China breaching every article in genocide convention

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That was a good explanation, thanks!

I go away for a few days and this thread drops off the page
Why are people not outraged??

We all have already been outraged by their treatment of Tibet for last fifty years. Fat lot a good it did.

What do you want us all to do? Pressure Biden to start a nuclear world war three?

Boycott China? Ninety nine percent of everything sold in your mall is made in China. Trump already had a failed trade war with China.

Maybe we could persuade Iran and the Saudies to stop fighting each other and to join forces and lead the whole Muslim world in a jihad against China to save the Muslim Uigars. Other than that ...what do you suggest?

Or cause China to continue to oppress the Uighurs with renewed zeal, being certain that they are in the right.

I'm trying to think how to respond to naturalplastic.
It's true I have no easy solutions, but I feel strongly that ignoring the issue is the wrong approach.

I might try a personal story:

A long time ago I married a man who, at the time, was good for me in many ways. He was extremely self-confident, unafraid to do whatever he wanted. Some of his confidence brushed off on me, helping me to move halfway around the world, to secure employment, and to have kids. We made a good team.

He always thought of himself as "the boss" in the relationship, and expected me to acquiesce to his wishes. There was never any compromise; it was his way or the highway. For many years, I allowed him to take the lead, knowing that he wanted the best for us both. I hated arguments, so when he got angry I would often retreat and appease.

As the kids were growing up, the way he was interacting with them threw up what I now know should have been huge red flags. Our son was never good enough and constantly criticised and belittled. Our daughter, on the other hand, was heaped with praise, she was the 'golden child'. With my children's emotional development at stake I became more willing to confront my husband and stand my ground. Any time I disagreed with him, he fought back with week-long silences, snide remarks about me to the neighbours, and deliberate actions that he knew infuriated me. He stopped helping around the house, leaving it all to me (though I was working full time also) - yet felt free to criticise my every move, from the way I washed the dishes to how much money I wasted on cage-free eggs.

When my children entered their teenage years, it became clear that their mental health was suffering. My son became silent and withdrawn; my daughter (who abruptly lost golden child status as puberty hit) became borderline anorexic and tried to overdose on paracetomol at the age of 12. I belatedly realised that husband ticked all the boxes of a controlling and narcissistic personality. But by then, our lives were so entangled, from the joint bank account to the joint ownership of the house, that I was stuck, trapped.

After my daughter's attempted overdose, we were recommended family therapy. Naively, I actually thought this might help. I thought the therapists would see what was going on and somehow rescue us from his emotional abuse. Instead, I watched as they were completely taken in, charmed by his outgoing confidence as the rest of us sat silently, afraid of broaching our real troubles for fear of the backlash that would follow once we left.

Eventually, I did leave him - and spent a year watching my back in case he turned up in a violent rage. Hello, anxiety disorder. Several years down the track, the kids and I are still working through mental fallout. But I still say, leaving was the best thing I ever did.

I know this is all way off topic. This week has been triggering for me in all kinds of ways, and it was on my mind.
But what I'm trying to say is this:

If there is one country out there which is clearly behaving in a controlling and narcissistic manner, it is China. And appeasement is no solution. Unchecked narcissism gets worse and worse and worse. They will take whatever power they can and keep on taking.

Maybe an outcry over a terrible injustice would lead to war.
Of course, I certainly don't wish for war.
But would it? Maybe it would lead to change.

Above all, as women in Australia have been crying out this week, those who ignore and do not call out wrong behaviour are enabling it to continue.
Sometimes, silence is a crime.

China and Russia are very comfortable with breaking human rights because i) they are economically influential and nobody wants a trade war and ii) because of MAD (Mutually assured destruction) will ensure nobody declares war on them.

Last edited by Cornflake on 20 Mar 2021, 6:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.: Fixed broken quoting

Why? Serious question.

Ah... nothing related to this topic.
Just an explanation why I was feeling a bit sensitive, hence the long and personal response to naturalplastic's comment

The purpose of a discussion forum is to open dialogue and exchange ideas. I think if topics have the words "genocide" in them and you are prone to being triggered it might be a good idea not to read the content.

It's like a person who is triggered/offended by gratuitous sex choosing to walk into a Adult shop and wondering why they feel suddenly feel repulsed.

I understand (and have been reminded countless occasions) that this is an autism friendly space (and I respect this) but please also respect other people's right to discuss content that is current, not vilifying anyone and in the news or of importance to them.

I think hundreds of threads get locked unnecessarily because somebody decides they no longer like the content and claim they are triggered.

Please don't read if you feel the content will cause you distress.

Er... if that was aimed at me, apologies if I came across too strongly in my response to naturalplastic.
No intent to vilify or anything.
I got triggered by things happening outside the forum which affected my response. Probably should have waited until I was feeling better.

No MrsPeel, I should have qualified my point - I was going off on a rant. It was a general caution to avoid threads that might trigger. I was thinking of people who are depressed or suicidal. Not you.

It was good to see in the recent US-China talks that the US side was not willing to take any BS.

Everything in life is a trade-off.

The more the US pushes, the more China retaliates.

Well, since then:

- China has signed a 25-year military & trade deal with Iran worth $ 400 billion
- China has shut down the sales of several European clothing brands in China
- The US has made some public statements
- The US has invited some people to some meetings

Israel is no longer an enemy for many Arab countries though.

But they want to maintain good relations with China, everyone does.