Monuments to racism toppling around the world.
I suggest Alan Turing. Man was probably aspie, gay, a war hero of the Second World War, didn't get the recognition he deserved in his lifetime and was treated like dirt after the war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing
To the eternal shame of Britain.
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Banksy proposes new statue honoring protesters who toppled Edward Colston statue in England
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-flo ... n-england/
He says drag it back out of the river and erect statues of protestors tearing it down to commemorate the protest and make everyone happy:
Classic Banksy political statement art. Not a terrible idea, really..
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It’s also kinda fun to watch the back and forth commentary about history and blah blah whatever. Ok, cool, argue about preserving history and such all you want while progressive humans continue to take action and toss bronze monuments to racism into rivers.

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It’s not refreshing, it’s frightening.

Are you talking about all the confederate monuments to white supremacy that were erected across the USA after the civil rights movement in 1968?
It appears the people have spoken and no longer grant bigots the social licence to display these pieces of crap. Tear them all down.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-leicestershire-53036785
Why would anyone petition to remove a monument to the #1 advocate for world peace?
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Don’t forget the Great pyramid, oh and the Roman Colosseum constructed by slaves and then made slaves fight to their death in it or fed them to wild animals for the amusement of the wealthy.
The Great Wall of China. Who bodies of the slave workers were just dropped inside it.
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Why would anyone petition to remove a monument to the #1 advocate for world peace?
Because he’s human and so not perfect. There’s most likely something bad about him just like all of us. Lincoln freed the slaves but was racist even a white supremis? Is t white supremacy the beleive whites are superior to blacks? Lincoln believed there to be physical differences between blacks and whites that made it so they could never be equal or live together. Many who were for abolishing slaverly didn’t think blacks were same as whites and didn’t want them to have the same rights as whites. The idea blacks would live with whites, vote, serve on juries trying whites or marry whites offended them.
So I suppose the issue is does the good a person do wipe or forgive the bad in them?
Was Lincoln a food man? He wouldn’t be considered one today, someone with his ideas is called a racist and certainly wouldn’t win any election to office.
Compared to others of his time he was certainly better then people who saw blacks are property. I wouldn’t be surprised if he also saw women as less equal. Most people did back then. So does the good he did make up for being a racist?
Does the good Washington, Jefferson and others did make up for being racist slave owners?
Reality is they’ve seen as great men and huge part of our nations cultur and standing. To tear them down will lead to great upheavel. Tearing down our identity as a nation. But we can’t be fair and unbiased if we tear down only some statues and monuments to racist people while giving others a pass.
There’s already been calls to tear down and rename stuff about Washington and Jefferson, Lincoln for his freeing the slaves is hide for now until some sjw find out his opinions on blacks and likely women, then he too will be on the chopping block.
Most of our heroes and leaders are flawed people With dark sides. Do we tear them all down?
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Reports coming in of statues fighting back!
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Why would anyone petition to remove a monument to the #1 advocate for world peace?
Because he’s human and so not perfect. There’s most likely something bad about him just like all of us. Lincoln freed the slaves but was racist even a white supremis? Is t white supremacy the beleive whites are superior to blacks? Lincoln believed there to be physical differences between blacks and whites that made it so they could never be equal or live together. Many who were for abolishing slaverly didn’t think blacks were same as whites and didn’t want them to have the same rights as whites. The idea blacks would live with whites, vote, serve on juries trying whites or marry whites offended them.
So I suppose the issue is does the good a person do wipe or forgive the bad in them?
Was Lincoln a food man? He wouldn’t be considered one today, someone with his ideas is called a racist and certainly wouldn’t win any election to office.
Compared to others of his time he was certainly better then people who saw blacks are property. I wouldn’t be surprised if he also saw women as less equal. Most people did back then. So does the good he did make up for being a racist?
Does the good Washington, Jefferson and others did make up for being racist slave owners?
Reality is they’ve seen as great men and huge part of our nations cultur and standing. To tear them down will lead to great upheavel. Tearing down our identity as a nation. But we can’t be fair and unbiased if we tear down only some statues and monuments to racist people while giving others a pass.
There’s already been calls to tear down and rename stuff about Washington and Jefferson, Lincoln for his freeing the slaves is hide for now until some sjw find out his opinions on blacks and likely women, then he too will be on the chopping block.
Most of our heroes and leaders are flawed people With dark sides. Do we tear them all down?
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Why would anyone petition to remove a monument to the #1 advocate for world peace?
Because he’s human and so not perfect. There’s most likely something bad about him just like all of us. Lincoln freed the slaves but was racist even a white supremis? Is t white supremacy the beleive whites are superior to blacks? Lincoln believed there to be physical differences between blacks and whites that made it so they could never be equal or live together. Many who were for abolishing slaverly didn’t think blacks were same as whites and didn’t want them to have the same rights as whites. The idea blacks would live with whites, vote, serve on juries trying whites or marry whites offended them.
So I suppose the issue is does the good a person do wipe or forgive the bad in them?
Was Lincoln a food man? He wouldn’t be considered one today, someone with his ideas is called a racist and certainly wouldn’t win any election to office.
Compared to others of his time he was certainly better then people who saw blacks are property. I wouldn’t be surprised if he also saw women as less equal. Most people did back then. So does the good he did make up for being a racist?
Does the good Washington, Jefferson and others did make up for being racist slave owners?
Reality is they’ve seen as great men and huge part of our nations cultur and standing. To tear them down will lead to great upheavel. Tearing down our identity as a nation. But we can’t be fair and unbiased if we tear down only some statues and monuments to racist people while giving others a pass.
There’s already been calls to tear down and rename stuff about Washington and Jefferson, Lincoln for his freeing the slaves is hide for now until some sjw find out his opinions on blacks and likely women, then he too will be on the chopping block.
Most of our heroes and leaders are flawed people With dark sides. Do we tear them all down?
Well yes and no maybe. Mean his first attempt at freeing slaves only did so in areas the union army took, idea being if the south surrendered quicker the less slaves they’d lose.
At same time he was being pressured by anti slavery but still racist Congress memebers.
There seems to be an idea that if ones anti slavery they can’t be racist.but that clearly isn’t so. Slavery itself isn’t a racist issue. Every race has been slaves. Mean slavely still happens today in western countries even as sex slaves which doesn’t care about ones race.
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Were the Egyptian pyramids built by slaves?

I could Google, but meh.

Start the bulldozers...

The Pyramids were not built by slaves.
But they WERE built by pre Islamic Pagan Heathens! So...Im with ISIL....lets all demolish them!

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