Protesters in US Capital Building
Jiheisho wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
The corporate wheels are paving the way for Biden to pardon Trump. I've read a couple of commentaries advocating for that, this one from NBC:
https://www-nbcnews-com.cdn.ampproject. ... cna1247986
I told you the corrupt take care of each other, despite the performative political theater in which they engage.
https://www-nbcnews-com.cdn.ampproject. ... cna1247986
I told you the corrupt take care of each other, despite the performative political theater in which they engage.
Why do people always confuse opinion with fact? This is an opinion piece.
I didn't say it was fact, I simply stated this is how it starts.
There is also a difference between personal cynicism and fact. Democrats are trying to oust the president right now. A pardon seem unlikely.
I'm cynical to be sure, but what I posted isn't cynicism. It's a valid point based on my undetstanding of how the system operates, and studying history.
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Biscuitman wrote:
People who spent 4 years gleefully dismissing claims that just this kind could happen while calling it 'trump derangement syndrome' need to take a long hard look at themselves. They absolutely wont though.
Their apparently delusional thinking seems to be something similar to the Dunning-Kruger Effect -- they simply do not know what they do not know -- they fail to even realize they could be ignorant.
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QuantumChemist wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Mr. Trump's decades of ruling from the "corner office" did nothing to prepare him for four years of presiding from the Oval Office. Mix that in with his infantile sore loser reactions, and his lies about "It's not fair" and "cheater, cheater" somehow seem to all make sense.
Note that I am not at all trying to excuse his behavior; it is just that when you perceive (as I do) Mr. Trump as an overgrown child who is used to getting his own way, it seems only natural that he would develop into a tyrant who blames everyone around him for his own failures.
What a loser!
Note that I am not at all trying to excuse his behavior; it is just that when you perceive (as I do) Mr. Trump as an overgrown child who is used to getting his own way, it seems only natural that he would develop into a tyrant who blames everyone around him for his own failures.
What a loser!
Trump has now decided that he will not be at the inauguration of Biden and Harris. I assumed that was a forgone conclusion months ago when he lost the election:
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-bi ... 26650.html
It would be fitting if he was quickly removed from office (25th Amendment or impeachment) and have all presidential perks revoked for life, including protection (the Secret Service). Impeachment from both houses of Congress would prevent him from holding political office for life in this country. Guess that would ruin his plans for a return campaign in four years. We might get him to really cry at that point, not to mention when he ends up in a prison cell. He should be charged with a minimum of five counts of negligent man-slaughter for inciting the riot, with double time given for the specific death of the police officer.
I wonder if Trump is still planning to go through with his counter-inauguration.
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Fnord wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
The mob that overran the Capital never worked in the corner office. The Republican support of white supremacy and authoritarianism has fueled this crowd. Our social media companies have given them the platform to organize and spread their ideology. There already seems to be some organization for more right-wing protests on Jan 20. Trump did not exist in a vacuum.
Without the leader, the followers have no direction or purpose.They still have the Turner diaries
Kraichgauer wrote:
QuantumChemist wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Mr. Trump's decades of ruling from the "corner office" did nothing to prepare him for four years of presiding from the Oval Office. Mix that in with his infantile sore loser reactions, and his lies about "It's not fair" and "cheater, cheater" somehow seem to all make sense.
Note that I am not at all trying to excuse his behavior; it is just that when you perceive (as I do) Mr. Trump as an overgrown child who is used to getting his own way, it seems only natural that he would develop into a tyrant who blames everyone around him for his own failures.
What a loser!
Note that I am not at all trying to excuse his behavior; it is just that when you perceive (as I do) Mr. Trump as an overgrown child who is used to getting his own way, it seems only natural that he would develop into a tyrant who blames everyone around him for his own failures.
What a loser!
Trump has now decided that he will not be at the inauguration of Biden and Harris. I assumed that was a forgone conclusion months ago when he lost the election:
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-bi ... 26650.html
It would be fitting if he was quickly removed from office (25th Amendment or impeachment) and have all presidential perks revoked for life, including protection (the Secret Service). Impeachment from both houses of Congress would prevent him from holding political office for life in this country. Guess that would ruin his plans for a return campaign in four years. We might get him to really cry at that point, not to mention when he ends up in a prison cell. He should be charged with a minimum of five counts of negligent man-slaughter for inciting the riot, with double time given for the specific death of the police officer.
I wonder if Trump is still planning to go through with his counter-inauguration.
That's what he told his cult followers
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... y-n1249595
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cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
QuantumChemist wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Mr. Trump's decades of ruling from the "corner office" did nothing to prepare him for four years of presiding from the Oval Office. Mix that in with his infantile sore loser reactions, and his lies about "It's not fair" and "cheater, cheater" somehow seem to all make sense.
Note that I am not at all trying to excuse his behavior; it is just that when you perceive (as I do) Mr. Trump as an overgrown child who is used to getting his own way, it seems only natural that he would develop into a tyrant who blames everyone around him for his own failures.
What a loser!
Note that I am not at all trying to excuse his behavior; it is just that when you perceive (as I do) Mr. Trump as an overgrown child who is used to getting his own way, it seems only natural that he would develop into a tyrant who blames everyone around him for his own failures.
What a loser!
Trump has now decided that he will not be at the inauguration of Biden and Harris. I assumed that was a forgone conclusion months ago when he lost the election:
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-bi ... 26650.html
It would be fitting if he was quickly removed from office (25th Amendment or impeachment) and have all presidential perks revoked for life, including protection (the Secret Service). Impeachment from both houses of Congress would prevent him from holding political office for life in this country. Guess that would ruin his plans for a return campaign in four years. We might get him to really cry at that point, not to mention when he ends up in a prison cell. He should be charged with a minimum of five counts of negligent man-slaughter for inciting the riot, with double time given for the specific death of the police officer.
I wonder if Trump is still planning to go through with his counter-inauguration.
That's what he told his cult followers
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... y-n1249595
Well, let's see if Trump shows up to appease his true believers. I suspect that the failure of his riot might have broken his spirit - - hopefully.
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Kraichgauer wrote:
Well, let's see if Trump shows up to appease his true believers. I suspect that the failure of his riot might have broken his spirit - - hopefully.
Trump is a wily old fox who has seen/created a lot of stuff ups yet he's a billionaire. He wouldn't have seriously expected a bunch of drunken confederate thugs to overwhelm the FBI and overthrow the government.
He is just abusing his power partly out of spite, partly because he wants to avoid impeachment proceedings following his dethronement.
cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Well, let's see if Trump shows up to appease his true believers. I suspect that the failure of his riot might have broken his spirit -- hopefully.
Trump is a wily old fox who has seen/created a lot of stuff ups yet he's a billionaire. He wouldn't have seriously expected a bunch of drunken confederate thugs to overwhelm the FBI and overthrow the government. He is just abusing his power partly out of spite, partly because he wants to avoid impeachment proceedings following his dethronement.In my opinion, Mr. Trump is so used to tyrannically directing his empire from the corner office that he simply has no concept of the need to diplomatically preside over his administration from the Oval Office.
I believe that he is baffled and disappointed over the failure of his dictatorial methods to be accepted as normal outside of the corporate environment (as opposed to the diplomatic methods in a governmental environment) that his mind has finally snapped, forcing him to throw all caution to the winds and try to force his will on America through his proxy -- his own MAGA mob-army.
Of course, I could be wrong on all counts, but this seems to be the simplest explanation for his actions.
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Political pundits and elected officials in Washington, D.C., expressed shock that this could happen in the United States. Cries of "this is not what America is" or "no one could have predicted this" were frequent.
"Those of us that are Black, brown, Indigenous, AAPI, Southern and rural and that had watched and studied history since the 1800s know that this is actually very, very possible in America," she said. "Just because folks don't believe those of us that come from targeted and marginalized communities, doesn't mean that we haven't been predicting this all the while. The South has been saying that white supremacists in elected positions is a dangerous and consequential matter that this country needs to pay attention to."
"This isn't new," Henderson said. "There are just dots that aren't being connected. And so I felt frustrated that my friends and I survived Charlottesville and said that white supremacist violence was on the rise, that we survived and fought back."
"People like me, Black people who have been doing work to actually put this country in a place where we're practicing our ideals around justice and liberty for everybody, are being designated Black identity extremists, being compared to the same people" that are attacking the Capitol, she said. "I felt frustrated, I felt empathy for every targeted and marginalized community in this country that was like, 'God, man, they really clearly treat us differently than they treat white people and all of the hard feelings that come with that.' "
That hypocrisy was not surprising, she said.
"It just exaggerated the contradictions to me around how the state and how police respond to Black and Indigenous and Latinx and Asian and Pacific Islander folks when we protest," she said. "Versus how they responded to gun-toting white supremacists that were coming into the Capitol."
"Those of us that are Black, brown, Indigenous, AAPI, Southern and rural and that had watched and studied history since the 1800s know that this is actually very, very possible in America," she said. "Just because folks don't believe those of us that come from targeted and marginalized communities, doesn't mean that we haven't been predicting this all the while. The South has been saying that white supremacists in elected positions is a dangerous and consequential matter that this country needs to pay attention to."
"This isn't new," Henderson said. "There are just dots that aren't being connected. And so I felt frustrated that my friends and I survived Charlottesville and said that white supremacist violence was on the rise, that we survived and fought back."
"People like me, Black people who have been doing work to actually put this country in a place where we're practicing our ideals around justice and liberty for everybody, are being designated Black identity extremists, being compared to the same people" that are attacking the Capitol, she said. "I felt frustrated, I felt empathy for every targeted and marginalized community in this country that was like, 'God, man, they really clearly treat us differently than they treat white people and all of the hard feelings that come with that.' "
That hypocrisy was not surprising, she said.
"It just exaggerated the contradictions to me around how the state and how police respond to Black and Indigenous and Latinx and Asian and Pacific Islander folks when we protest," she said. "Versus how they responded to gun-toting white supremacists that were coming into the Capitol."
They knew this was coming, they knew white supremacy was dangerous.
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DC police made far more arrests at the height of Black Lives Matter protests than during the Capitol clash
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/us/dc-po ... index.html
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Black Lives Matter protesters in Washington, DC, last summer found themselves facing a massive show of force: military helicopters hovering over the city, National Guard troops patrolling the streets and tear gas filling the air.
When a mob of President Trump's supporters broke into the US Capitol on Wednesday, they were confronted by a far smaller police presence -- and by the end of the day, far fewer of the rioters ended up in custody.
DC police arrested more than five times as many people at the height of the Black Lives Matter protests last summer than they did during the day of insurrection at the Capitol, according to a CNN analysis of Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) data. And many of those arrested amid this week's unrest were detained on less serious charges.
The stark disparity in arrests came even though more DC officers were injured during the Capitol mayhem, which left five people dead, including a police officer.
The District's police made 61 "unrest-related" arrests on Wednesday, compared with 316 on June 1, when protesters and rioters filled city streets a week after Minneapolis police killed George Floyd. That was the same day as Trump's infamous Bible-holding photo op, when law enforcement officers dispersed mostly peaceful protesters with tear gas.
Left: Police officers push back demonstrators and shoot tear gas next to St. John's Episcopal Church outside of the White House on June 1, 2020. (Jose Luis Magana/AFP/Getty Images) Right: President Donald Trump holds up a Bible outside the church, minutes later. (Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images)
Left: Police officers push back demonstrators and shoot tear gas next to St. John's Episcopal Church outside of the White House on June 1, 2020. (Jose Luis Magana/AFP/Getty Images) Right: President Donald Trump holds up a Bible outside the church, minutes later. (Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images)
Even including 14 additional people who were arrested by the US Capitol Police, a separate agency, the number of people both agencies arrested amid Wednesday's tumult was less than a fourth of those detained by city officers alone on June 1.
Activists in DC said they were shocked that a deadly assault on the heart of American democracy led to far fewer people in police custody than the clashes that erupted during protests over law enforcement brutality.
"It's so, so insulting to racial justice activists that have been bringing attention to Black lives that have been lost," said Anthony Lorenzo Green, one of the activists leading the Black Lives Matter DC group. "The way they chose to secure the Capitol was to let everybody go -- they let these people back on our streets."
If Black Lives Matter protesters had tried to enter the Capitol instead of the predominantly White pro-Trump crowd, Green said, "we would be shackled, we would be carried away, we would be shot, we would be dead."
Supporters of President Donald Trump try to break through a police barrier at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021. (AP Photo/John Minchillo)
Supporters of President Donald Trump try to break through a police barrier at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021. (AP Photo/John Minchillo)
Fewer arrests, more officer injuries
The arrest disparities are especially stark considering that more MPD officers were injured this week. The department said 56 of its officers were injured while responding to the insurrection on Wednesday. In comparison, the department told local news station WUSA in June that 21 officers were injured over the 10 days between May 29 and June 7.
Then-Attorney General William Barr has said that including federal troops and agents sent to the city, about 150 law enforcement personnel suffered injuries in DC over a multi-day period during the protests.
The Capitol attack was also deadlier than the summer protests: Brian Sicknick, a Capitol Police officer, died Thursday night "due to injuries sustained while on-duty" as he was "physically engaging with protesters,"according to his department. Sicknick's death has prompted a federal murder investigation. Four other people also died Wednesday, including a woman shot by another Capitol officer and three others who suffered what authorities described as "medical emergencies."
No law enforcement officers died in DC while responding to the protests and riots over the summer.
Of course, the protests during the summer and the Capitol insurrection this week were very different events -- for example, there were likely far more protesters spread out over a wider area of the city last summer than there were on Wednesday.
Kristen Metzger, an MPD spokeswoman, said the department didn't make more arrests Wednesday in part because, unlike during the summer protests, the city's curfew wasn't announced in advance of the incident.
"When we announce (a curfew) in advance, we have enough resources to get people into the vans and we're ready to make mass arrests," Metzger told CNN. "Since this was done so late in the day, we weren't ready to make mass arrests like that until the curfew was put in place later that afternoon."
Metzger also noted that the Capitol is the jurisdiction of the US Capitol Police and that the district's police were only called for assistance after demonstrators breached the building's security.
"At that point, it was just controlling the situation and getting them out of the Capitol building," she said.
Racial justice leaders are reeling from the 'hypocrisy' in the police response to the US Capitol riots
Racial justice leaders are reeling from the 'hypocrisy' in the police response to the US Capitol riots
But Monica Hopkins, the executive director of the ACLU of DC, said she couldn't believe the department wasn't more prepared -- especially because pro-Trump figures had been openly planning their riot for weeks, and the MPD had just arrested a leader of the far-right Proud Boys group in DC days before the Capitol insurrection.
"We are a city that deals with mass demonstrations all the time," Hopkins said. "For any law enforcement agency in this city to say they were caught flat-footed or they didn't know what was coming is just incredibly false."
Capitol Police spokespeople did not respond to a request for comment, but said in a statement that the attack on the building was unprecedented and that the agency would review its security planning. Steven Sund, the department's chief, announced Thursday that he would resign next week.
There will likely be additional arrests connected with the Capitol intrusion. Michael Sherwin, the acting US Attorney for DC, said Thursday that federal officials plan to review social media footage from the bedlam and arrest people they identify. Federal prosecutors have already charged 15 people, Sherwin said.
US Capitol Police detain rioters outside of the House Chamber during a joint session of Congress on January 6, 2021. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
US Capitol Police detain rioters outside of the House Chamber during a joint session of Congress on January 6, 2021. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
Capitol protesters facing less harsh charges
So far, at least, there are also notable disparities in the seriousness of charges facing the Capitol arrestees and those arrested during the summer protests.
Most of the people arrested Wednesday were held on misdemeanor curfew violations or unlawful entry charges. DC police arrested only one person on a charge they specifically listed as a felony: a 39-year-old man accused of rioting and unlawful entry at the Capitol. His arrest doesn't necessarily represent all felony arrests made Wednesday, since DC police did not always include this information in its data. It's possible that more people could face felony charges as prosecutors move forward with their cases.
At least 29 people were arrested on felony charges on June 1, most of whom faced burglary and rioting charges, the MPD data showed. On another night of Black Lives Matter protests — August 14, when demonstrators chanted the names of people killed by the local police department before clashing with officers — police arrested at least 37 people on felony rioting charges.
DC Mayor Muriel Bowser's office did not respond to requests for comment about the disparity in arrests and the charges. Bowser has criticized the federal response to the insurrection, noting at a press conference Wednesday that "we saw a different posture used" by federal officials as compared to the highly militarized response to the summer protests.
While many of the demonstrators who filled the streets during protests over the death of George Floyd were peaceful, there was also rioting and looting in the city over several days in late May and early June. Sporadic protests continued throughout the rest of the year — there were five other days later in 2020 when DC police made more than two dozen unrest-related arrests. Some of the arrests from December appear to be tied to another pro-Trump rally.
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President-elect Joe Biden focused on the racial disparities in a speech Thursday, saying "no one can tell me that if that had been a group of Black Lives Matter protesting yesterday, they wouldn't have been treated very, very differently than the mob of thugs that stormed the Capitol."
The data released by the police department also shows that the people arrested during the Black Lives Matter protests were more local than those arrested this week, most of whom flocked to the capital from elsewhere around the country.
Among arrestees whose state of residence was available, police data showed 94% of those arrested between late May and August were from DC, Maryland or Virginia. Only 25% of those arrested Wednesday or early Thursday morning were from the same region.
Hopkins, the ACLU executive, said that the disparity between the treatment of "White supremacists coming to our city" and Black protesters was a textbook example of the disparities in policing.
The events show that police reformers should be paying attention to "not only what police do," she said, but also "when officers choose to do something and when they choose to do nothing."
When a mob of President Trump's supporters broke into the US Capitol on Wednesday, they were confronted by a far smaller police presence -- and by the end of the day, far fewer of the rioters ended up in custody.
DC police arrested more than five times as many people at the height of the Black Lives Matter protests last summer than they did during the day of insurrection at the Capitol, according to a CNN analysis of Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) data. And many of those arrested amid this week's unrest were detained on less serious charges.
The stark disparity in arrests came even though more DC officers were injured during the Capitol mayhem, which left five people dead, including a police officer.
The District's police made 61 "unrest-related" arrests on Wednesday, compared with 316 on June 1, when protesters and rioters filled city streets a week after Minneapolis police killed George Floyd. That was the same day as Trump's infamous Bible-holding photo op, when law enforcement officers dispersed mostly peaceful protesters with tear gas.
Left: Police officers push back demonstrators and shoot tear gas next to St. John's Episcopal Church outside of the White House on June 1, 2020. (Jose Luis Magana/AFP/Getty Images) Right: President Donald Trump holds up a Bible outside the church, minutes later. (Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images)
Left: Police officers push back demonstrators and shoot tear gas next to St. John's Episcopal Church outside of the White House on June 1, 2020. (Jose Luis Magana/AFP/Getty Images) Right: President Donald Trump holds up a Bible outside the church, minutes later. (Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images)
Even including 14 additional people who were arrested by the US Capitol Police, a separate agency, the number of people both agencies arrested amid Wednesday's tumult was less than a fourth of those detained by city officers alone on June 1.
Activists in DC said they were shocked that a deadly assault on the heart of American democracy led to far fewer people in police custody than the clashes that erupted during protests over law enforcement brutality.
"It's so, so insulting to racial justice activists that have been bringing attention to Black lives that have been lost," said Anthony Lorenzo Green, one of the activists leading the Black Lives Matter DC group. "The way they chose to secure the Capitol was to let everybody go -- they let these people back on our streets."
If Black Lives Matter protesters had tried to enter the Capitol instead of the predominantly White pro-Trump crowd, Green said, "we would be shackled, we would be carried away, we would be shot, we would be dead."
Supporters of President Donald Trump try to break through a police barrier at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021. (AP Photo/John Minchillo)
Supporters of President Donald Trump try to break through a police barrier at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021. (AP Photo/John Minchillo)
Fewer arrests, more officer injuries
The arrest disparities are especially stark considering that more MPD officers were injured this week. The department said 56 of its officers were injured while responding to the insurrection on Wednesday. In comparison, the department told local news station WUSA in June that 21 officers were injured over the 10 days between May 29 and June 7.
Then-Attorney General William Barr has said that including federal troops and agents sent to the city, about 150 law enforcement personnel suffered injuries in DC over a multi-day period during the protests.
The Capitol attack was also deadlier than the summer protests: Brian Sicknick, a Capitol Police officer, died Thursday night "due to injuries sustained while on-duty" as he was "physically engaging with protesters,"according to his department. Sicknick's death has prompted a federal murder investigation. Four other people also died Wednesday, including a woman shot by another Capitol officer and three others who suffered what authorities described as "medical emergencies."
No law enforcement officers died in DC while responding to the protests and riots over the summer.
Of course, the protests during the summer and the Capitol insurrection this week were very different events -- for example, there were likely far more protesters spread out over a wider area of the city last summer than there were on Wednesday.
Kristen Metzger, an MPD spokeswoman, said the department didn't make more arrests Wednesday in part because, unlike during the summer protests, the city's curfew wasn't announced in advance of the incident.
"When we announce (a curfew) in advance, we have enough resources to get people into the vans and we're ready to make mass arrests," Metzger told CNN. "Since this was done so late in the day, we weren't ready to make mass arrests like that until the curfew was put in place later that afternoon."
Metzger also noted that the Capitol is the jurisdiction of the US Capitol Police and that the district's police were only called for assistance after demonstrators breached the building's security.
"At that point, it was just controlling the situation and getting them out of the Capitol building," she said.
Racial justice leaders are reeling from the 'hypocrisy' in the police response to the US Capitol riots
Racial justice leaders are reeling from the 'hypocrisy' in the police response to the US Capitol riots
But Monica Hopkins, the executive director of the ACLU of DC, said she couldn't believe the department wasn't more prepared -- especially because pro-Trump figures had been openly planning their riot for weeks, and the MPD had just arrested a leader of the far-right Proud Boys group in DC days before the Capitol insurrection.
"We are a city that deals with mass demonstrations all the time," Hopkins said. "For any law enforcement agency in this city to say they were caught flat-footed or they didn't know what was coming is just incredibly false."
Capitol Police spokespeople did not respond to a request for comment, but said in a statement that the attack on the building was unprecedented and that the agency would review its security planning. Steven Sund, the department's chief, announced Thursday that he would resign next week.
There will likely be additional arrests connected with the Capitol intrusion. Michael Sherwin, the acting US Attorney for DC, said Thursday that federal officials plan to review social media footage from the bedlam and arrest people they identify. Federal prosecutors have already charged 15 people, Sherwin said.
US Capitol Police detain rioters outside of the House Chamber during a joint session of Congress on January 6, 2021. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
US Capitol Police detain rioters outside of the House Chamber during a joint session of Congress on January 6, 2021. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
Capitol protesters facing less harsh charges
So far, at least, there are also notable disparities in the seriousness of charges facing the Capitol arrestees and those arrested during the summer protests.
Most of the people arrested Wednesday were held on misdemeanor curfew violations or unlawful entry charges. DC police arrested only one person on a charge they specifically listed as a felony: a 39-year-old man accused of rioting and unlawful entry at the Capitol. His arrest doesn't necessarily represent all felony arrests made Wednesday, since DC police did not always include this information in its data. It's possible that more people could face felony charges as prosecutors move forward with their cases.
At least 29 people were arrested on felony charges on June 1, most of whom faced burglary and rioting charges, the MPD data showed. On another night of Black Lives Matter protests — August 14, when demonstrators chanted the names of people killed by the local police department before clashing with officers — police arrested at least 37 people on felony rioting charges.
DC Mayor Muriel Bowser's office did not respond to requests for comment about the disparity in arrests and the charges. Bowser has criticized the federal response to the insurrection, noting at a press conference Wednesday that "we saw a different posture used" by federal officials as compared to the highly militarized response to the summer protests.
While many of the demonstrators who filled the streets during protests over the death of George Floyd were peaceful, there was also rioting and looting in the city over several days in late May and early June. Sporadic protests continued throughout the rest of the year — there were five other days later in 2020 when DC police made more than two dozen unrest-related arrests. Some of the arrests from December appear to be tied to another pro-Trump rally.
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President-elect Joe Biden focused on the racial disparities in a speech Thursday, saying "no one can tell me that if that had been a group of Black Lives Matter protesting yesterday, they wouldn't have been treated very, very differently than the mob of thugs that stormed the Capitol."
The data released by the police department also shows that the people arrested during the Black Lives Matter protests were more local than those arrested this week, most of whom flocked to the capital from elsewhere around the country.
Among arrestees whose state of residence was available, police data showed 94% of those arrested between late May and August were from DC, Maryland or Virginia. Only 25% of those arrested Wednesday or early Thursday morning were from the same region.
Hopkins, the ACLU executive, said that the disparity between the treatment of "White supremacists coming to our city" and Black protesters was a textbook example of the disparities in policing.
The events show that police reformers should be paying attention to "not only what police do," she said, but also "when officers choose to do something and when they choose to do nothing."
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DC police made far more arrests at the height of Black Lives Matter protests than during the Capitol clash
Arrests? We don't need no stinkin' arrests!
In this video alone, I count at least 55 MAGAs who simply walked out of the Capitol with a police officer politely holding the door for them. And there was plenty more inside.
Each and every one of them had at this point committed a crime by even being in the building without permission, as per 18 U.S. Code § 1752 - Restricted building or grounds.
Now, this is either (1) negligence on behalf of the officers on site, (2) negligence on behalf of those whose job was to ensure that *enough* officers were on site or (3) a combination of both.
Trump Lovers who were at the Capital riot are already losing their jobs after being identified.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/us/capit ... index.html
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A man wearing his Maryland company's ID is terminated
Navistar, a direct marketing company in Maryland, announced that an employee had been terminated after he was photographed wearing his company ID badge inside the breached Capitol building.
"While we support all employees' right to peaceful, lawful exercise of free speech, any employee demonstrating dangerous conduct that endangers the health and safety of others will no longer have an employment opportunity with Navistar Direct Marketing," the company said in a statement provided to CNN.
Real estate company ends its relationship with broker
A Chicago real estate company has cut ties with one of its licensed agents following social media posts showing her presence at the US Capitol on Wednesday.
Libby Andrews, 56, tells CNN that she was there to support the President, not violence, and that she learned of her firing through an email "blast."
Andrews said she didn't know about the day's rioting and destruction until after returning to a nearby hotel where someone was showing images on social media. Andrews said she recalls seeing social media posts about "a skirmish with police" in DC, near where she was, and thought "that's not happening, that's fake news, that's fake news," she said.
Navistar, a direct marketing company in Maryland, announced that an employee had been terminated after he was photographed wearing his company ID badge inside the breached Capitol building.
"While we support all employees' right to peaceful, lawful exercise of free speech, any employee demonstrating dangerous conduct that endangers the health and safety of others will no longer have an employment opportunity with Navistar Direct Marketing," the company said in a statement provided to CNN.
Real estate company ends its relationship with broker
A Chicago real estate company has cut ties with one of its licensed agents following social media posts showing her presence at the US Capitol on Wednesday.
Libby Andrews, 56, tells CNN that she was there to support the President, not violence, and that she learned of her firing through an email "blast."
Andrews said she didn't know about the day's rioting and destruction until after returning to a nearby hotel where someone was showing images on social media. Andrews said she recalls seeing social media posts about "a skirmish with police" in DC, near where she was, and thought "that's not happening, that's fake news, that's fake news," she said.
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The real estate company released a statement, which reads, "@properties has always acknowledged an individual's right to their own beliefs -- political and otherwise. The company also respects everyone's right to peaceful protest. However, this agent's personal choice to acknowledge, document and celebrate, in the public forum of social media, her participation in the widely condemned actions of -- in her own words -- "storming the capital" in Washington, DC, simply crossed the line in terms of @properties' standards of conduct. As a result, the company made the decision to end its affiliation with her."
The company provided two social media posts to CNN, which the company said show Andrews was part of the storming of the Capitol.
The company provided two social media posts to CNN, which the company said show Andrews was part of the storming of the Capitol.
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But of course all these people are going to feel oppressed. Sorry, it's about time white supremist lose. Of course they are going to feel oppressed, they want to keep this country white and keep the minorities down. As they get more fair rights, the more oppressed white supremist are going to feel.
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League_Girl wrote:
But of course all these people are going to feel oppressed. Sorry, it's about time white supremist lose. Of course they are going to feel oppressed, they want to keep this country white and keep the minorities down. As they get more fair rights, the more oppressed white supremist are going to feel.
They have been feeling that way since 1865. They even created a myth to defend themselves and deflect attention away from their racism, known as the "Lost Cause."
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League_Girl wrote:
DC police made far more arrests at the height of Black Lives Matter protests than during the Capitol clash
Arrests? We don't need no stinkin' arrests!
In this video alone, I count at least 55 MAGAs who simply walked out of the Capitol with a police officer politely holding the door for them. And there was plenty more inside.
Each and every one of them had at this point committed a crime by even being in the building without permission, as per 18 U.S. Code § 1752 - Restricted building or grounds.
Now, this is either (1) negligence on behalf of the officers on site, (2) negligence on behalf of those whose job was to ensure that *enough* officers were on site or (3) a combination of both.
I didn't see any arrests, just them leaving and they even admitted they won't be peaceful next time but way to show their faces clearly. Good luck with their current employment.
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You could go in disguise like a buffalo and then no one would recognize you and you would evade the FBI. At least that is the theory...
Well, it turns out his cunning disguise didn't work. He's been arrested, and has been revealed to be a QAnon influencer from Arizona (sorry righty tighties who tried to claim he was Antifa). He has since told the FBI that he showed up at the capitol because Trump told him to... along with thousands of others.
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