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16 Apr 2009, 12:01 am

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I'm not saying I support this, but that seems to be actually the case, muslims in the US to be stigmatized after 9/11 and Islam been associated with terrorism since then, in that case I would have to agree with that, wether the term difamation does fit or not, that can be debated, but, yes, such stigma does happen, and I have seen that happening in the PPR forum as well.


Jews have been putting up with this for centuries. Now it is the turn of the American Muslims. Let them cope with it as best they can. They could start with a million Muslim march to abjure, decry and reject the extreme behaviors of the Jihadists. That would be a start. They could also have an occasional pork-chop for dinner. It wouldn't kill them.

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So, because the Jews have been oppressed by bigoted morons, it is ok for that to happen to people who follow other religions? That is ridiculous.


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16 Apr 2009, 6:12 am

Who_Am_I wrote:

So, because the Jews have been oppressed by bigoted morons, it is ok for that to happen to people who follow other religions? That is ridiculous.


As a generality it is not o.k.

BUT-----

In the case of Muslims, it is a joy to behold. They have been on the backs of Jews for centuries. Now it is their turn to get some of what they have given to Jews. For those of us who delight in schadenfreude it is a jolly good show so forgive me for enjoying the show.

What goes around comes around. Watching people being hoisted on their own petard is one of the joys of being alive. Think of KKK people who burn to death because their sheets caught fire while lighting their crosses. Or think of a meteor from outer space falling to earth and wiping out Mecca (with the Qaba as the i.p.) during the Haj. Straight from the hand of Allah. Is that not a rich irony?

In the words of Pliny, the Middle Aged: payback is a b***h.

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16 Apr 2009, 11:39 am

Muslims on the backs of Jews? What nonsense.

While we're at this 'defamation of religion', perhaps you don't know that Jews tend to be the most voluble on this subject - what with 'blood libel!' accusations and the like... they of course use that accusation to counter any criticism of any Jewish organisation, state, or individual... they are very good at shutting people up, far better at it than the Muslims.



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16 Apr 2009, 5:59 pm

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Muslims on the backs of Jews? What nonsense.



The few Jews in Iran have dhimmi status.

Jews are the favored target of the Jihadis.


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16 Apr 2009, 7:11 pm

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 324AAH1Hb2 :!: :!: :!:

The most important phrase in that question and first answer to me is 'british agent' and 'deobandist' *shrugs* which adds a twist considering India.



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17 Apr 2009, 4:12 pm

Eastern Orthodox and other Muslims are far more often targeted by these jihadis... as they say that if a land was run by Muslims so it should be forever - and so any lands ruled by Muslims and taken by some other religion are contested... overwhelmingly Orthodox-ruled places like Serbia and Russia... places were such people lived for centuries unlike Israel that was stolen between 1920-1948 by people who knew what they were doing - if any jihadis have Jews in their crosshairs they chose to put themselves there...

By the way, the use of the 'dhimmi' argument by Israel's boosters is yet another characteristic act of chutzpah... as Israel by definition has a system where those said to practice the favoured official religion have rights far greater than anyone else... those who live in glass houses...



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17 Apr 2009, 10:11 pm

this bodes ill for teh interwebz. Because, using this law, the cult of scientology can legally have Anonymous member arrested for exposing the truth about them. Thankfully, the USA has the 1st amendment to proctect us. In the words of Thomas Jefferson "Dissent is vital to goverment." Also by him "Dissent is the most patrotic thing you can do."


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