Another Casualty of the Cancel Culture

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Yeah, I thought we noticed that earlier.




You're a rare example of someone who isn't a hypocrite on this issue but you still end up carrying water for people who had no problem with the Hays Code or other right-wing censorship.

I know you're trying to avoid hypocrisy but you're enabling hypocrites who are happy to use people like you to honestly advance their dishonest agenda.

Those pre-Hays Code films were great!

Just re-affirming the obvious.

It is not often that my opinions coincide with those of another person.

Yeah and not risque in any way by modern standards. The Hays Code seem silly, today.

That doesn't concern me in the least.

Just for reference, I was meaning a similar thing to you but with slightly milder words

I know that feeling well.

Even among people I find more agreeable there's still often lots of room for smaller disagreements over framing, importance, etc.

I believe in standing up to bullies....from all sides of the political spectrum.....

It seems like there's a good chunk of people on here who can recognize cancel culture as being yet another right wing conspiracy theory like cultural Marxism.

Again.....read up on the "Cultural Revolution" in China.

See how "re-education" efforts led to the deaths of millions. The Communist Red Guards (who were youthful members of the Communist Party of China back in the 1960s) believed so strongly in their ideology----that they allowed millions of people to die for it.

The "left" desires to suppress history----like the "right" desires to suppress the rights of humans.

This sets a bad precedent. This sort of stuff leads to totalitarianism.

What Trump sought to do in screwing with our Constitution, his attempts to suppress the press and to have the Georgia Election Commission "come up with votes"......is not too dissimilar to what relatively radical "Woke" folks seek to do when they desire to suppress ideas.

Two sides of the same coin, to me.....

Criticizing terrible ideas is the same as trying to steal an election? Would you care to expand upon this idea?

Like I said....two sides of the same coin.

"Wokeness" does criticize "terrible ideas." And that's laudable, obviously.

But it sometimes goes too far in its attribution of "terrible ideas" to things which are at least mostly innocent of being "terrible ideas."

I don't believe calling an SUV a "Cherokee" is derogatory to the Cherokees. It's sort of racist----but it's also an acknowledgement of their power. Saying this, I respect the rights of the Cherokees to seek to have Jeep get rid of the Cherokee name.

Al Franken grabbed someone on the butt 30 years ago. He's admitted he's an a**hole for it. But he's reformed since then, and he regrets what he did. Why did he have to resign from the Senate for grabbing someone on the butt 30 years ago?

I just feel that many people overdo it....and I feel like this will prove to be harmful in the end.

How often does the left actually go too far and how often is it one or two leftist activists expressing an opinion that is an outlier that ends up having no impact on anything? Sometimes even an incorrect opinion helps refocus conversation and causes people to reevaluate their perspective.



Whether or not it's derogatory it's their name and their property to licence or not licence. Jeep shouldn't be using it without explicit consent.

If the Cherokee started making a their own truck and called it the Cherokee Jeep Chrysler would seek an injunction to stop the name from being used, why should the company that owns Chrysler get to use someone else's name without permission for their truck?



Al Franken chose to resign because his actions harmed his credibility among the people he needed to vote for him. Unlike the other party his base really does take allegations of sexual assault and harassment seriously.

I believe some people greatly play up the importance of social puritans to drive an agenda and that other people fall for and keep espousing that perspective sincerely, but without realizing that they've been fooled into worrying about a problem that doesn't actually exist to the extent the guys like Tucker beating the cancel culture war drum claim.

Basically it's an example of what seems to be you prioritizing a hypothetical issue over real issues just because the hypothetical one could potentially be an issue if it existed as described.

It all seems to be about entitlement, the things that they consider important deserve to retain that importance without ever being questioned. Criticism of these things, no matter how mildly, regardless of if the criticism will be largely rejected is invalidated as cancel culture to avoid having to listen to the conversation that will result.

The end result is a portion of society will cut itself off from these conversations and ignore any changes, instead becoming more reactionary and hostile to change which will lead to these people being more likely to end up sympathizing with the reactionaries pushing this agenda.

That's why it's so worrying to hear some older centrists, liberals and progressives falling for it. It's worrying in the same way QAnon being repackaged for the yoga crowd is worrying.