Homosexuality is linked to genetics- evidence found

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02 Dec 2008, 10:13 am

I actually don't really understand why everyone is so keen to base their pro- or anti- homosexual argument on whether or not homosexuality is genetically determined. The moral argument in favour of gay rights either stands on its own terms or not. If it was discovered tomorrow that homosexuality had no genetic basis, I don't see how that would damage the argument for gay rights. In the same way, if a genetic basis was discovered for some obscene urge, for paedophilia say, this couldn't be taken as the basis for an argument in favour of legalising that practise.

But at the same time, I wish evangelical Christians would talk more about the moment when they decided, against their presumably very horny gay urges, to not become practising homosexuals.

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02 Dec 2008, 10:19 am

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That made very little sense.

well then maybe you should work on your attention span or whatever problem you have with understanding complex sentences.

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02 Dec 2008, 10:21 am

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Religious ppl are yelling now because they know well that in case homosexuality is proven to be genetic then that means that 100% of their religion is just a myth.

No. It just means homosexuality cannot be written off as a moral failure. It means homosexuality has nothing to do with virtue or morality per se, therefore it isn't evil.

Your religion says that homosexuality is a sin, you can't deny this.

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Your anti-religious sentiment really shines through, btw.

You can describe me as religionphobic. .

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02 Dec 2008, 10:21 am

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no its not been proven. especially when its a proven fact that 3/4 of all published medical studies are actually fraudlent.

its a fact their are over 100,000 man mad chemicals in the enviroment, household goods, and food supply wich mimic sex hormones and attack the reproductive systems(this one has been proven true btw)

you really start to piss me off, either quote/link to sources of those studies or stop making such claims.

only because you say so doesn't mean it's a proven fact.

stop trolling and make justified statements, or get out of my thread.

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02 Dec 2008, 10:24 am

nightbender wrote:

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Religious ppl are yelling now because they know well that in case homosexuality is proven to be genetic then that means that 100% of their religion is just a myth.

no its not been proven. especially when its a proven fact that 3/4 of all published medical studies are actually fraudlent.

If that's true , then that means that Autism is probably linked to Mercury or to Vaccination.

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its a fact their are over 100,000 man mad chemicals in the enviroment, household goods, and food supply wich mimic sex hormones and attack the reproductive systems(this one has been proven true btw)

Didn't you just say that 3/4 of medical studies are fraudulent? Or you just pick the ones who are suitable to your believes?

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02 Dec 2008, 10:27 am

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nightbender wrote:

I admit , I would really like you if I meet you in real life.

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02 Dec 2008, 10:27 am

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Didn't you just say that 3/4 of medical studies are fraudulent? Or you just pick the ones who are suitable to your believes?

I think it's obvious that he does, looking at his posts in this thread...

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I admit , I would really like you if I meet you in real life.

you're welcome any time, Prince

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02 Dec 2008, 10:35 am

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Your religion says that homosexuality is a sin, you can't deny this

My religion is not based on this sentiment. It does not hinge on the sinfulness of homosexuality, and to even suggest this is an insult. What it (really) hinges on are the teachings left to us by Jesus.

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02 Dec 2008, 10:40 am

Homosexuality ? Genetic ?
Damn, were did you find that, please tell us your source.
It seems false, homosexuality is nor Genetic, nor a disease.
This orientation is made by personal experience, not DNA...
To illustrate my point, if that theory was true, they wouldn't be any homosexuals because they couldn't reproduce themselves and make the gene continue !
Therefore, this theory is the most false that ever exists (to understand my precedent statement, you'll have to understand the Darwin Evolution theory)

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02 Dec 2008, 10:41 am

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Your religion says that homosexuality is a sin, you can't deny this

but your religion does say that homosexuality is an unnatural sin, & that any practising homosexual who dies unrepentant will suffer for all eternity. why does this not appall & disgust you?

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02 Dec 2008, 10:45 am

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Homosexuality ? Genetic ?
Damn, were did you find that, please tell us your source.

I did. please, make an effort of reading it before you comment.

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Therefore, this theory is the most false that ever exists (to understand my precedent statement, you'll have to understand the Darwin Evolution theory)

if someone doesn't understand the evolution here it is you.

ever heard of recessive genes?

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02 Dec 2008, 10:47 am

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Are you aware that homosexuality and bisexuality exist vastly among the animal species? Especially among primates which are the closest to humans?

That's something your parents never tell you about....

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02 Dec 2008, 10:51 am

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The gene(s) responsible for homosexuality must be recessive. And randomly activated, it would seem ...

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02 Dec 2008, 10:53 am

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i mean u dont choose to like another man's penis and homophobes will NEVER be able to understand since they r so closed minded. it

"Homophobe" is a word made up by homosexuals as a hate word against straight people. Using that word against straight people is exactly the same as calling a black man a ni@@er. Think about it... the word is not even descriptive. No one "fears" homosexuals... most people usually feel either pity or disgust for them. Interestingly, there is no word that homosexuals use to define people who are homosexual-friendly. That's a clear indication that "homophope" is a derogatory term and is just hate speech.

I don't think most people are closed-minded about homosexuality. They understand it, they just don't like it. They understand Darwin, and they know that the evolution of humanity will cease if homosexuals became dominate. Throughout history, humans have always stood against those who pose a threat to the evolution of the human race. It may be in our gentic makeup to oppose those who do not contribute to the gene pool. Survival of the fittest and all that.

You're right... let's look for a more accurate term...

How about "bigot?"

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02 Dec 2008, 11:03 am

"Bigot" is much more accurate and to-the-point than "homophobe."

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02 Dec 2008, 11:06 am

well, no, because 'homophobe' accurately specifies the precise type of bigotry we are dealing with.

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