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23 Dec 2020, 11:00 am

The latest twist is the strangest.



Trump is now...trying to resort to bribery. On a ginormous scale.

He apparently is now trying to bribe the entire American electorate (you, me, and all of us American voters) into demanding that he stay in office, but also throwing his own party under the bus, by....giving us each 2000 dollars (as Covid relief).

Well... I am not gonna complain if Trump sends me the check, but ...he still lost the election. Thanks, but sorry guy.

Congress has bickered about it for months. Finnally agreed on a 5500 page document to outline how we all get only 600 dollars. The Dems wanted more, and Trump's GOP wanted to give less. That was the compromise amount.

But now..out of the blue...Trump wants us to get more money than GOP was willing to spend, and even more than the Dems dared to ask for.


And already two far left Democrats (Sanders and AOC)have announced that they are on board with Trump on it.

Sounds like I am putting you all on. But no. Thats what happening.

Its a little late. Late because Congress is not likely to be able to act on this on this short of a notice. But also late in the sense that Trump had all year to do this, so why did he wait until now to give us the generous relief that he suddenly now believes in? If he had offered even 12 or 15 hundred a couple months ago the Dems wouldve gone for it, and he not only likely would have been able to enact it, but he might well have won the election.

I am mean...is this as strange as it sounds? Or am I missing something?



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23 Dec 2020, 12:40 pm

↑ In simpler terms, it seems as if Trump is implying "I will sign this Coronavirus Relief Bill if Congress will override the Electoral College and the majority of voters to keep me on as President for at least another 4 years.  Otherwise, you are all going to look like 'Bad Guys' for blocking my efforts to give more money than you are willing to give to every American who needs it."

This looks like a political application of General Sherman's "Scorched-Earth" policy to Trump's retreat from the White House -- if he cannot have his way, he is going to ruin the government for everybody.

28 days, 1 hour, and 50 minutes left in Donald J. Trump's one and only term of office.


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23 Dec 2020, 4:00 pm

I’d rather go hungry and temporarily live in a tent on the side of the highway than give trump one more second in office. Kick him out! And even better: Lock him up! Lock him up! :lol: F that guy! 8)


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23 Dec 2020, 4:04 pm

 

TRE45ON!!



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23 Dec 2020, 4:44 pm

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goldfish21 wrote:
I’d rather go hungry and temporarily live in a tent on the side of the highway than give trump one more second in office. Kick him out! And even better: Lock him up! Lock him up! :lol: F that guy! 8)

So sad he can’t share a cell with his buddy Epstein.


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23 Dec 2020, 7:18 pm

Pentagon anxiety rises as officers wait for Trump's next unpredictable move

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It's like a low murmur just below the surface. "We don't know what he might do," says one officer in the Pentagon. "We are in strange times," says another officer. Some senior military officers are trying to steer clear of the White House for the next month, rather than be in the President Donald Trump's orbit.

With just some 30 days to go before the US military watches its current commander in chief leave office, there is growing anxiety in the ranks about what Trump might do in these remaining days. Will the President order some unexpected military action, such as a strike on Iran, or will he somehow draw the military into his efforts to overthrow the election results?
It's a troubling enough scenario that military leaders have taken the unusual step of publicly stating that they will not play a role in deciding an American election.

CNN has spoken to nearly a dozen currently serving officers either in senior roles or with direct knowledge of how senior commanders feel right now. Not all are in the Pentagon.

No one will allow their names to be used. Currently serving military personnel are not allowed to speak against the president of the United States -- but opinions are divided. Some say don't talk about it, it only fuels the fire. Others say drag the quiet talk into the sunshine of public debate.

Concerns have been rising since Trump fired Defense Secretary Mark Esper last month and replaced him with acting Secretary Chris Miller, then proceeded to install political loyalists in key civilian positions.

One officer said people are making "lists" of everything they can think of that the President might do. Several worry there could be a round of firings or forced resignations of more Pentagon officials, including top military officers.

Until a few days ago, these conversations might have been avoided. But last Friday night, by all accounts, the idea of using the military to change the election outcome reached directly into the Oval Office.

Powell advocates the federal government seizing and inspecting voting machines. In a Newsmax video posted on social media a few days before the White House meeting, Flynn, once head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, with access to the greatest military secrets, raised the prospect of martial law, though he carefully said he doesn't advocate it. But he also suggested the President could take "military capabilities" and "rerun" the election in swing states.

It's not clear Trump accepted any of the ideas, and top civilian aides are reported to have pushed back. No military officers are known to have been present.

Trump later tweeted "Martial law = Fake News. Just more knowingly bad reporting!"

A day after Flynn's Newsmax video aired, Gen. James McConville, the Army chief of staff, and Ryan McCarthy, the Army secretary and a Trump appointee, issued a terse statement saying, "There is no role for the U.S. military in determining the outcome of an American election."

Several military officials tell CNN that for the remainder of his term, if Trump issues any orders, the key will be whether they are determined to be legal. If they are not legal, and the President cannot be talked out of potential illegal orders, it could raise difficult questions about what senior military leaders do next.

If they are legal -- even if distasteful -- they will be followed. If they are not legal, and the President cannot be talked out of them, the situation could raise dire questions about whether senior military leaders feel they can stay on the job.


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23 Dec 2020, 7:43 pm

Misslizard wrote:
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goldfish21 wrote:
I’d rather go hungry and temporarily live in a tent on the side of the highway than give trump one more second in office. Kick him out! And even better: Lock him up! Lock him up! :lol: F that guy! 8)

So sad he can’t share a cell with his buddy Epstein.


Oh well, maybe him and Bill Clinton can share a cell in the friends of Jeffrey wing.


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23 Dec 2020, 7:47 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
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goldfish21 wrote:
I’d rather go hungry and temporarily live in a tent on the side of the highway than give trump one more second in office. Kick him out! And even better: Lock him up! Lock him up! :lol: F that guy! 8)

So sad he can’t share a cell with his buddy Epstein.


Oh well, maybe him and Bill Clinton can share a cell in the friends of Jeffrey wing.

And they have to fight, gladiator style.It will be on pay-per-view and the funds raised go to covid relief.


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23 Dec 2020, 9:54 pm

Even Nixon, as his Presidency was coming to an end, never acted so deranged as Trump is now. All Tricky Dick did was get drunk and talk to the portraits of past Presidents.


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23 Dec 2020, 10:14 pm

I'm gonna miss this circus when he leaves the White House. :(


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23 Dec 2020, 10:28 pm

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Even Nixon, as his Presidency was coming to an end, never acted so deranged as Trump is now. All Tricky Dick did was get drunk and talk to the portraits of past Presidents.

Poor Checkers probably felt slighted.


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23 Dec 2020, 10:44 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Even Nixon, as his Presidency was coming to an end, never acted so deranged as Trump is now. All Tricky Dick did was get drunk and talk to the portraits of past Presidents.

Poor Checkers probably felt slighted.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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23 Dec 2020, 10:48 pm

League_Girl wrote:
I'm gonna miss this circus when he leaves the White House. :(


Not me!

I waste WAY too much time watching this clown show train wreck. It’ll be very liberating when there’s no more trump crap to distract my attention from real life. 8)


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23 Dec 2020, 11:34 pm

I have a feeling threads and posts about Trump are going to continue for many more months.



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23 Dec 2020, 11:39 pm

League_Girl wrote:
I'm gonna miss this circus when he leaves the White House. :(


The circus will continue on the sidelines as I don't see any GOP politicians daring to oppose the MAGAs. Trump or one of his spawn will continue the charade like sideshow bob.

His daughter Ivanka has already switched to MAGA mode indicating she is ready to take over the cult.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/05/poli ... index.html



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23 Dec 2020, 11:50 pm

See what I mean?