to be a queen, he wants to be THE Queen! So he can stop the next American Civil War before it happens. :queen:



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09 Apr 2020, 9:17 pm

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Sorry, but the only queen you'll find around here is RuPaul :queen:


Won't lie, RuPaul is on my list of people who would make a better president than President DriedYamFace.

cberg wrote:
Well if I had to choose between her & a vile dessicated yam on Twitter... :scratch:


Lizzy Windsor vs RuPaul sounds like an interesting election. The Queen America needs vs. the Queen America wants.


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09 Apr 2020, 9:20 pm

Hell a rabid dog would have made a better president...



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09 Apr 2020, 9:46 pm

Anyways for the record I don't support celebrating a heritage of slavery, racism, white slave owners raping black slave women to sell their babies off, or lynching black men for having sex with white women. I can however get behind the whole treason thing because I won't lie I actually DO hate this country. A lot. This country needs a divorce, maybe now is a good time since we don't have slaves anymore?



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09 Apr 2020, 9:52 pm

If we divorce now the south can continue living in a delusional past and the north can continue thinking they're morally surperior to the south while the west can just keep whoring itself for money. That way everyone is happy.



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09 Apr 2020, 9:57 pm

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I'm sure good southerners will write slogans on the monuments to traitors in red paint, or perhaps even chain them up and tear them from their pedestals to show the amount of respect decent people have for those historic war criminals and traitors.


Putting aside white southerners nostalgia for the days of antebellum slavery....the governor of Mississippi isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-des ... oronavirus

Republicans seem to have a knack for voting in incompetent idiots...that he is focused on the confederacy when he should be focusing on saving the lives of his constituents is testimony to the quality of this man.