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01 May 2023, 9:19 am

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Yea, this.

Nothing I said is transphobic in the least bit. And I am not transphobic. I have several trans friends and acquaintances as well as trans friends with benefits. Def not transphobic here in the least bit.


Some ppl think if you have a trans friend it means you are transphobic.
I kid you not. 8O

That’s just stupid.


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01 May 2023, 10:18 am

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If she were a left-wing-leaning trans woman, ANY attack for whatever reason would be labelled "transphobic".
THAT was my point. ;)


This might be "the Truth™" but it certainly isn't true.


The Truth is: You can't speak for ALL ppl.


I don't recall ever suggesting that I do. :lol:


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01 May 2023, 8:47 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Yea, this.

Nothing I said is transphobic in the least bit. And I am not transphobic. I have several trans friends and acquaintances as well as trans friends with benefits. Def not transphobic here in the least bit.


Some ppl think if you have a trans friend it means you are transphobic.
I kid you not. 8O

That’s just stupid.


Oh, lordy! 8O
Again we agree on something. :mrgreen:



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01 May 2023, 9:00 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Yea, this.

Nothing I said is transphobic in the least bit. And I am not transphobic. I have several trans friends and acquaintances as well as trans friends with benefits. Def not transphobic here in the least bit.


Some ppl think if you have a trans friend it means you are transphobic.
I kid you not. 8O

That’s just stupid.


It sounds like a misunderstanding of how people dismiss the I have x friends excuse when accused of bigotry.

Having x friends doesn't make one a bigot, but hiding behind them when accused of bigotry deserves to be called out.


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01 May 2023, 10:04 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Yea, this.

Nothing I said is transphobic in the least bit. And I am not transphobic. I have several trans friends and acquaintances as well as trans friends with benefits. Def not transphobic here in the least bit.


Some ppl think if you have a trans friend it means you are transphobic.
I kid you not. 8O

That’s just stupid.


It sounds like a misunderstanding of how people dismiss the I have x friends excuse when accused of bigotry.

Having x friends doesn't make one a bigot, but hiding behind them when accused of bigotry deserves to be called out.


But what if they aren't hiding behind the gay friend, and the other person is simply misrepresenting them? :scratch:

I have been accused of being homophobic despite having a gay friend since we were children.
Perhaps I cultivated this friendship 55 years ago only to use it as a defence against being accused now.
I'm smart, but I don't think I am THAT smart. :mrgreen:



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01 May 2023, 10:25 pm

Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Yea, this.

Nothing I said is transphobic in the least bit. And I am not transphobic. I have several trans friends and acquaintances as well as trans friends with benefits. Def not transphobic here in the least bit.


Some ppl think if you have a trans friend it means you are transphobic.
I kid you not. 8O

That’s just stupid.


It sounds like a misunderstanding of how people dismiss the I have x friends excuse when accused of bigotry.

Having x friends doesn't make one a bigot, but hiding behind them when accused of bigotry deserves to be called out.


But what if they aren't hiding behind the gay friend, and the other person is simply misrepresenting them? :scratch:

I have been accused of being homophobic despite having a gay friend since we were children.
Perhaps I cultivated this friendship 55 years ago only to use it as a defence against being accused now.
I'm smart, but I don't think I am THAT smart. :mrgreen:


I don't/can't claim to speak about your specific situation, but it's not uncommon for people to use I have an x friend to dismiss criticism immediately after saying something bigoted about the group said friend is a member of.

Sometimes the person who places themselves in that situation will disagree about the nature of their comment, and they're entitled to that, but others are entitled to evaluate things differently. The person in that situation will likely insist they're being misrepresented, but they might well be misrepresenting the situation themselves.

But it even happens when the comment was recorded, allowing anyone to form an opinion. A portion of people will use hilarious pretzel logic to avoid having to admit something they said was problematic. People who identify as liberals tend to be especially bad for that sort of behaviour when they're called out.

It's often a side-dish to I'm not y, but... where y can be whatever form of bigotry applies.


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01 May 2023, 11:22 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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But what if they aren't hiding behind the gay friend, and the other person is simply misrepresenting them? :scratch:

I have been accused of being homophobic despite having a gay friend since we were children.
Perhaps I cultivated this friendship 55 years ago only to use it as a defence against being accused now.
I'm smart, but I don't think I am THAT smart. :mrgreen:


I don't/can't claim to speak about your specific situation, but it's not uncommon for people to use I have an x friend to dismiss criticism immediately after saying something bigoted about the group said friend is a member of.


I'm aware of that.
As I said, the problem occurs when the accuser misrepresents the situation and refuses to accept The Truth.



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02 May 2023, 7:54 am

People who say that a person only became a mod because he is on the political Left and is part of the LGBT community tend to give other people the distinct impression that they probably have at least some homophobia even if they claim to have had a gay friend. According to my records, the friendship ended because the gay man had "irrational beliefs."

When those same individuals, who shall remain nameless, complain that trans members are at the top of the food-chain on WP while staunchly supporting those who make anti-trans comments periodically, they tend to appear transphobic (and delusional but that’s a separate issue).

Those individuals also suggest that being LGBT is political which is problematic as well. Putting all the pieces of the puzzle together, the picture is pretty klear.

This is probably the biggest misrepresentation I’ve seen yet on WP:

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Some ppl think if you have a trans friend it means you are transphobic.
I kid you not. 8O


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02 May 2023, 8:51 am

She has no right to use physical force on the president. If Joe Biden was younger I would not blame him if he fights back! No one should use force regardless of their gender.


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02 May 2023, 10:16 am

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She has no right to use physical force on the president. If Joe Biden was younger I would not blame him if he fights back! No one should use force regardless of their gender.


Lol, just a metaphor this time around. It'd be a bigger story if she gave him a bodyslam. :lol:


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02 May 2023, 7:23 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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She has no right to use physical force on the president. If Joe Biden was younger I would not blame him if he fights back! No one should use force regardless of their gender.
Lol, just a metaphor this time around. It'd be a bigger story if she gave him a bodyslam.
Well, it would certainly bear out the general consensus that Jenner is nutty as as Christmas fruitcake.



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03 May 2023, 6:23 am

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I'd like to see how comfortably Caitlyn Jenner could live in the America the right envisions.


What about being trans in a leftist nation where you cannot use a gun to defend yourself from chuds? (Or a leftist nation where no form of self-defense is even allowed and even pepper spray is not allowed?)

Also Trump is not a real transphobe, he is a grifter trying to appeal to the lowest chuds. If someone could b**chslap him enough times maybe it could snap him out of it.



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03 May 2023, 8:39 pm

I agree with Caitlyn. I don't think that Biden's done anything for America. Was it his idea to run or did other people tell him to run. If he was told to run, that's elder abuse.


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04 May 2023, 2:22 am

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I agree with Caitlyn. I don't think that Biden's done anything for America. Was it his idea to run or did other people tell him to run. If he was told to run, that's elder abuse.


Uncle Joe is a little out of touch with reality.
It happens with a lot of ppl his age.
I am not nearly as old as "Sleepy Joe", but I constantly keep an eye on any sign of kreeping dementia. 8O :mrgreen:



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04 May 2023, 2:31 am

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I agree with Caitlyn. I don't think that Biden's done anything for America. Was it his idea to run or did other people tell him to run. If he was told to run, that's elder abuse.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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04 May 2023, 9:21 am

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I agree with Caitlyn. I don't think that Biden's done anything for America. Was it his idea to run or did other people tell him to run. If he was told to run, that's elder abuse.


He kept Loser Donald from winning the presidency again, that's doing something significant for America. Keeping that incompetent failure out of office is a major accomplishment all on it's own.


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