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07 Feb 2022, 6:55 pm

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Seems gofundme has now labeled it as an occupation and pulled the remaining funds. See them about a refund if you donated. I guess Trudeau got tired of being out of the media spotlight.


It seems their two big campaigns on GiveSendGo are both 404'd at the moment.


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07 Feb 2022, 7:03 pm

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This is bringing out the scary monsters and super creeps on both sides. The worst of humanity.

Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a human being.

I wish people could protest, whatever their belief or whatever the topic, without hurting others.


Genuine question. When BLM was burning down cities and destroying black businesses did you complain?
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It was stated by BLM supporters and other left-wing activists over and over and over that violence and destruction was not acceptable. Full cities were never burned down, although we do know that some protests did get out of hand and turn into riots, and more than one neighborhood was devastated. Was BLM to blame or were other factions that attach to civil unrest for their own reasons? Quite often it was the later; probably most often, based on the research I've done, but attribution will always be cloudy. Most BLM protests occurred without incident or damage, and I can say that with confidence because the images of people I know at those protests often populated my social media feeds. The news was providing a distorted picture because, well, peaceful actions aren't news, and I hold back judging the truck protest for the same reason. As for anyone that went too far and rioted in connection with the BLM movement, it's simple: arrest them. We have a right to protest, we don't have a right to riot. As for the areas that did suffer severe damage, I did my part to help them out with cash to rebuild. Basically, it feels to me like you are playing a straw man game throwing BLM into the mix. Every action has to be looked at for what occurs in that action, not the ideology behind it, and not compared to something from more than a year ago.

Reality is nefarious elements like to use peaceful protests as an excuse to create discord and violence. Those nefarious elements usually having nothing at all to do with the organizers of the protests nor the goals of the protests. It is the need of those elements to attach themselves to what would otherwise be peaceful that creates a stain on humanity, not those who wish to raise their voices in protest and be heard.


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07 Feb 2022, 7:45 pm

Canada court silences protesters' horns, police seize fuel

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Police in Canada's national capital have seized thousands of liters of fuel and removed an oil tanker as part of a crackdown to end days long protest against the government's health measures, police said on Monday.

Honking has disrupted the normally quiet life of the residents in downtown Ottawa and a judge granted an interim injunction against the noise on Monday.

A "Freedom Convoy" has disrupted life in downtown Ottawa for 11 days now. What started as a movement opposing a Canadian vaccine mandate for cross-border drivers - a requirement mirrored by a U.S. rule - has morphed into a rallying point against Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and many Canadian governments' public health measures.

"We are turning up the heat in every way we possibly can," Ottawa Police Chief Peter Sloly told reporters, days after he said there may not be a "policing solution" to the occupation.

"We are asking for a major push of resources to come in the next 72 hours."

While Ottawa awoke to its second week of what its political and policing leaders now describe as a siege, Sloly said on Monday activity has decreased at the blockades.

This weekend, police counted 1,000 trucks and 5,000 protesters, down from 3,000 trucks and 10,000 to 15,000 protesters last weekend, Sloly added.

Deputy Police Chief Steve Bell told city councillors Monday that police had received "active threats to public figures throughout this occupation," which they continue to investigate.

Ottawa police have received help from hundreds of officers in other police agencies, but they say it is not enough. Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson asked for reinforcementsin a letter Monday to Trudeau and Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino.

"The occupation has turned into an aggressive and hateful occupation of our neighbourhoods," he wrote. "People are living in fear and are terrified." He called the honking "tantamount to psychological warfare."

The 10-day injunction is part of a class-action lawsuit brought on behalf of downtown Ottawa residents, some of whom have said they feel unsafe in their own neighbourhood.

A short stretch of Metcalfe Street in downtown Ottawa, home to Canada's parliament, central bank, and buildings including Trudeau's office, smelled of campfire on Monday. A clustering of trucks, cars and tractors without trailers bore signs deriding everything from vaccines and mandates to Canada's carbon tax.

One sign showed a poster of Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which guarantees rights including that of life, liberty and security of the person - subject to "reasonable limits."

Packets of water bottles, briquettes and diapers were piled high beside open-sided white tents with tables of food.

There was also evidence of pushback from residents. Small signs in the ground-floor windows of an apartment building a few blocks away said: "GO HOME MORONS" and "VACCINES SAVE LIVES."

Trudeau, who is isolating after testing positive for COVID-19, did not attend the press conference and missed question period in the parliament.

On Sunday night, police began removing gas and fuel supplies at a logistics encampment set up by protesters after the city's mayor declared a state of emergency on Sunday.

A well-organized supply chain -- including portable saunas, a community kitchen and bouncy castles for children -- has sustained the protesters. It has relied partly on funding from sympathizers in the United States, police said.

Former U.S. President Donald Trump and Tesla (TSLA.O) CEO Elon Musk have praised the truckers.


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07 Feb 2022, 8:00 pm

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I've been hesitating to post this publicly, but I feel I must for the safety of downtown Ottawa residents. Here are the facts:

Last night two arsonists brought a full package of firestarter bricks into our building's lobby at 5AM. The building is located at Metcalfe & Lisgar. 1/

We were able to see the building's video footage of the event. These two men got into the lobby, and began lighting the full package. The building is old and has wood paneling on the walls. It is also located at the epicentre of the convoy protests in Ottawa's core. 2/

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One of them taped up the door handles so no one could get in or out. This is the most insidious part of the experience besides the lighting of the fire. 3/

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After a night of blaring horns and fireworks until 4AM, some residents had yelled & pleaded with protesters outside to stop. As the fire was being lit, a tenant walked by and nervously asked who they were. One admitted being part of the convoy protests. 4/

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The tenant quickly got into the elevator and arsonists continued to ignite the package. Once lit, it grew and nearly touched the wood panel walls. The arsonists escaped out the side door as video shows the fire growing. 5/

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After speaking with many residents, it became clear that certain protesters outside became very aggressive and angry at the tenants in the hours leading up to the arson. Not all protesters, but a few screamed and were clearly upset by the confrontation earlier in the night. 6/

A good Samaritan was walking by the door outside and saw the fire. Luckily the door opened after some struggle with the taped handles, he got in and was able to extinguish the flames. 7/

It is clear to us, as residents, that this was a blatant reprisal by protesters. Not only have they subjected Ottawa residents to widespread harassment, assault, and aggression, but now an attempt to light an entire building on fire. 8/


The entire thread can be read here: https://twitter.com/TiMunoz/status/1490473045965815812


I saw that last night... It's strange that a tennant saw someone trying to light a fire in the building, then simply took a lift, rather than leaving the building - and that they didn't even bother to call the police\fire brigade, wouldn't you think?

In fact, it wasn't until the following day that the police were made aware of it, not through the person who posted about it contacting them, but instead through the twitter posts being forwarded to them by another person.

On the positive side, it shouldn't be too difficult to find a purple-haired protester, nor a mask wearing protester participating in a protest over mandatory masks - Hopefully they are identified and arrested soon:
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Arson investigation: We are asking for help to identify two individuals as persons of interest in an arson investigation.

The incident occurred in the early morning hours of Feb. 6 at a building in the 200 block of Lisgar St. @CrimeStoppersOT

https://ottawapolice.ca/Modules/News/i...
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Source: https://twitter.com/OttawaPolice/status/1490788045355950082
With such realtively clear images, it shouldn't be too hard to track these people down (I believe even Mr Andy Ngo has posted a request for people to help identify them: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1490829086402523136.

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I don't know why, but this certainly gives off vibes similar to the Jussie Smollett "assault"



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07 Feb 2022, 8:07 pm

Am hoping they get identified and prosecuted that is heinous behavior and certainly NEEDS. To be addressed.!


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07 Feb 2022, 8:11 pm

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txfz1 wrote:
Seems gofundme has now labeled it as an occupation and pulled the remaining funds. See them about a refund if you donated. I guess Trudeau got tired of being out of the media spotlight.


It seems their two big campaigns on GiveSendGo are both 404'd at the moment.


Tha main one doesn't seem to have any issues:
https://www.givesendgo.com/FreedomConvoy2022

It looks to have raised over half the amount the previous site attempted to withhold (to ensure they got to skim 5% off for themselves), and most of the previous donators are unlikely to have received their refunds yet to be able to donate through the new campaign, either.



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07 Feb 2022, 8:22 pm

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I thought the crowd looked normal. How many swastikas did you count?


1 home made flag ( Canadian flag with painted on slogans - No Pass , f**k Trudeau ) was shown 3 times and 1 actual nazi flag was shown twice. My guess is 2 although video is grainy and difficult to tell as some other Canadian flags appear to have slogans.


From what I have seen, the nazi flag wasn't being flown by a "white supremecist" (or for any similar\related reason), but instead as a way to show the person holding it was expressing the belief that the canadian government (and Mr Trudeau in particular) were acting as Nazi's, in connection with the flag flown above it on the same staff (https://www.cija.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/22-01-30-nazi-flag-trucker-protest-1280x670.jpg).



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07 Feb 2022, 8:33 pm

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It was stated by BLM supporters and other left-wing activists over and over and over that violence and destruction was not acceptable. Full cities were never burned down, although we do know that some protests did get out of hand and turn into riots, and more than one neighborhood was devastated. Was BLM to blame or were other factions that attach to civil unrest for their own reasons? Quite often it was the later; probably most often, based on the research I've done, but attribution will always be cloudy. Most BLM protests occurred without incident or damage, and I can say that with confidence because the images of people I know at those protests often populated my social media feeds. The news was providing a distorted picture because, well, peaceful actions aren't news, and I hold back judging the truck protest for the same reason. As for anyone that went too far and rioted in connection with the BLM movement, it's simple: arrest them. We have a right to protest, we don't have a right to riot. As for the areas that did suffer severe damage, I did my part to help them out with cash to rebuild. Basically, it feels to me like you are playing a straw man game throwing BLM into the mix. Every action has to be looked at for what occurs in that action, not the ideology behind it, and not compared to something from more than a year ago.

Reality is nefarious elements like to use peaceful protests as an excuse to create discord and violence. Those nefarious elements usually having nothing at all to do with the organizers of the protests nor the goals of the protests. It is the need of those elements to attach themselves to what would otherwise be peaceful that creates a stain on humanity, not those who wish to raise their voices in protest and be heard.


I supported BLM and donated money, even prior to George Floyd's death. I was more active for BLM than most of the people on this site. I appreciate the information but I'll say for the last time that I didn't need a history lesson.


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07 Feb 2022, 8:34 pm

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Seems gofundme has now labeled it as an occupation and pulled the remaining funds. See them about a refund if you donated. I guess Trudeau got tired of being out of the media spotlight.


It seems their two big campaigns on GiveSendGo are both 404'd at the moment.


Tha main one doesn't seem to have any issues:
https://www.givesendgo.com/FreedomConvoy2022


That's one of the two I was referring to. I wonder if other Canadians are able to reach it or not.


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07 Feb 2022, 8:38 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:
txfz1 wrote:
Seems gofundme has now labeled it as an occupation and pulled the remaining funds. See them about a refund if you donated. I guess Trudeau got tired of being out of the media spotlight.


It seems their two big campaigns on GiveSendGo are both 404'd at the moment.


Tha main one doesn't seem to have any issues:
https://www.givesendgo.com/FreedomConvoy2022


That's one of the two I was referring to. I wonder if other Canadians are able to reach it or not.


There shouldn't be any reason they can't (excluding ISP related issues) - a DDOS (or other attack) would generally affect all people trying to access a site, not just those from a single country.



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07 Feb 2022, 8:59 pm

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07 Feb 2022, 9:03 pm

I'm not saying I support them, but the site works for me.


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07 Feb 2022, 9:06 pm

Sure enough, that loads up now.


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07 Feb 2022, 9:07 pm

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It was stated by BLM supporters and other left-wing activists over and over and over that violence and destruction was not acceptable. Full cities were never burned down, although we do know that some protests did get out of hand and turn into riots, and more than one neighborhood was devastated. Was BLM to blame or were other factions that attach to civil unrest for their own reasons? Quite often it was the later; probably most often, based on the research I've done, but attribution will always be cloudy. Most BLM protests occurred without incident or damage, and I can say that with confidence because the images of people I know at those protests often populated my social media feeds. The news was providing a distorted picture because, well, peaceful actions aren't news, and I hold back judging the truck protest for the same reason. As for anyone that went too far and rioted in connection with the BLM movement, it's simple: arrest them. We have a right to protest, we don't have a right to riot. As for the areas that did suffer severe damage, I did my part to help them out with cash to rebuild. Basically, it feels to me like you are playing a straw man game throwing BLM into the mix. Every action has to be looked at for what occurs in that action, not the ideology behind it, and not compared to something from more than a year ago.

Reality is nefarious elements like to use peaceful protests as an excuse to create discord and violence. Those nefarious elements usually having nothing at all to do with the organizers of the protests nor the goals of the protests. It is the need of those elements to attach themselves to what would otherwise be peaceful that creates a stain on humanity, not those who wish to raise their voices in protest and be heard.


I supported BLM and donated money, even prior to George Floyd's death. I was more active for BLM than most of the people on this site. I appreciate the information but I'll say for the last time that I didn't need a history lesson.


I was answering Psycho64's question for his benefit, and anyone sharing his thoughts. The question may have been most specifically addressed to you, but I assumed his mind was asking everyone who questioned some of the trucker actions and/or who supported BLM. I did not mean to make you feel like I was talking to you.


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07 Feb 2022, 9:16 pm

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Sure enough, that loads up now.

It's strange that you were getting a 404 error - These errors occur normally if you can access the site but there is a typo\mistake in the page you have requested from the site, however the URL in your image seems to be correct so I don't know what caused that to happen to you.



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07 Feb 2022, 9:25 pm

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I don’t believe anybody should be allowed to block roads—no matter their political persuasion.


Disagree here. I think it's perfectly acceptable for Indigenous peoples to blockade roads - especially since there's a legitimate dispute over ownership of said land that road is on.


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