Gay couple left free to abuse boys

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To me such a situation will always remain perverse. Look up the word perverse in a good dictionary.

Wow, I think Raptor and Manalitwist would make a great couple!

An animal cannot give "consent." That's a really dumb attempt at rationalization. Animals are even less equipped to give consent than children, seeing as how, y'know, they aren't considered self-aware and sentient. That's why animal cruelty is second only to child cruelty in my book - it's a sign of true cowardice to assault something incapable of defending itself. Now if these people were torturing tigers instead of cats, or skinning kodiak bears instead of rabbits, I might have a little less disdain for them. *Any* mind that satisfies itself by preying on another is a sick mind; limiting such activities to animals that pose no great risk to the human's health simply compounds the sickness with cowardice.

So. Kudos for at least attempting to use some kind of rationale or make people think. But sympathies for failing utterly.

Oh, wow, you're right! And you know who else is guilty of that? Like, people with a hormone imbalance, nasal growth, poorly healed injury, um, women...

I agree, their asses must be dilated. Dilated a**holes... of *course*, it's so obvious! A lose sphincter is indicative of a soul's attempt to escape. This changes my entire world view.... to think, aaaaaaaaaaaallllllll those OLD PEOPLE. Forget the fact that a man worked double shifts to support his children or was severely wounded attempting to defend that which he loved...

obviously, they can't possibly be MEN.

You're the one who thinks that having a "dilated ass" can effect the sound of someone's voice. I'll make you a deal, I'll go look up the definition of perverse after you crack open an anatomy textbook, k? You come back and explain how the looseness of someone's anal sphincter can make their voice turn nasally, and I will post the definition of the word "perverse" exactly as it appears in the dictionary.

Yes/no...? Or have the anatomy textbooks been written by the global western Zionist imperialist liberal media propaganda conspiracy....?

What's most disgusting is that you are your cause's worst enemy. I'm actually interested in hearing your political views and your observations of what's going on in the world, and here I can't take a damn thing you say seriously, because apparently you don't know *anything* else. And, well, frankly... if the people who share your beliefs are as ridiculous as you, the best thing anyone can do is click the 'Back' button when they see your posts.

You want people to take these issues seriously? Then for your sake, please... don't comment on them.

Have you seen a b***h on heat?

Silly, its not the dilated a**hole thats the problem but as you should know, Qi energy may fall from a loose orifice. Now maybe im barking up the wrong tree, perhaps it is the fact that someone had been feminized by having some other guys cock up their ass?

Eialune, are you homosexual, are you man or woman?

Now see, I think everything you're saying on this thread is stupid, but the idea of anal sex being feminizing at least is not as laughable as "loose orifice energy leaking." It *is* a philosophical issue that one must deal with and decide for oneself. While I'm sure we've decided differently, it actually is a matter of personal decision and not fact. "Feminine" is not a scientific concept and no one can tell you whether or not receiving anal sex is somehow emasculating.

Not all gay men even have anal sex - the percentage is fairly equal with heterosexual couples. The reason people associate anal sex with homosexual men is that they're a little more limited in what they can do together sexually. I won't go into details, but you should take these stats into consideration - not because it'll change your mind about whether or not homosexuality is a perversion, but for its own sake; just to sort out your own feelings. You should know where your aversions come from.

It's totally possible to disagree with anal sex *and* disagree with homosexuality. But make sure you don't link the two in your mind or your reasons for disliking both will be less strong and reliable. Because there are a lot of homosexuals who don't have anal sex and there are a lot of straight couples who do.

What are your religious tendencies? I ask because the energy/loose orifice idea is completely foreign to me. I've never even *heard* of it. I personally can only snicker at it because, as my more sarcastic reply addressed, most abnormalities would be accounted for by medical issues not caused by the subject themselves. But maybe I'm simply thinking too literally.

Is it more of a philosophical, abstract looseness? Like... kind of symbolically opening the door on a hot summer day and letting the air conditioner out? If this is a pre-established belief could you link me to a page explaining it? (As long as the page is explaining the belief and not just slinging mud at gays.)

The man is Yang and forceful, the female is Yin and receptive. For a male to relinquish autonomy and ownership of his body to another man harms a man as we have a Yang energy attack.

The woman on the other hand needs the Yang in her.

My my, that's awfully personal!

I have no shame about my identity, but as much as I disagree with you and you piss me off, I'm kind of enjoying our exchanges. And with your kind of knee-jerk hatred/fear of homosexuals I'm afraid that if I told you my gender and preference you'd simply start ignoring me or responding to my posts with "Well your opinion doesn't matter 'cause you're a pervert."

If that's not the case then I might be more open.

So long as you are true and honorable as a man should be then i have no objection to you.

I think you enjoy our exchanges because i represent to you the patriarchal male and you are vying for my attention and approval. Yet at the same time you want to smite me down but rather you would prefer to convert me.

Gotcha. *That* concept I'm familiar with, and can understand, although my beliefs are a bit different. You should mention it earlier in discussions like this, because it changes the tone and implications of a lot of what you're saying. Objecting to homosexuality on those grounds, while still something that disheartens and disagrees with me, is far more honorable than objecting to it because of poorly-conceived pseudologic.

Some of my beliefs are similar to the balance of Yang and Yin, but I also look at a perceived *global* balance of male and female energy - homosexuality, from my point of view, is a kind of natural reaction when the overall balance becomes disrupted. This is why it occurs in all species, not just mankind. It's a way for the world to self-correct in order to maintain universal balance.

Of course, that's just my personal belief, I don't expect or require people to share it. I've just always felt that something that has existed since prehistory and is global among all species is a part of life, even if it seems distasteful - like death and territory wars.

Hakuna mattata, or something or other, whatever.

I enjoy any exchange in which neither party shies away and can be blunt to the point of offense but still pursue the exchange of ideas. I have been rather insulting to you at times, but you seem not to let it get to you, and that's why, even though I insult you, I respect you. If I didn't I wouldn't even bother to respond to your posts.

You do seem a bit aggressive and hateful, and that upsets me because I am by nature an extremely laid-back, nurturing, and peaceful person.

And on that note I will add that I am a heterosexual, married, 23-year-old woman currently attending college to work one-on-one with special needs kids. I have only had one sexual partner my entire life, and that's the man I married. We've been best friends for seven years, a couple for five, and are completely devoted to each other. He was my high school sweet-heart. I don't desire and can't imagine having sex with anyone else because sex for me is purely an emotional and spiritual connection.

The reason I am so passionate about gay rights is a bit deceptive - I am violently against any form of prejudice or hatred, and homosexuality is one of the few traits that is still socially acceptable to hate and persecute. If there were a thread condoning hatred and stereotyping of an ethnic group or religious group I'd be just as vocal.

I did think you were a heterosexual woman in fact up until the last post or two. Would you believe that i used to be just like you in defending homosexual rights?