BBC won't broadcast episode over fear of rightwing backlash

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12 Mar 2023, 5:16 am

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Labour and Farage must be loving this as it will polarise opinion to the left or right and either way make the tories look incompetant.


I really hope it'll go to the left! Imagine Farage as PM! 8O


People said the same thing about Trump in 2015


Argh! The mind boggles :evil:


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12 Mar 2023, 5:18 am

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Making a mental note of this post. If NF becomes PM , all of the UK members are going to flay you alive. :P


Erm, why? Are they all Farage fans? I hope not! But it would explain a lot about the current state of the UK if they were :x


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12 Mar 2023, 5:20 am

Rossall wrote:
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Labour and Farage must be loving this as it will polarise opinion to the left or right and either way make the tories look incompetant.


I really hope it'll go to the left! Imagine Farage as PM! 8O
Thanks to our FPTP voting system Farage won't get a single MP. :)

Personally I can't stand the bloke.


Gosh I hope you are right, although it's the FPTP voting system that got the Tories into government in the first place...

We need Proportional Representation like most European countries :idea:


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12 Mar 2023, 9:20 am

Recidivist wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
KitLily wrote:
Rossall wrote:
Labour and Farage must be loving this as it will polarise opinion to the left or right and either way make the tories look incompetant.


I really hope it'll go to the left! Imagine Farage as PM! 8O


People said the same thing about Trump in 2015


Making a mental note of this post. If NF becomes PM , all of the UK members are going to flay you alive. :P

Well, not all of the UK members.

I'm glad there aren't any Nigel Farage supporters in this thread. :)


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12 Mar 2023, 10:09 am

It's scary to think anyone supports that Farage person isn't it. Ugh. If the Tory government falling leads to a direct choice between rightwing Farage and leftwing Starmer, I hope we don't get that 52:48 divide again.


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12 Mar 2023, 10:32 am

I don't think they would be that wound up about it but I never take captain air miles aka David, seriously anyway.

He's got the carbon footprint of a small nation and moans about everyone's carbon footprint.



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12 Mar 2023, 11:08 am

KitLily wrote:
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Making a mental note of this peeost. If NF becomes PM , all of the UK members are going to flay you alive. :P


Erm, why? Are they all Farage fans? I hope not! But it would explain a lot about the current state of the UK if they were :x



No, the opposite, I'm guessing there are no NF fans and will take their ire out on Cyberdad for calling it.


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12 Mar 2023, 11:11 am

Where_am_I wrote:
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cyberdad wrote:
KitLily wrote:
Rossall wrote:
Labour and Farage must be loving this as it will polarise opinion to the left or right and either way make the tories look incompetant.


I really hope it'll go to the left! Imagine Farage as PM! 8O


People said the same thing about Trump in 2015


Making a mental note of this post. If NF becomes PM , all of the UK members are going to flay you alive. :P

Well, not all of the UK members.

I'm glad there aren't any Nigel Farage supporters in this thread. :)


Well there's no accounting for the criminally insane :lol:


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12 Mar 2023, 11:16 am

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People just have no critical thinking skills anymore because their minds are full of celebrities and media nonsense. It really, really is like that film Don't Look Up. Everyone is so distracted by their phones and entertainment that they don't notice the disaster til it hits them.


There's a graphic novel called "Livestock" by Hannah Berry from about six years ago. It imagines Britain as a one-party state where the Government controls celebrities in order to micromanage the news cycle, even to the extent of making them kill each other when they really need a distraction. This feels less like science fiction by the minute. I also start to wonder if that's why certain murder or missing person cases blow up into a huge media circus, while dozens if not hundreds of similar cases every year are just completely ignored by the media.


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12 Mar 2023, 5:04 pm

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https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/10/david-attenborough-bbc-wild-isles-episode-rightwing-backlash-fears?CMP=share_btn_tw

"The BBC has decided not to broadcast an episode of David Attenborough’s flagship new series on British wildlife because of fears its themes of the destruction of nature would risk a backlash from Tory politicians and the rightwing press, the Guardian has been told."

(FYI David Attenborough is a nature presenter and expert who has studied and shown us the natural world for decades, a well trusted and knowledgeable man.)

That is bizarre. An open admission that the BBC is prioritising rightwing feelings over facts about our planet Earth. Now I know for sure that the BBC is not independent anymore.

I can't get my head round how the environment has become political. Nature isn't left or rightwing, it just is.


That claim in that Guardian article that the BBC cancelled a David Attenborough programme through fears of a right-wing backlash is so obviously complete nonsense.

As the article itself admits towards the end, the series that the BBC commissioned from Silverback Films was always only intended to be a five-part series. Two charities then later commissioned Silverback Films to make a separate film, which is now available on BBC iPlayer.

The idea that there would even be much of a right-wing backlash over a documentary about a topic as relatively uncontroversial as rewilding is ridiculous, let alone the idea that the BBC would let fear of such a thing dictate whether or not they decided to show it.

There are lots of conservatives who support rewilding. One of the most prominent supporters of rewilding in the UK is the Tory MP Zac Goldsmith, who is the current Minister of State for Asia, Energy, Climate and Environment. Most other conservatives and right-wingers are probably apathetic about the issue. So where are these right-wing pressure groups the BBC is running in fear from? What are these right-wingers going to do that the BBC is so scared of?

The Guardian desperately wants its readers to believe there's some right-wing boogeyman out there cancelling leftists, so they've taken one anodyne article by the Telegraph (raising questions over the BBC's funding) and some unnamed sources (how convenient) and ran with a story that is complete BS.

Unlike some on the right, I am generally in favour of fighting fire with fire, and getting leftists 'cancelled'. But that's not what's happened here.

Come on, get real.



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12 Mar 2023, 5:29 pm

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Is this some of that "cancel culture" I've heard so much about?


Yep. The right wingers complain that they are being cancelled, yet all I've seen is them cancelling other people they don't agree with.


Your Tories and my Tories have so much in common. :lol:


Yes, disagree with them and you mysteriously lose your job. :roll: That is not good when you aren't allowed to disagree with your government is it.


It’s even worse in America. I’ve been fired from jobs for exposing an issue, then proposing a solution. In short, you’re a dumb contractor employee who knows nothing, and the employer is the expert who provides you with a weekly paycheck. Just keep your mouth shut and give a sh!t-eating grin…



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13 Mar 2023, 2:23 am

KitLily wrote:
It's scary to think anyone supports that Farage person isn't it. Ugh. If the Tory government falling leads to a direct choice between rightwing Farage and leftwing Starmer, I hope we don't get that 52:48 divide again.


Farage thinks he has a mandate after Brexit



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13 Mar 2023, 2:50 am

WTF I cannot believe the BBC would choose right wingers over David Attenborough, what a freaking slap in the face.

Unbelievable.


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13 Mar 2023, 6:23 am

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That claim in that Guardian article that the BBC cancelled a David Attenborough programme through fears of a right-wing backlash is so obviously complete nonsense.

The Guardian desperately wants its readers to believe there's some right-wing boogeyman out there cancelling leftists, .


I'm a lifelong Labour voter who voted for Corbyn and also voted to remain, I wouldn't be voting that way now. As things stand I intend to sit the next election out. The last two and a half years have been a real wake up call as to how nasty and disingenuous the left actually are, basically using weaponised compassion to deliver some impossible puppy dogs and rainbows dream cooked up in a student with daddy issue's bedsit with no thought given to consequences.

The right do not care about the poor but the hatred and disdain from the left for the working class is now palpable.

That's not to say there are not serious issues and challenges ahead related to climate and the environment, but we're on a much darker path now that will render green issues a mere sideshow. Some people will only learn the hard way and sadly they will take everyone else down with them to eventually learn the lesson when it's too late.