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07 Jun 2020, 12:08 pm

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Maybe they should ask the Irish if they find inscriptions in English in their own country to be "triggering" and political :twisted:

:lol: can ya imagine, we would always be on google translate if there was only Irish inscriptions.

Its poking fun of course, but quite accurate in its own way:


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07 Jun 2020, 12:26 pm

WTF? You, Bender, have something against the town of Coventry?
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Anyway...okay so its in the heart of England, and not where the tensions are in Ulster.

So that means that the tombstone is like...

the Kingsmen's version of the song "Louie Louie"! :lol:

Nobody can understand the words...so...it MUST be concealing something DIRTY! So we HAVE to ban it from the airways! :lol:





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07 Jun 2020, 12:37 pm

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WTF? You, Bender, have something against the town of Coventry?


What exactly is the problem? Coventry is a fairly famous location historically speaking and yes, I was shocked by its current state - that was about 10 years ago.

I have nothing against the place itself or its inhabitants but didn't expect to find so much filth, poverty, vandalism and violence there.

When was the last time you visited?


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07 Jun 2020, 1:02 pm

Karamazov wrote:
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I have not heard of suppressing what is said on a grave stone,what country did this,what jurisdiction did this?I have never heard of a gravestone being censored. :?


It’s in the UK: Coventry area (about two and a bit hours drive from where I am).
The jurisdiction in question is the Church if England/diocese of Coventry. The church has very little legal power nowadays, but the erection of buildings and monuments on land it owns is subject to church courts rather than state courts.
I have noticed in English movies and television that cemetery's are often on church grounds.

You don't see this in the US ,cemetery's are private owned.


Ah, interesting: didn’t know that. :)
In the UK there are burial grounds owned by the established church, burial grounds owned by non-established churches (and by synagogues, maybe other religions have their own too, but I’ve never seen them), burial grounds owned by the state (local councils not central government), and burial grounds owned by private businesses.
Towns own cemetary's here a lot too.


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07 Jun 2020, 1:22 pm

We have church cemeteries, too.

But the graves are usually of people who lived in the 19th century or before.



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07 Jun 2020, 2:25 pm

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We have church cemeteries, too.

But the graves are usually of people who lived in the 19th century or before.

Over here churches either purchase portions of adjacent fields to extend the graveyard, or if that’s not possible reuse very old graves. Church next to my primary school had most of the pre-1800 local sandstone gravestones leant against the perimeter wall inscription side up, and new polished granite ones in their place.

@vermontsavant, did wonder if I’d got the wrong impression a while after posting.



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07 Jun 2020, 3:21 pm

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@vermontsavant, did wonder if I’d got the wrong impression a while after posting.
What do you mean.


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07 Jun 2020, 3:29 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
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@vermontsavant, did wonder if I’d got the wrong impression a while after posting.
What do you mean.

I initially thought you meant all burial grounds in the US are owned by business ventures.



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07 Jun 2020, 4:29 pm

Dara's right, absolutely idiotic.

If the family are big in the Irish community in Coventry and this is a CofE church then it's prob a church with a large number of protestant Irish families, is it possible the decision was made with them in mind. That makes more sense than the wider English community who as Karamazov pointed out wouldn't recognise it as Irish and wouldn't care if they did.

Coventry was bound to be ugly, we've been sending everyone we don't want to talk to there for decades. And the German thing, of course.



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07 Jun 2020, 4:37 pm

Church of England say this is not a national policy (I think they are :oops: ). I think they will need to do more than just say that though.



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07 Jun 2020, 4:53 pm

BenderRodriguez wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
WTF? You, Bender, have something against the town of Coventry?


What exactly is the problem? Coventry is a fairly famous location historically speaking and yes, I was shocked by its current state - that was about 10 years ago.

I have nothing against the place itself or its inhabitants but didn't expect to find so much filth, poverty, vandalism and violence there.

When was the last time you visited?


Sending the whole town of Coventry to...Coventry? :lol:

It just seemed like a nonsequitar to the thread topic.

But I guess I might be taken aback too if I expected to see a grand historical city, and saw a tawdry slum instead. Am an American so it not on my radar screen think about Coventry. I know that there is cathedral, something called "Coventry gardens", and that the whole city got pulverized by the Luftwaffe in WWII.



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07 Jun 2020, 4:59 pm

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Dara's right, absolutely idiotic.

If the family are big in the Irish community in Coventry and this is a CofE church then it's prob a church with a large number of protestant Irish families, is it possible the decision was made with them in mind. That makes more sense than the wider English community who as Karamazov pointed out wouldn't recognise it as Irish and wouldn't care if they did.

Coventry was bound to be ugly, we've been sending everyone we don't want to talk to there for decades..

What's up with that? When you ostracize folks, why do you Brits call it "sending them to Coventry" of all places? :lol:



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07 Jun 2020, 5:30 pm

^ We don’t really know! :lol:
It’s first recorded in writing during the civil wars of the C17th, could be connected to a couple of events during that period, or be older :shrug:

fluffysaurus wrote:
Church of England say this is not a national policy (I think they are :oops: ). I think they will need to do more than just say that though.

I think that would mean leaning on the chancellor of the consistory court to grant permission to appeal to the court of arches.



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07 Jun 2020, 8:45 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
I have not heard of suppressing what is said on a grave stone,what country did this,what jurisdiction did this?I have never heard of a gravestone being censored. :?


Well,
I've inquired if I could have the following inscription on my headstone when I go:
"Thank god that is over with!"
But they wouldn't allow it. :(

Errr,
Joke. :mrgreen:



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07 Jun 2020, 8:54 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Also love the Irish sense of humour- this is an Irish car bomb - Guinness followed by an Irish cream and whiskey :lol:

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Perhaps the rest of us could learn a "ting or two"


It's not a Guinness followed by Irish cream , you have to drop the shot glass into the Guinness and drink as one , it's a.k.a an elephant orgasm

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07 Jun 2020, 9:01 pm

TuskenR wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Also love the Irish sense of humour- this is an Irish car bomb - Guinness followed by an Irish cream and whiskey :lol:

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Perhaps the rest of us could learn a "ting or two"


It's not a Guinness followed by Irish cream , you have to drop the shot glass into the Guinness and drink as one , it's a.k.a an elephant orgasm

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Good grief! my admiration for the Irish just increased :lol: