We are drinking perscription drugs in our water

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My cycling backpack has 1L glass bottles inside a 1.5L plastic bottle (you have to cut the plastic bottle slghtly to slide the plastic bottle in)

I hope that the plastic will contain the glass if i land on my back, between that & the padding i feel pretty confident, but im not doing hardcore downhill stuff anyway.
Ill probably switch back to just refilling plastic bottles. If you were 100% militant about not using plastic, you could just find a metal case to put the glass in..

That's why I asked about the home filtration system because the study says they aren't "home free" but they didn't say why or if there is any difference in drug infiltration. A home owner's best bet would be to get a system. But those of that can't, filtering water is still just as costly as buying water. Besides the sources I cited, I also buy filtered water by the gallon (with reused bottles).

PET plastic bottles (thats virtually all of them) usually leach antimony trioxide into the water IIRC. The longer the waters been in the bottle, the higher the concentration of antimony - i wonder how much would be in an evian bottle after sitting in a warm shipping container on a transatlantic crossing to southern USA?

I'm too laid-back and respectful of other peoples opinions to be "militant" about anything. Changing the world starts with changing yourself is how I look at it.
Good info and tips psych, (evian comment made me LOL)
The glass still scares me a little cause I do "dump" every now and then. ( "No Guts-No Glory" ya know? ) I like to refill the "Propel" water bottles, when I use one. Refilling is of utmost importance also I believe. If everybody would do that think of the difference it would make. I'll get "off my soapbox" now

Spring water - if it's spring water it has to be bottled at source, but it would depend on where that is. If it's down the road from an industrial estate or factory then it's probably not a good idea (I would hope they wouldn't get a license anyway!) as contaminants would seep into the ground etc. But if it's from up the mountains it's probably a lot safer.

The only point to be wary of is what Psych pointed out - PET (and all plastic, for that matter) leeches xeno-oestrogens and other nasties into whatever is in them - food or water - and the longer the water's in them, the more it'll have. Glass is the only inert container you could really use if you want to be safe. Same reason you should never put plastic or cling film in the microwave. Aluminium is pretty bad as well (and strongly linked to stuff like alzheimers and parkinsons... neurological disorders).

And yeap, RO tap water in a bottle would be the more expensive version of what you could do yourself at home!! You'd be better off just buying a filter yourself.


I like the idea of carrying glass bottles inside plastic ones!! I might do that. I walk everywhere and I do worry about carrying glass in my bag, but then I just think of the number of times I've dropped glass bottles of beer or whatever when I'm drunk (all coordination goes out the window!) and they haven't broken... so hopefully they won't then either...

On the cycling backpack/glass dilemma - i just remembered the expensive scotch bottles sometimes come in a decorative brass tube - and their pretty light too

Ooh, now there's an idea.... See, there's always a solution!!

Don't you find it's so much nicer to drink out of glass anyway? Or is that just me being a bit quirky?

I'm far sure we all put far worse into our mouths daily than random traces of substances in tap water.

He's an ideological nut, in his mind anything contradicting his beliefs must be misinformation from the "Powers that Be." His thinking is typical of the circular reasoning that is the basis of all conspiracy theories and extreme ideologies.

He's not wrong about fluoride being bad though, especially when added artificially to water (there is a difference between naturally occurring fluoride and the toxic waste byproduct that gets added artifically). It's only beneficial topically; if you swallow it (ingest it systemically) it's downright dangerous.

I been wonderin' why I been feeling better lately.

Now I spose they'll start chargin' more fer the tap water.

Odin, you are no longer welcome to reply to my messages. You attack my believes even though you have no evidence that any of them are wrong. Those balloons under your name aren't helping you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluo ... ontroversy
"Despite over 60 years of water fluoridation in the U.S, there are no double-blind studies which prove fluoride's effectiveness in tooth decay." Yet when natural non-big industry supported substances are used, double-blind studies are demanded.

"The panel reviewed a large body of literature in which fluoride has a statistically significant association with a wide range of adverse effects."

Lots of adverse effects combined with no scientific proof that it works = you accept it. Alternative treatments with far more evidence are dismissed as junk science.

I'm not wasting my time. The sheeple will never learn.

Fluoride, when taken systemically, interferes with thyroid function and causes hypothyroidism (under-active thyroid). Besides this, it's also linked to lower IQs (intelligence, meaning), obesity, diabetes, heart disease, and osteoporosis due to calcium leeching from the bones. Nicht good in our water. I personally don't even use it in toothpaste as I don't really see the point, but it should be fine as long as you don't swallow it.

Without flouride (and chlorine, for that matter), our water would be riddled with deadly bacteria and protozoa.

You should let Europe and most of the countries in the world know about that. I think almost every country in Europe has rejected water fluoridation because there is no proof it is effective at reducing cavities or anything else and there is plenty of scientific evidence that it is harmful.

Fluoride is added to apparently 'stop cavities', not to kill bacteria, Beau. Get your facts right before you say things like that...

And Zendell is right, most EU countries have no fluoridation, some proposing to put an out-and-out ban on it being added to water because of the severe health consequences that come with ingesting it systemically. The stuff is poison and should NOT be in anyone's water. Fine if you want it in toothpaste, that's up to you, but it isn't for swallowing.