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Its not as simple as that, go and study some economics, please. Money = Power = Diplomatic influence on world stage. Without the EU, the prospect of us becoming part of the next third world increases by quite a lot.

Basically you hate society and rightly so. The BNP are not the answer. Fighting the conservative disposition and all the social rules, traditions and BS it underpins is the way we on the spectrum win. Not by joining xenophobic thug parties, ideally we want all morons off the face the earth. There are plenty of white idiots, who we can lump in with that lot.

^^ Perhaps concerning overpopulation I included a little too much detail. I intended to say that this is perhaps the only solution, although it is very difficult.

99% of the population are thickos, in case you had forgotten to notice. Especially with regards to politics.

You may have a look into the so-called Bilateral-Treaties between Switzerland and the EU. Switzerland waived away wider part of its sovereignty because they need to have trade with the EU, but does not sit on the tables in Brussels and Strasbourg where the decisions are made. You like it or like it not: The EU is by its structure, power and size an empire. You just can't live on the same continent like an empire and still execute real power. It is better to sit on the tables of the decision making processes within this empire than to be outside.

And don't say that wasn't the thing the UK signed up in 1973: All treaties of the EU repeat the goal of an "ever closer union".

Simply their EU-Manifesto is quite nonsense (Quotes):

"We always vote in the European Parliament for best interest of Britain ..." - The most decision in the EU-Parliament can't be pinned down to any nation, but to groups. E.g stronger consumer protection is in the favour of consumers and often not in the interest of industry, but not in favour or against any nation. Those are the decisions the EU-parliament is dealing with.

"The EU is riddled with fraud ... " and repeating the old stuff about the EU Court of Auditors. As the regulations stand, the court of auditors must reject any budget, if even a minor irregularity has been found - they shall at least read the report of the ECA - number of 90% of the budget or €6 bio. is utterly nonsense. Those payment were not made by the EU, but by national governments, mostly for the CAB; including the British government. The report is better to as an argument to take more responsibility regarding financial affairs to the EU and away from national bureaucrats.

" ... asylum seekers ..." - Can't be missed: Asylum is not a primary matter of EU-law, the the Title IV of the EC-Treaty does handle minor aspects regarding this issue, but the UK opted out. There are also some regulations in the Schengen-Acquis, to which the UK has not signed up. More important the Geneva convention regarding refuges - but this convention is outside the Acquis Communautaire.

" ... European Arrest Warrant ..." - They forget that UK-judges can also ask for citizens of other EU-Countries to be extradited to the UK.

" ... Foreign policemen ... " They forget that e.g. UK-Policemen were give the same power in Germany prior football matches involving British "fans".

" ... we must keep the Pound ... " - The pound, as it stands know is subject to any manipulation of the government, as to be seen in history again and again. The Euro is issued by an independent institution, and can't be manipulated by anyone. A much better concept.

" ... closing post offices ... " - What does this have to with EU?

" ... imperial measurement ... " Oh yes - it much easier to calculate with 12 inches on a foot and three foots on yard than with 100 cm on a metre.

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Shall anyone else pick-up the rest of this nonsense!

Lol. I wish Kangoogle would have said something like "i am black" in response to this. That would have been amazing.

Isn't "I am Aspie" good enough? Anyway, its a shame he cannot even sell it to an Aryan.

We are not Switzerland. We are an island nation with commercial links far beyond the EU. We are well within the top 10 of world economies by GDP, have sigificant oil reserves and some of the best fishing grounds in this part of the world. The EU needs us more than we need it.

To tackle a few other of your statements:


You miss the point. It may be easier to calculate in engineering or science, but imperial measures are preferred for everyday use in purchasing food and drink, and measuring travel distances. That is part of our culture, and we don't want some foreigner telling us we can't use the measures we've been using happily here for centuries.


But it's our elected government free to "manipulate" it, not some organisation in another country. Keeping the pound is essential to keeping our economic independence.


So what? That's not really something we need, anyway.

Like I've said above, we already have significance without the backing of the EU. Okay, your buddy Gordon has done his best to destroy that, but assuming we pull through, we still have a lot going for us. Other countries have done quite well by staying out of the EU, you know. Norway, for example, is one of the most financially secure countries in this part of the world at the moment. Of course, they didn't squander their oil money like we did.

Roughly 50% of the UK's trade goes form and into the Euro-Zone. With Switzerland it is 70%. Not adapting EU-Standards more less automatically would mean to have here substancial difficulties.

Oil: In 2007 the UK produced 1.69 million bbl/day and used 1.763 million bbl/day. - the reserves are just sufficient to produce enough oil for the UK. Natural gas has to be imported since years. All over the production in the North Sea stagnating or declining.

Not really sufficient for being an independent economy.



It is simply idiotic to use for science and engineering an other system of measurement than for all other purposes. Especially if this system is quite less practical. simple example: What is easier to calculate: The inches in 3/4 of an yard or the cm in 3/4 of an metre?



Become real - it is not the "people" how make the decisions. The people are in their vast majority to thick or to lazy to know what is going on. The decisions in Westminster and Whitehall are made by a class of politicians and civil servants how recruit themselves in back rooms of clubs or party head quarters. It is not "your" economic control, but the control of this class over the currency. They often tell the people that they fighting against "Brussels" to maintain the power of the "British People" - they never gave a sh*t about this alleged "power of the people"; what they mean their own power.

Don't understand wrong, I neither trust the bureaucrats in Brussels, Berlin, Rome or Paris or elsewhere. But: At least I prefer a system in which those bureaucrats control each other and no centre of power has to much of it.



It is a system of merging souverainity and not waiving away. Otherwise you argue that e.g. the London Metropolitian Police woud "extradit" Londoners to a court in York.

BTW: It was a privilege for Freeman of the City of London only to be sentenced by Courts within the City of London. Following you argumentation we could easily restore this privilege.

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Norway exports net roughly 2 million bbl/day - with a population of 4.7 Mio. ...

BTW: The decision of the EU-Court in Luxembourg are binding in Norway in the following areas:

1) Working conditions
2) External Trade
3) Schengen Acquis
4) Costumer Protection
5) Competition Law

Norway is legally in a similar position as Switzerland: Defacto a member of the EU, but having no say.

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We have significance. Not enough significance.

You realise that the world is becoming more globalised, not less. Nothing the BNP can do about it. Though they could turn us into another North Korea with that approach.

And having no invasion of eastern Europeans taking their jobs and abusing their welfare system. Am I right? They still maintain significantly more control over their own destiny, than we do in the UK. The point is that they negotiate to the extent that suits their purposes without being up to their neck in the way we are.


Well, that's 1.69mb/day we don't need to import, Dussel. Yes, the N Sea fields are in decline, but then there's the potential of the vast shelf area west of the Western Isles out to the Rockall Bank, and of course the area around the Falkands -- I'm sure the thieving bureaucrats in Brussels would love to get their grubby paws on that. With sensible investment in nuclear power generation, and in large tidal schemes like the Severn Barrage, we could be in quite an enviable position. Like I said, we are not Switzerland.


I never said it was preferable to use in that situation, only that it's preferred in everyday matters when talking about travel distances or buying food. However, don't the Yanks seem to manage OK? Didn't they put a man on the moon using their version of feet, inches, pounds and ounces?


Well, there may be truth in that, but I prefer being governed by British crooks over Euro crooks. Look what happened the last two times a megalomaniacal continental had a desire to rule over us.

Maybe. But just because everyone else thinks something's a good idea, and everyone else jumps on the bandwagon, doesn't automatically mean it's a good thing for you. For example, I recall sub-prime derivatives were all the fashion in the financial world not long back.

I don't think globalisation is a good thing. But I know the BNP lack the power to stop it, I don't even think the US has anything like the power to do so.

But remember, if we get out of the EU, we basically become a US vassal state. That would be far worse than Europe for us.

Globalisation means different things to different people, but anyway, I'm not suggesting ignoring what's going on in the world around us, just that we need to be careful as becoming increasingly dependent on foreign countries makes us vulnerable, as recent events have shown. I don't believe for one minute that the BNP has the answer to all our problems, or that they even have the intellectual or practical experience in their team to form a government at present, but those things should not detract from the fact that they do advocate policies that could put us in a better position. The experience will arrive as the ideas become more mainstream, and a diverse range of talents are attracted to the organisation.

As for our subservience to the Yanks, I would expect that has a lot to do with the current situation regarding the sharing of intelligence concerning Muslim terrorists. BNP policies would address some of that issue, as you'll be aware. But maintaining a relationship with the US is still a good thing, as long as they know where the boundaries are.