Sick freak urinated on dying female

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She died of pancreatic failure. The woman was carrying a box of laminate flooring when she stumbled and collapsed. The article says nothing about her being a teacher nor being mentally disabled. The most common cause of inherited pancreatic failure is Cystic Fibrosis.

Just because it pisses you off doesn't make it trolling. I was making a legitimate point, the article may not be telling the whole story. I'm not very trusting of the news.

Trolling would have been if I said something like "maybe she enjoyed it, some people are into golden showers" just to get a rise.

If it were just me offended by your statements, that would be true.

So it's trolling if most people don't like it? Sounds like groupthink to me, something I wouldn't expect on an aspie site.

I just don't think suggesting that it's possible that there's another side to a story is trolling, because what I was saying was still relevant to topic, even if it offends some people's sensibilities.

The point was you posted something callous and rude. This woman died a humiliating, terrifying death, and you suggesting she may have deserved it was absolutely appalling. It may not have been trolling, but some things are better off not said at all.

Do you think the guy who did that deserves to die the same way? Answer honestly.

No. I don't believe anyone deserves to die like that. I don't believe in the death penalty, I don't believe in humiliating people, why would I put them together?

I personally didnt find GOF's opening post offensive. I thought it stood out as coming from a detached and objective viewpoint. I always try to be on guard when reading an emotive newspaper story, and my thoughts at the time were that i found it encouraging to see someone else doing so.

I wasnt feeling the 'karma' line particularly, but i took it in the spirit of the poster sharing their own ideas whilst being detached - and by detached i mean in the sense of being attached, but only to the limited conception of events, whilst a concious effort is made to second-guess possible sources of spin.

I actually think its critically important that people feel free to comment critically about emotive news stories - they are a powerful tool often used to manipulate us.

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You saw where I was going with that. Good.

Now, some of the people who were offended with my posts wrote these quotes.







They may have thought that they disagreed with me, but it sounds to me like they think there is something a person could do to deserve being peed on.

And psych. It's good to see that somebody sees what my intentions actually were. (and I wasn't being totally serious about that karma bit anyway, I was setting up the karma overkill joke. I think we should lighten up a little bit)

I don't believe in karma, it's a very abstract theory. whatever happened in a past life nonbody deserves this. We had a disabled teacher. It sounds like she was diabetic. More people should learn first aid, but it is disgusting, even if they wereall ignorant, that no-one at all there called an ambulance. Surely someone could have seen she had collapsed and was being badly treated. They would have been highly unlikrly to have been attacked for a quiet emergency call about 1 stoned man and a woman in distress.

Given the current political climate & attitudes to cannabis, its very possible that the guys solicitor encouraged him to 'play-up' his use of cannabis, so as to try for a more sympathetic sentancing. Its also useful outside of prison - ive heard drug workers say that sometimes alcoholics lie and say they are cannabis users as well - its the only way they can accepted onto certain rehabilitative initiatives.

Another (minor) point i read a few reports - in some of them Anderson himself mentions youtube, whilst in others it was an unknown member of the crowd.

Goatonfire, I didn't catch anything, believe it or not not everyone is vindictive and wishes ill on others. I certainly don't believe in karma. Bad things happen to good people, and good things happen to evil people.

Bystander psychology is an interesting, yet scary, subject. It was first studied after a Genovese woman was assaulted and ultimately murdered throughout half an hour with around 20-30 people watching.

For each additional bystander, every bystander feels less responsibility. It is a fact of life, all we can do about it is start filing criminal charges against anyone so unwilling to have human decency.

As for the person who committed the crime... I'm pretty sure this speaks clearly against the use of cannabis... He was a scumbag, no question, but most scumbags would at least think twice while sober.

There's really no reason to cry out for basic human decency as long as there are drugs on the street.

He had been drinking too. Perhaps he was severely drunk.

The UK press frequently carries stories of violent crime and mentions cannabis, then in the small print (or by reading other papers) you find out they were drunk or on crack, speed or something!

See what i mean about emotive stories, spin & manipulation?