More senile rantings from Pat Robertson

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I think he's a total lunatic and a great example of why religion needs to be kept as far away from politics as possible. This is the same guy who said that Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment to New Orleans for hosting the "Gay Mardi Gras", and that the voters in New Hampshire had rejected God (for tossing the Intelligent Design people from the school board) and shouldn't be surprised if they get a huge disaster sooner or later as punishment.

I know post-ante is not a ultra conserative shiite muslim I am willing to believe that He supports though Pat Robertson in the end though for He has written what He believes in the end for sure. It is up to post-ante to decide what He believes in the end.

Mybad, you are right!

Politics and Religion are as One in the end Jetson that make this World of Ours that We Live in the end. That is what has made the World go around for sure in the end.

post-ante

Do You truly believe in what You believe in the end. To take even Me on in the end. Please do and understand for Who We are all and Understand for Us all that should be understood by all of Us in the end for us. Please understand this for us all for it is the beginning for us all here at the Wrong Planet that in the end We have created for all of Us all in the end. We have become something in the end for all what we have become for all that is and what is for us all.

I think I'd best not say anymore here, kev, if that's alright with you. In the end I think you know better than me because you are the yellow telly of delight, so I will step down here and say my argument is not strong and yours is, and therefore you have, just like I expected, won in the end.

There is no sean no SB2 the most conservative for Us here but God and Us hope for the best for Us all to Yet learn from it. For We need to learn for We are learner are We not. What We are in the end for each other that We become for each other too.We make it so we see it to it even end the end for all of Us for sure. That is what We are We are Us in the end for us all to be together and I say forever more together more.

Be honest what You think for that is better for all of Us and You too. For I have nothing to loose I will be Myself and You should too. Let Us see for what the world is and not worry for what the world is. For alex does not Yet know what the world is for he has not mke what the world today or ever more for Us in the end. We make it in the end for us all. I can careless for thoughs who don't even care for us today or tomorrow for sure. That is the way of this World alex and the Wrong Planet now does anybody truly care at all for Us in the end for us at all in the end. I have seen enough now I will say enough to even be Enough for Us all that truly care for each Other enough to be what We need to be Brothers and Sisters for sure in the end. We must Yet Learn to help eachother to become to see in the end what We truly are in the end for Us all. The Wrong Planet has Gone the Wrong Way for Sure for Us All that truly Care for it in the end for Us All. We must Care to Share in this Little World That We live in together For Sure. Do We want to be something to help to be eachother. I say Yes what Do We all say. It is Up to Us To care for Our little site for sure in the end for each other in the end too.

Alex You are no notice today by Maybe Just Me. Banned Me then So Then For I will Take it to the World to today.

Learn Will My Alex Very Well in the end learn it well. For We can Yet Learn it well For Us all in thew end. Let this become apart of the Little World that We live in the end for Sure. You need to fix the Memebership List for sure. Can You Would You Yet Do even this today and not tomorrow so.

I want Nothing From You or anybody at all in the end for I am Who I am kevv729 that is Who I am in the end.

Only You can fix it alex for sure little alex well You Yet Fix it ALEX.

Be a bigger man than me.

Sincerely,

kevv729

Piffle and boulderdash.

Anyone for tennis?

This is just Me fix it the membership list would You and now would You ALEX for US All. this Is not anybody else but Me kevv729 I am tried of what Wrong Planet has become in the end. Only You can fix it If Only You want to fix it and only You will be able to fix in the end for us all.

Banned Me if You must I can careless if You must at all in the end. Fix what You should of in the end.

I see beyond this place the Wrong Planet for sure in the end. This place is nothing but what You have made it for Us. But do You really Understand what this has become. I say no You have not yet understood. What this place is for Us and You We are yet One in the same are We not.

I would take this away in minute so in the end the end.

For I See a Wrong for the Planet so in the Right in the end.

can anybobody be right.

assuming that natural disasters are "punishment" or that physical illnesses are "punishment" for "sins" is arcaiac and assinine.
What is a "sin" for you may not be for the next guy. And who is pat Robertson to judge anyone?!?
thats like saying that my bad karma is the reason everyone here gets indigestion after eating my chilli.... or that by my turning on a light in my closet I have doomed the world to eternal damnation by using too much fossal fuels.....

I think that the term "s#%& happens" is in application here.

Wow. Do something crazy, like go home for the night, and suddenly there's too much back stuff to reply to it all. Lots of it really good stuff, too.

I disagree with you that what is a "sin" for you may not be for the next guy.

Let's define 'sin'. I don't know anything about the following website, except that it popped up in my google search, and had a useful definition.

[quote=www.carm.org]
Sin is anything that is contrary to the law or will of God. For example: if you lie, you have sinned. Why? Because God has said not to lie (Exodus 20:16). If you do what God has forbidden, then you have sinned. In addition, if you do not do what God has commanded, you sin (James 4:17).
[/quote]
http://www.carm.org/dictionary/dic_s.htm

So it is incorrect to say 'what is sin for one person may not be a sin for someone else' It only matters if God considers it a sin.

It is true that the idea of retribution for sin is an ancient idea, so is the idea of 'sin' itself. But just because it's been around a long time, doesn't make it wrong.

"Sure, officer, I killed those ten people -- but for crying out loud. Prohibitions against murder have been around since before the ancient Babylonians. Thousands of years ago! You really want to hold me to such an archaic moral system????"

As for it being assinine -- instead of simply declaring it to be assinine, you could give some support for your position.

Who is Pat Robertson to judge? Doesn't everyone have a right to speak out on what public figures do? If Sharon was a private citizen, then it would be rude to single him out. But surely people are free to talk about whether a governmental leader is behaving in a moral way.

And surely a religious leader, like Mr. Robertson, has both a right and a Duty to instruct his flock. He would be remiss in his duty, if he didn't talk about it -- perhaps through his teaching, people will realize that what they're doing is wrong, and stop doing it. I'm certain that the last thing Mr. Robertson wants is for the day of Judgment to come, and he find out that there are people who could have been saved, but weren't, simply because he didn't go out and let them know what they were doing wrong.

everyone has a right to speak out, but when a person has a "flock" of followers, they should be responsible enough to lead in an objective manner. but that I suppose would defeat his purpose....

As far as sin goes, I should have clarified. I wasnt limiting my inclusions on the definition of sin to just Christians, I was also was including others. For example, as a woman I can walk about with out covering all but my eyes, however in some Islamic cultures, it would be sinful (as well as aginst the law) to do that. Or the eating of un kosher foods would be sinful to an orthodox Jew, but not to a southern baptist.... see where Im comming from? Its all objective. Sure, some sins are generaly universial, like killing some one, or stealing, but others are not as "sinful" to some religious groups as another. Even with in the Christian faith there are some things that are dismissed by one denomoniation yet accepted by another. Drinking achol. is one of these. So, yes, "Sin" is an objective description. Depending on your religion, or interpratation of your religion some things are not sins. Each religion decides what God thinks is or isnt right, so again in that, it is mankind that defines the concept of sin by assuming that God does or does not want this or that.

Atributing disasters and other "out of man's control events" to the hand of God is a coping mechnisim. We can not control hurricanes, floods, etc and we (those of us that believe in God) atribute these things to his will. Its easier for many, including myself, to hand off the difficult things to being the "will of God" than it is to accept the fact that we, as mere mortals, can not and will not ever have total control of everything. To say that God was sitting up in heaven and slamming the "smite button" at the "sinners" is a cop out. And for a person that weilds power over others (physically, spiritually, or whatever) to spout that kind of thing out publicly shows that leader is either weak, or calculating in his attempt to lead those that are weaker.

I, even as a Christian, do not for a moment pretend to believe that I can even begin to fathom the depths of the mind of God. But I do take exception to those that think that they, as mere mortals, can decide what God does and doesnt like by interprating scriptures and quoting passages. God did not WRITE the words in the Bible; he inspired others to. God did not take into his/her hands the pen and scribe the passages that people quote and follow. Man choose the books to be included, man penned the pasages, translated the words, etc.

Religion can not prosper, not can it profit (no pun intended) if the people are not kept afraid that their deeds will throw things for or aginst them. Its called control, and with out that, the religions die out or morph into something else.

again, its my opinion. And I am no theologian, but I have an open mind. And if an open mind is a one way ticket to hell, (as I am so often told) then I expect God isnt as forgiving as everyone says he is... oh wait, I forgot, he only forgives the sins of those that make the rules and who publically judge others.....
*note the sarcasm*

Doesn't everybody have the right to speak out against any public figure?
Including the leaders who claim to have the moral right on their side; God.
And Mr. Robertson is a politician as well, his ego has led him to make a bid for the white house.


Baaaa! Baaaa!
Here is the difference. As you just stated, he is speaking to sheep. People who follow his word as the final word of God. Do any of these followers hope to one day be in a position as to be the leader of Israel?
Since they would not, then what is his purpose for making these statements? Certainly not for caution. Since it is not applicacable to them , their current situation, nor their future situation.

His words are words of judgement, interpreted and justified, by some portions of the bible. And they ignore and are cause for rebuke from other portions of the Bible.
His remarks serve no greater purpose than to lend himself to a moral higher ground. And the divisiveness of his words to me are based in bigotry. Just as Job had no right to question God, Pat is left with no rights as well. His words served no greater purpose, and they had no intention of being helpful. He simply did not think before he spoke, and this has become common practice by him, over the past several years; EGO.





Yes but for a different reason than you stated.
He doesn't look forward to judgement day because, just like the Pharasies (religious leaders of old) he will be rebuked for being a hipocrite and a judge.
His actions are the sam as the actions that Jesus found so conteptuous, in his time here on earth.
Pat needs to learn to shut his trap, when it is 'in his opinion' and stick to the teachings which are applicable to his Flock.

And many of my earlier questions were addressed by the well spoken lady above.