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how the hell should I know 
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30 May 2008, 6:37 pm
I don't care what you think
your just an ignorant son of a b***h who just trashes everyone who doesn't share your crackpot views
While that is false in regard to me, it is true in regard to you.
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31 May 2008, 11:22 pm
SORRY!...
yikes...well, as they say round these parts, "the devil can quote scripture to suit his purposes"
sorry, I was taught (by someone, can't cite chapter and verse...npi... that when they originally edited the KJB (from several sources), that King James had a fear of witches. That possibly the original text read 'poisoner', but got changed (what a shock to them it must have been to read the last 2 lines of Revelations... Another possible error; the 'a camel through the eye of a needle' was originally a 'rope through the eye of a needle'...the words are similar in Greek.
Still, from Aramaic to Greek (New Testament) to Latin, to English...it's likely that a few mistakes were made in translation. Dang...it's as embarrassing as the time I was reading that a woman got pregnant from a bullet in the Civil War wasn't true, either..
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yikes...well, as they say round these parts, "the devil can quote scripture to suit his purposes"sorry, I was taught (by someone, can't cite chapter and verse...npi...
that when they originally edited the KJB (from several sources), that King James had a fear of witches. That possibly the original text read 'poisoner', but got changed (what a shock to them it must have been to read the last 2 lines of Revelations... Another possible error; the 'a camel through the eye of a needle' was originally a 'rope through the eye of a needle'...the words are similar in Greek.Still, from Aramaic to Greek (New Testament) to Latin, to English...it's likely that a few mistakes were made in translation. Dang...it's as embarrassing as the time I was reading that a woman got pregnant from a bullet in the Civil War wasn't true, either..
From all the other translations I have:
(ACV) Thou shall not allow a sorceress to live.
(AOV) Die towerheks mag jy nie laat lewe nie.
(ASV) Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live.
(BBE) Any woman using unnatural powers or secret arts is to be put to death.
(BCN) "Paid â gadael i ddewines fyw.
(Bibeln) En trollkvinna skall du icke låta leva.
(Bishops) (22:17) Thou shalt not suffer a witche to lyue.
(BUL) Магьосница жена да не оставиш.
(CBK) Čarodějnici nedáš živu býti.
(CEV) Death is the punishment for witchcraft.
(Dansk) En Troldkvinde må du ikke lade leve.
(Darby) --Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
(DRB) Wizards thou shalt not suffer to live.
(DSV) De toveres zult gij niet laten leven.
(ESV) "You shall not permit a sorceress to live.
(FDB) Tu ne laisseras point vivre la magicienne.
(FLS) Tu ne laisseras point vivre la magicienne.
(FPR) Velhonaisen älä salli elää.
(GEB) Eine Zauberin sollst du nicht leben lassen. -
(Geneva) Thou shalt not suffer a witch to liue.
(GLB) Die Zauberinnen sollst du nicht leben lassen.
(GNB) "Put to death any woman who practices magic.
(GSB) Eine Zauberin sollst du nicht leben lassen!
(GW) "Never let a witch live.
(HKB) Varázsló asszonyt ne hagyj életben.
(HOT) (22:17) מכשׁפה לא תחיה׃
(HOT+) (22:17) מכשׁפה3784 לא3808 תחיה׃2421
(IBIS) Setiap perempuan yang melakukan sihir harus dibunuh.
(ICE) Eigi skalt þú láta galdrakonu lífi halda.
(INR) Non lascerai vivere la strega.
(IRL) Non lascerai vivere la strega.
(ITB) "Seorang ahli sihir perempuan janganlah engkau biarkan hidup.
(JPS) (22:17) Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live.
(JSS) 呪術を行なう女は生かしておいてはならない。
(KJV) Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
(KJV+) Thou shalt notH3808 suffer a witch to live.H2421 H3784
(KJV-1611) Thou shalt not suffer a witch to liue.
(KJVR) Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
(LBLA) No dejarás con vida a la hechicera.
(LITV) You shall not allow a sorceress to live.
(LXX) (22:17) φαρμακοὺς οὐ περιποιήσετε. --
(MKJV) You shall not allow a sorceress to live.
(NBLH) "No dejarás con vida a la hechicera.
(Norsk) En trollkvinne skal du ikke la leve
(PBG) Czarownicy żyć nie dopuścisz.
(PJFA) Não permitirás que viva uma feiticeira.
(RDCT) Pe vrăjitoare să n'o laşi să trăiască.
(ROB) Pe vrăjitori să nu-i lăsaţi să trăiască!
(RST) Ворожеи не оставляй в живых.
(RV) Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live.
(SDK-L) Vještici ne daj da živi.
(So) Saaxirad inay sii noolaato waa inaanad u fasaxin.
(SRV) A la hechicera no dejarás que viva.
(SSE) A la hechicera no darás la vida.
(SVD) لا تَدَعْ سَاحِرَةً تَعِيشُ.
(TAB) Huwag mong babatahing mabuhay ang isang babaing manggagaway.
(TKJV) สำหรับหญิงแม่มด เจ้าอย่าให้รอดชีวิตอยู่เลย
(TKK) "Büyücü kadını yaşatmayacaksınız.
(Tyndale) Thou shalt not suffre a witch to lyue,
(UBIO) (22-17) Чарівниці не зоставиш при житті.
(Vamvas) Μάγισσαν δεν θέλεις αφήσει να ζη.
(Viet) Ngươi chớ để các đồng cốt sống.
(Vulgate) maleficos non patieris vivere
(Webster) Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
(YLT) `A witch thou dost not keep alive.
They all pretty much say the same thing. Also, we're dealing with the Old Testament here, so it is derived directly from the Hebrew and not through multiple languages.
This is the Masoretic Text:
(HOT) (22:17) מכשׁפה לא תחיה׃
With Strong's numbers:
(HOT+) (22:17) מכשׁפה3784 לא3808 תחיה׃2421
KJV with Strong's:
(KJV+) Thou shalt notH3808 suffer a witchH3784 to live.H2421
לה / לוא / לא
lô' / lôh
BDB Definition:
1) not, no
1a) not (with verb - absolute prohibition)
1b) not (with modifier - negation)
1c) nothing (substantive)
1d) without (with particle)
1e) before (of time)
Part of Speech: adverb
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: a primitive particle
Same Word by TWOT Number: 1064
H3784
כּשׁף
kâshaph
BDB Definition:
1) (Piel) to practice witchcraft or sorcery, use witchcraft
1a) sorcerer, sorceress (participle)
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: a primitive root
Same Word by TWOT Number: 1051
H2421
חיה
châyâh
BDB Definition:
1) to live, have life, remain alive, sustain life, live prosperously, live for ever, be quickened, be alive, be restored to life or health
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to live
1a1a) to have life
1a1b) to continue in life, remain alive
1a1c) to sustain life, to live on or upon
1a1d) to live (prosperously)
1a2) to revive, be quickened
1a2a) from sickness
1a2b) from discouragement
1a2c) from faintness
1a2d) from death
1b) (Piel)
1b1) to preserve alive, let live
1b2) to give life
1b3) to quicken, revive, refresh
1b3a) to restore to life
1b3b) to cause to grow
1b3c) to restore
1b3d) to revive
1c) (Hiphil)
1c1) to preserve alive, let live
1c2) to quicken, revive
1c2a) to restore (to health)
1c2b) to revive
1c2c) to restore to life
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: a primitive root [compare H2331, H2421]
Same Word by TWOT Number: 644
The word, מכשׁפה or rather מכשפה , mekhashapah, would have a grammatical feminine to it, but it would refer equally to either men or women.
02 Jun 2008, 3:15 pm
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02 Jun 2008, 3:19 pm
What are they protesting anyway, the desire for Nair to be a beverage???
02 Jun 2008, 3:30 pm
For all I know, they're protesting in support of their favorite color!
