12 Jan 2021, 9:38 pm
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13 Jan 2021, 1:46 am
13 Jan 2021, 2:40 am
Jiheisho wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Antisemitism in the antebellum american south was no worse than the antisemitism of the antebellum northern US, and that of both sections was probably less than the antisemitism of any country in Europe in the 19th Century.
So if you take the confederate flag as being just that...representing the south, or the confederacy, then it makes no sense to stick it on a Jewish museum.
However, burning a cross on the front lawn of a synagogue does have meaning, because the KKK was antisemitic, anti White immigrant, and anti Catholic, as well as being anti Black.
You could equate a confederate flag with a cross burning. But folks who wave the Confederate flag today claim it represents "heritage not hate". So...if you are a hoodlum who sticks flags onto properties you gotta make up your mind....which IS it...heritage, or hate? Ya cant have it both ways. So if it's heritage, then ...use the stars and bars for Black properties, and use the swastika for Jewish properties.
I mean...the literacy level of hoodlums and vandals these days just isnt what it used to be!
So if you take the confederate flag as being just that...representing the south, or the confederacy, then it makes no sense to stick it on a Jewish museum.
However, burning a cross on the front lawn of a synagogue does have meaning, because the KKK was antisemitic, anti White immigrant, and anti Catholic, as well as being anti Black.
You could equate a confederate flag with a cross burning. But folks who wave the Confederate flag today claim it represents "heritage not hate". So...if you are a hoodlum who sticks flags onto properties you gotta make up your mind....which IS it...heritage, or hate? Ya cant have it both ways. So if it's heritage, then ...use the stars and bars for Black properties, and use the swastika for Jewish properties.
I mean...the literacy level of hoodlums and vandals these days just isnt what it used to be!
Seriously? So if the flag is not a symbol of antisemitism in this case, what are the alternative meanings? A celebration of heritage?
You might be interested in these:
Hebrew Benevolent Congregation bombing
List of attacks on Jewish institutions in the United States
Thats my point!
It doesnt mean anything. Its a "celeberation" of ineptitude on the part of the perpetrator.
Okay...in Germany it's actually against the law to display a Nazi flag with a swastika. So in Germany neo-Nazi skin heads do indeed use the flag of the American Confederacy as a legal stand in for the Nazi flag. So if it were Germany the message would be loud and clear because the S+B would be taken as a stand in for a swastika. But in America it's legal to go around with swastika flags. So to put a confederate flag on a synagogue is just throwing a confusing curveball at any audience that your trying send a hate message to. So to me it's just laughable.
But I guess that I am old fashioned.
13 Jan 2021, 3:03 am
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13 Jan 2021, 3:04 am
naturalplastic wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Antisemitism in the antebellum american south was no worse than the antisemitism of the antebellum northern US, and that of both sections was probably less than the antisemitism of any country in Europe in the 19th Century.
So if you take the confederate flag as being just that...representing the south, or the confederacy, then it makes no sense to stick it on a Jewish museum.
However, burning a cross on the front lawn of a synagogue does have meaning, because the KKK was antisemitic, anti White immigrant, and anti Catholic, as well as being anti Black.
You could equate a confederate flag with a cross burning. But folks who wave the Confederate flag today claim it represents "heritage not hate". So...if you are a hoodlum who sticks flags onto properties you gotta make up your mind....which IS it...heritage, or hate? Ya cant have it both ways. So if it's heritage, then ...use the stars and bars for Black properties, and use the swastika for Jewish properties.
I mean...the literacy level of hoodlums and vandals these days just isnt what it used to be!
So if you take the confederate flag as being just that...representing the south, or the confederacy, then it makes no sense to stick it on a Jewish museum.
However, burning a cross on the front lawn of a synagogue does have meaning, because the KKK was antisemitic, anti White immigrant, and anti Catholic, as well as being anti Black.
You could equate a confederate flag with a cross burning. But folks who wave the Confederate flag today claim it represents "heritage not hate". So...if you are a hoodlum who sticks flags onto properties you gotta make up your mind....which IS it...heritage, or hate? Ya cant have it both ways. So if it's heritage, then ...use the stars and bars for Black properties, and use the swastika for Jewish properties.
I mean...the literacy level of hoodlums and vandals these days just isnt what it used to be!
Seriously? So if the flag is not a symbol of antisemitism in this case, what are the alternative meanings? A celebration of heritage?
You might be interested in these:
Hebrew Benevolent Congregation bombing
List of attacks on Jewish institutions in the United States
Thats my point!
It doesnt mean anything. Its a "celeberation" of ineptitude on the part of the perpetrator.
Okay...in Germany it's actually against the law to display a Nazi flag with a swastika. So in Germany neo-Nazi skin heads do indeed use the flag of the American Confederacy as a legal stand in for the Nazi flag. So if it were Germany the message would be loud and clear because the S+B would be taken as a stand in for a swastika. But in America it's legal to go around with swastika flags. So to put a confederate flag on a synagogue is just throwing a confusing curveball at any audience that your trying send a hate message to. So to me it's just laughable.
But I guess that I am old fashioned.
Not so much old fashioned as too focused on originalism. Because the confederacy wasn't focused on antisemitism it makes no sense to use 'their symbol' for that cause while ignoring that it's not just their symbol, it's also a symbol of the current era white supremacist movement and in that context it makes perfect sense to use it for their causes.
