Seattle area claims for be independent from USA.
Long live cascadia, the left are pro secession now so now the time for large parts of Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Canada to split off to for, their own nation.
Even our wp Canadian is in favor of it.
Which part of Canada are you in goldfish we might see in be fellow citizen of cascadia
Wonder if when Texas seceded if they use their old flag for their nation.
What flag will nation of California use?
Will the southern states use the confederate flag again you think?
We can have our own Europe of nations yay
The Hawaiians can be kingdom again do you think they’re reinstate their monarchy?
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But will the nation of cascadia accept the nation if chas in their boarders.......
It could be our Liechtenstein now cute.
Though cascadia will probably split into west cascadia and East cascadia and habe a Korea Cold War.
So do I order a West or East cascadia flag ?
Wonder if it’ll become a proxy war for the nations of Texas and California
Though maybe I can get enough local supoort to form the nation of foxes. And fox ownership will be legal.
Oh but maybe cascadia will make owning foxes legal.
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Either the United States is going to be run by elected officials or the Devo prediction comes true and we devolve in to fiefdoms.
Michigan was protesting on government public property. No different then any other protest but they were armed since protesting gun control. To compare them to a group who takers over a neighborhood(not even theres) and delacres it seceded from the USA.
They more like the sovereign citizen movement and just as crazy. But even the sovereign citizen mov,ent doesn’t take over who neighborhoods bu gun point.
There’s no democracy inside the new independent nation. It’s brute force rules and you pay their extortion or die. Show them ID or die. Do what they say or die.
Yet they claim to be different then the Abusive police force.
Well guess so. Mean cops just arrest you if you don’t show ID.
If Michigan would been insurection or rebellion they’d shot the cops arrested the governor and hung her in the capital.
A protest with guns is just a protest. I’d wager most the protesters for blm habe knifes and other weapons but they aren’t called armed terrorist.
Like I said both are very different situations. That said as a Michigan legislator I would have certainly felt like a hostage.
Off topic a bit the Michigan situation is reminiscent of when armed Black Panthers in some ways the forerunner to BLM went into the California State Legislature in 1967. In both cases the second amendment while not the primary reasons for the actions was an underlining theme. Politics does indeed make strange bedfellows.
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Either the United States is going to be run by elected officials or the Devo prediction comes true and we devolve in to fiefdoms.
Michigan was protesting on government public property. No different then any other protest but they were armed since protesting gun control. To compare them to a group who takers over a neighborhood(not even theres) and delacres it seceded from the USA.
They more like the sovereign citizen movement and just as crazy. But even the sovereign citizen mov,ent doesn’t take over who neighborhoods bu gun point.
There’s no democracy inside the new independent nation. It’s brute force rules and you pay their extortion or die. Show them ID or die. Do what they say or die.
Yet they claim to be different then the Abusive police force.
Well guess so. Mean cops just arrest you if you don’t show ID.
If Michigan would been insurection or rebellion they’d shot the cops arrested the governor and hung her in the capital.
A protest with guns is just a protest. I’d wager most the protesters for blm habe knifes and other weapons but they aren’t called armed terrorist.
Like I said both are very different situations. That said as a Michigan legislator I would have certainly felt like a hostage.
Off topic a bit the Michigan situation is reminiscent of when armed Black Panthers in some ways the forerunner to BLM went into the California State Legislature in 1967. In both cases the second amendment while not the primary reasons for the actions was an underlining theme. Politics does indeed make strange bedfellows.
Mean like how trump felt like a hostage?
Black panthers are pro gun, so they show up at pro gun protests. No one has an issue.
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So if chas goes into a civil war we’d need approval from un to become involved in a. Foreign war. Or what if another group does the same thing and they or the oringal group attack the other. Oh god russia and China must be enjoying this.
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Either the United States is going to be run by elected officials or the Devo prediction comes true and we devolve in to fiefdoms.
Michigan was protesting on government public property. No different then any other protest but they were armed since protesting gun control. To compare them to a group who takers over a neighborhood(not even theres) and delacres it seceded from the USA.
They more like the sovereign citizen movement and just as crazy. But even the sovereign citizen mov,ent doesn’t take over who neighborhoods bu gun point.
There’s no democracy inside the new independent nation. It’s brute force rules and you pay their extortion or die. Show them ID or die. Do what they say or die.
Yet they claim to be different then the Abusive police force.
Well guess so. Mean cops just arrest you if you don’t show ID.
If Michigan would been insurection or rebellion they’d shot the cops arrested the governor and hung her in the capital.
A protest with guns is just a protest. I’d wager most the protesters for blm habe knifes and other weapons but they aren’t called armed terrorist.
Like I said both are very different situations. That said as a Michigan legislator I would have certainly felt like a hostage.
Off topic a bit the Michigan situation is reminiscent of when armed Black Panthers in some ways the forerunner to BLM went into the California State Legislature in 1967. In both cases the second amendment while not the primary reasons for the actions was an underlining theme. Politics does indeed make strange bedfellows.
Mean like how trump felt like a hostage?
Black panthers are pro gun, so they show up at pro gun protests. No one has an issue.
In 1967 this action was widely described as an invasion. This propelled a gun control bill supported by the NRA and sponsored by a Republican to passage. Eventually the NRA would adopt a lot of the Black Panthers anti gun control reasoning.
The NRA Supported Gun Control When the Black Panthers Had the Weapons
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Either the United States is going to be run by elected officials or the Devo prediction comes true and we devolve in to fiefdoms.
Michigan was protesting on government public property. No different then any other protest but they were armed since protesting gun control. To compare them to a group who takers over a neighborhood(not even theres) and delacres it seceded from the USA.
They more like the sovereign citizen movement and just as crazy. But even the sovereign citizen mov,ent doesn’t take over who neighborhoods bu gun point.
There’s no democracy inside the new independent nation. It’s brute force rules and you pay their extortion or die. Show them ID or die. Do what they say or die.
Yet they claim to be different then the Abusive police force.
Well guess so. Mean cops just arrest you if you don’t show ID.
If Michigan would been insurection or rebellion they’d shot the cops arrested the governor and hung her in the capital.
A protest with guns is just a protest. I’d wager most the protesters for blm habe knifes and other weapons but they aren’t called armed terrorist.
Like I said both are very different situations. That said as a Michigan legislator I would have certainly felt like a hostage.
Off topic a bit the Michigan situation is reminiscent of when armed Black Panthers in some ways the forerunner to BLM went into the California State Legislature in 1967. In both cases the second amendment while not the primary reasons for the actions was an underlining theme. Politics does indeed make strange bedfellows.
Mean like how trump felt like a hostage?
Black panthers are pro gun, so they show up at pro gun protests. No one has an issue.
In 1967 this action was widely described as an invasion. This propelled a gun control bill supported by the NRA and sponsored by a Republican to passage. Eventually the NRA would adopt a lot of the Black Panthers anti gun control reasoning.
The NRA Supported Gun Control When the Black Panthers Had the Weapons
The Republican in question was Ronald Reagan, governor of California at the time. He was a not-so-closeted racist then, and during his 1976 presidential campaign.
I don’t know what his views were on race when he was president. His main priority as president was de-fanging the Soviets.
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I absolutely thing CHAZ should be allowed to run its course if the citizens of Seattle, the mayor and city council, etc are fine with it as well as the citizenry in general. I also think the best thing Trump could do for this situation is stay out of it and let it happen. If it continues as a community where the residents of CHAZ want it that way and it's able to sustain itself, leave it alone. If it goes bad and becomes a dangerous place full of squalor, Trump should still do nothing unless Seattle, the mayor and the governor of Washington publicly beg for help in no uncertain terms. Prior to any assistance, the media should do it's job of being impartial and have full access to CHAZ to the rest of the U.S. could see the dire situation and form a solid opinion on the situation. Unless those things happen (ie the begging for help and media coverage of the actual situation), then there should be no help whatsoever from the federal government. This is Seattle/Washington's issue and should be handled by them.
As Goldfish said in another thread about another topic: "You can't have it both ways". You can't decide inaction is the tactic you'll take with CHAZ and then criticize the federal government for either/both acting or not acting on the situation. Seattle/Washington would first need to "bust a move."
Deciding that you're a sovereign nation by fiat with no other measures is fine for a first step, but it's ridiculous over the long term. CHAZ would have to be legally recognized for it to have any level of permanence.
I do wonder what recourse, if any, both private and commercial property owners may have if property values in CHAZ go down to next to nothing, which they very likely will. Running a municipality isn't easy. Here's a FACT: Insurance companies would NOT continue to insure property within CHAZ without legitimate fire and police. It's preposterous to think that they would/should continue to do so. CHAZ would have to form its own legitimate fire and police departments which perhaps they could if there are regular massive cash infusions from outside of CHAZ to keep it running.
Even our wp Canadian is in favor of it.
Which part of Canada are you in goldfish we might see in be fellow citizen of cascadia
Wonder if when Texas seceded if they use their old flag for their nation.
What flag will nation of California use?
Will the southern states use the confederate flag again you think?
We can have our own Europe of nations yay
The Hawaiians can be kingdom again do you think they’re reinstate their monarchy?
The Republic of Texas flag *is* the one we use today.
California: their current flag. They were briefly a republic before they were a state.
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Either the United States is going to be run by elected officials or the Devo prediction comes true and we devolve in to fiefdoms.
Michigan was protesting on government public property. No different then any other protest but they were armed since protesting gun control. To compare them to a group who takers over a neighborhood(not even theres) and delacres it seceded from the USA.
They more like the sovereign citizen movement and just as crazy. But even the sovereign citizen mov,ent doesn’t take over who neighborhoods bu gun point.
There’s no democracy inside the new independent nation. It’s brute force rules and you pay their extortion or die. Show them ID or die. Do what they say or die.
Yet they claim to be different then the Abusive police force.
Well guess so. Mean cops just arrest you if you don’t show ID.
If Michigan would been insurection or rebellion they’d shot the cops arrested the governor and hung her in the capital.
A protest with guns is just a protest. I’d wager most the protesters for blm habe knifes and other weapons but they aren’t called armed terrorist.
Like I said both are very different situations. That said as a Michigan legislator I would have certainly felt like a hostage.
Off topic a bit the Michigan situation is reminiscent of when armed Black Panthers in some ways the forerunner to BLM went into the California State Legislature in 1967. In both cases the second amendment while not the primary reasons for the actions was an underlining theme. Politics does indeed make strange bedfellows.
Mean like how trump felt like a hostage?
Black panthers are pro gun, so they show up at pro gun protests. No one has an issue.
In 1967 this action was widely described as an invasion. This propelled a gun control bill supported by the NRA and sponsored by a Republican to passage. Eventually the NRA would adopt a lot of the Black Panthers anti gun control reasoning.
The NRA Supported Gun Control When the Black Panthers Had the Weapons
The Republican in question was Ronald Reagan, governor of California at the time. He was a not-so-closeted racist then, and during his 1976 presidential campaign.
I don’t know what his views were on race when he was president. His main priority as president was de-fanging the Soviets.
The bill had been sponsored by Republican legislature member Don Mulford prior to the armed Black Panthers marching on the capital. The bill was passed and signed into law by Governor Reagan after the Panthers action.
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Where are you getting your violent boogie man views of CHAZ from? Breitbart? Something even further right if there is a more extreme news source? ![]()
The only videos I saw of CHAZ showed a bunch of peaceful people protesting, painting art in the street, and there was a report they had a movie night. Ooo00o0ooOoo00Ooooh, scaries. ![]()
They’re a bunch of peaceful protestors doing their peaceful protest thing and that is why Seattle & Washington aren’t slaughtering them. As for your argument that they’ve seceded and are therefore fair game for feds to murder, please, do share with the rest of the group what evidence you have of their succession. Documents signed? Or just some protest signs and words? Somehow I don’t believe that even You believe they have actually seceded from the USA and it seems you’re just using that twisted logic as an excuse to condone violence against peaceful protestors who aren’t aligned with your political ideologies.
As for magas and proud boys (along with the KKK), IMO all of those white supremacist organizations should be labeled domestic terrorist organizations and no crap should be taken from them by anyone anywhere. The same groups should also be made illegal here in Canada, too.
I live ~10 miles North of the Peace Arch border crossing (Blaine, Wa.) in BC. IF Cascadia is ever a thing & gets split directionally, my vote is to close off North from your stupid coronavirus party in South Cascadia - keep your cooties to yourselves. We’re pro science and staying alive up here.
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