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Putin lied through his teeth throughout the "lead-up" to the Invasion.....during....and after.

He lied in a similar manner to Trump. He lied when the Truth was staring him in the face.

When it comes to "Russian-friendly" sources, their relationship with the reality is this: https://www.euronews.com/2022/03/10/ukr ... ing-kuleba
"Russia did not attack Ukraine", says Lavrov on March 10th.

With all respect, there's an ocean of difference between biased information and outright lies.
Russian officials are presenting the latter.

There's disagreement between me and my husband... I would like to send the kids away and join the territorial defense. I'm no soldier but I learn quickly, I have skills for repairs and improvisation and very good (tested!) fear-handling.
And I don't mind mundane jobs like peeling potatoes, too.

My suspicion is that Russia might continue to bomb targets just to the east of the Polish border as sort of a "bluff move"----but that a full invasion beyond Ukraine is exceedingly unlikely.

I don't believe NATO would stand for it. I certainly hope they don't allow this to happen.

The Russians are barely able to make inroads in Ukraine, no less elsewhere. They are like the Keystone Kops.

I'd like to see a photo of Magz in her fatigues

Or Trump is lying through his teeth about his knowledge of Putin's intentions with Ukraine.

Which do you think is more likely?

Brownish green is "my" color

But, more seriously, I hope this has some practical meaning, at least for the next few months:

And, in broader perspective, we need to prepare for the next decades to go.

Magz ironically proving what I just said about wartime lies and distortions. Even without speaking Russian and digging into the original sources you should be able to guess that has almost certainly been taken out of context or lost in translation, unless you believe he is literally barking mad.

"We do not plan to attack other countries; we did not attack Ukraine either. However, we just explained to Ukraine repeatedly that a situation posed direct security threats to the Russian Federation," he said.

Sounds to me like he was saying it was not unprovoked, a defensive action - which is true from the perspective of anyone who understands the Ukrainian situation beyond the headlines. I do wonder what the original language used was. Particularly what verb was used for "attack Ukraine".

Russia was never under any "threat" from NATO.

Putin was just looking for an excuse to seek to bring Ukraine into the Russian orbit.

In 1962 the U.S. was never under any "threat" from the Soviet Union.

Kennedy was just looking for an excuse to keep Cuba isolated and defenceless against a US invasion.

Russia was playing nuclear games during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

NATO never plays those games. It's Russia who brings up the subject of nukes----putting his troops on "high alert" in the nuclear sense.

Their expansion eastwards and intended expansion into Ukraine, planting anti-ICBM detectors and countermeasures, is playing a nuclear game, kraftie, even if they don't yell it from the rooftops.

He's not barking mad.
He's blatantly lying.

And I do understand Ukrainian situation well beyond headlines. And I do understand Russia well beyond the headlines. I've been in both, I have family ties to both, I have friends from both, I drank with people, I know what they have to say and what feelings they express.

It is simple. Russians want to rebuild their empire. Not just Putin, a random guy on the train, too.
And Russian officials don't have any problem with making big lies. Study history of Russia and you'll see it, too.

That's why negotiations-and-treaty-based "Western" world can't handle them safely.

I'm not against the "Russian state" at all. I attribute all this to Putin having some crazy revelation about Ukrainians being recalcitrant Russians. About a "Great Russia" consisting of Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians.

If Putin would have just left well enough alone, I believe the the peacetime Russian state----albeit even with the autocratic, "normal" Putin----would have become a somewhat viable state.

Now, Russia is going to revert back to the dark days of the USSR. To say he "shot himself in the foot" is a gross understatement.

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To the Orthodox Russian, a lie is both an abomination before the Lord and an ever present help in times of trouble.

Are you aware of Russian Patriarch Ciril's position on the war?
That's beyond... anything I'm capable of naming.

Kirill claims that he is the Patriarch of Moscow and "all 'Rus." That sort of says it all.

Not realizing that " 'Rus," actually, was originally the Kyivian State, well before the emergence of Muscovy.

This means that he considers Ukraine, automatically, under inevitable and absolute Russian suzerainty.