Anti-vaxers: "We will find you"

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My Body My Choice.

He has you there, Kortie.  Some choose life, some choose death, and no one can force which choice to make.

Anti vaccine mandate protesters stage eat in at Staten Island, NY food court
https://youtu.be/PL49_gvCXbE

And in responce to the claim the vaccine was from God:

Source: https://babylonbee.com/news/new-york-atheists-claim-religious-exemption-from-vaccine-after-governors-claim-that-its-from-god

To be fair to Kathy, she never said which god. Maybe it was the god of this world; Lucifer.

if a pregnant woman said that about her own body, i'm sure you'd agree wholeheartedly.

I’m sure a lot of people have been put in an awkward position when it comes to this phrase. I was just having a conversation with a friend about this. I understand it all gets complicated by vested public interest and all that, but we both agreed that no one should be forcing anyone to do something with their body they do not wish to.

That does not, however, mean that people can never be confronted with the costs of that choice, such as losing a job. Yet even then, the default should be choice, and no further requirements without strongly compelling reasons supported by science.

It is always easy to argue why what you personally want is different. But we are supposed to be a nation that values freedom, and we need to do our very best to live together safely and in peace while still honoring that. That happens best one on one, person to person, finding balances that work for each unique situation.

No one ever said getting to the best answers would be easy.

Have you noticed how the people wailing about the burden of Covid on hospitals are often oddly silent about the burden of shedding and blacklisting sizeable chunks of the hospitals workforce.

Have you noticed how many stupid people are refusing a life-saving vaccine because they do not like to be told what to do?

No, most of the reluctant are reluctant because they no longer trust the health authorities.
It wasn't Twitter, or Facebook that did that, it was nonsense like this.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-23/ ... /100316092

The Prime minister has no medical qualifications.
So when he goes and blatantly inserts himself into the drug approval process then the public trust in such institutions, plummets.

... because of erroneous information which is passed over various media -- misinformation and outright lies spread by anti-vaxx, anti-science, anti-mask, and anti-mandate losers on Facebook and Instagram, as well as by Donald Trump (and his followers), evangelical leaders, far-right radio personalities, and Republican Senators.

"The government is lying, covid isn't real, you can't trust the government, you can't believe the government, they just lie for their own benefit, they'd do anything to maintain power, they'll use whatever they can to control people, they'll divide us and keep us fighting among ourselves!! !"

So institutional racism isn't really THAT far-fetched, since that's merely another form government lying and control, which keeps people fighting with each other, right?

"HEY HEY HEY hey heyyyyyy, let's not go making wild assumptions about the government, they wouldn't do something like THAT, racism isn't real, The Totally Noble Government totally ended slavery cos fairness and the american way!"

So the evil american lying government will do anything to control people and maintain power, including lying cheating and murdering, but RACISM is a bridge-too-far, and they'd NEVER do something like that?

C'mon now. This isn't a Meatloaf song, where they'd do anything for love power, but they won't do THAT. But please, don't let real-world consistency of ideology ruin your "clever" meme retort.

As convenient as it is to just say "all politicians are lying!", the reality is there are 50 senators, over 500 representatives, and thousands of thousands of people working for the federal and state government, most of them ordinary people, and to say they're all lying is either / both a major disservice to plenty of honest and hardworking people, or more a reflection of your own cynicism rather than the actual state of the world.

Cos yeah, I'm sure that the former president and his horde spending all day every day literally telling people not to trust the health authorities had no effect on people's desire to trust the health authorities.

I'm too lazy to meme right now, but picture the meme of the sweating guy choosing between two buttons.

(Never trust the government!)

(Trust the government when it says NOT to trust the government!)

"You can't trust the government!"

How do you know?

"President Trump and Senator Ted Cruz said so! Mitch McConnel agrees!"

Riiiiiiiiight...

But, y'know, "don't trust the government" - (except when they say so...)

Not that you're even beholden to, or live under the control of, the government you take such delight in criticizing.

But please, continue. It's entertaining.

When people got sick/died from letting the government inject them with experimental anthrax vaccinations, did anyone think, "what were these idiots thinking?"

What about people who die every year from flu vaccinations?

What about people who died from COVID vaccinations?

What about Tuskegee "good blood" shots?

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't stop him from punching himself in the face repeatedly to own the libs.

That's mass stupidity at its finest. I wouldn't have a problem with it if it were just people who recognize they're making a choice and accept all the consequences that come with it, such as not going out. I would hope they wouldn't be in positions in fields such as health care, but I otherwise support their right to a source of income.

No, it's people who don't do what they're told who I have a problem with. They're the reason we're even still in this stupid pandemic. Heck, in my region they've crossed the line from annoying to immoral. They've been storming schools (and really upsetting kids), and even assembling in front of hospitals and blocking the way for ambulances. There are now going to be new laws that prohibit such actions, and I wholeheartedly support that because I'm done with these people. I tried to see things from their perspective, but I'm done with that. They need to be knocked down several...hundred pegs. If there was ever a group that just needs to shut up, it's them.

Normally, I'd agree, but nurses are people who work with others at a time when they're vulnerable, and can pose a huge risk for them. Laws are being put in place where I live that mandates they get vaccinated, along with anyone else in the health care field if they wish to continue to hold their position, and I 100% support that. If they still don't want the vaccine, there are plenty of other jobs they can apply for where they won't be a risk to the public while this pandemic is being dealt with.