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04 Feb 2019, 5:38 am

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There's no such thing as a Face Crime except in depictions of a dystopian society.

I was being literal. Perhaps, as an autistic person, you are not good enough with facial expressions and non-verbal communication to be able to perceive what his smug smile communicates.

Long story short: Kid's a dickbag.

What he did is no where close to the absurd level of response it's received. From it I can take it for granted that most anything I hear about nazis everywhere, russians everywhere, russiagate and the end of the world etc is massive over exaggeration.

educate yourself Ezra...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xROoqRrHpBs

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04 Feb 2019, 6:22 am

it is a pity that mainly foreigners still seem to be able to see this nation's moral rot these days. we amuuuricans have become blindered by our own non-justified conceit, our own nationalistic hubris.

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04 Feb 2019, 7:48 am

cyberdad wrote:

EzraS wrote:

goldfish21 wrote:

EzraS wrote:

There's no such thing as a Face Crime except in depictions of a dystopian society.

educate yourself Ezra...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xROoqRrHpBs

Lots of hyperbolic comentary isn't how I choose to educate myself on the matter, which I've already thoroughly anyalized. What's even more ridiculous to me than all the mass hyperbole and sensationalism, are those continuing to justify and perpetrate it.

And gloss over the huge amount of extremely violent sentiments directed at the kid.

To me that's the key issue.

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04 Feb 2019, 8:35 am

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for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.

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04 Feb 2019, 9:58 am

cyberdad wrote:

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Being yelled at by black racists? Being approached? Comitting FaceCrime?

Why don't you educate yourself
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 5000d02f76

It's called "equal opportunity bigotry"...

I don't know why you think reading someone else's opinion on the matter would constitute an education. Especially since the reasoning seems to be something like "the MAGAkids didn't respect their elder, and america has a problem with police being incompetent a**holes with guns, therefore the MAGAkids are basically Klansmen. QED!".

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04 Feb 2019, 10:27 am

Well, seeing as how a guy wearing a MAGA hat recently showed up at "Dragqueen Story Time (a monthly event where a dragqueen reads stories to children in a library)" with a gun, I'm going to start avoiding MAGA hat-wearers from now on.

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04 Feb 2019, 10:38 am

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Brown shirts and everyone does the same thing? Sounds nice. We never liked the Jews anyway...

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04 Feb 2019, 11:12 am

Here on an autism board like in society in general we have a bunch of armchair mind readers. I get it, that face is triggering, I have been bullied by plenty of people with a face like that, many commentators have had the same experience. That is our issue issue not neccessarily Sandmann’s.

I also have had a face like that when I feel confused or threatened and in shutdown mode. The group had every right to feel threatened people had been shouting vile things at them for over an hour when Phillips APPROACHED THEM. In a perfect world they would differentiate between the person approching them, the person next to Phillip’s yelling at them to go back to Europe and Phillip’s. IRL when threatened and when in a new situation the human mind has difficulity making these logical distinctions. The situation was probably new to them. The article posted noted that if you live in New York you know to give wide birth to the Black Isrealites. As a New Yorker and I know to avoid them and anybody ranting and raving in the street for that matter. The teens are from Covington,Ky not New York.

Since everybody else is armchair mind reading I am going do the same. I think Phillip’s knew exactly what he was doing. He is a 64 year old veteran activist. Since at least the 1960s a major tactic of left wing activism is to provoke an overreaction in order to “prove” the other side are a bunch of Nazi’s. The more the overreation is publicized the better for the cause. If people get hurt or killed, reputations ruined for life it is collateral damage, the ends justify the means. Phillips did not approach the Black Israelites did he? The kids wearing Trump gear was presented a golden opportunity that Phillip’s took advantage of.

This tactic keeps on being used because it keeps on working. When back in 1970 the national guard overreacted by massacring students throwing body waste at them and calling them pigs the war was “brought home” and Kent State was important in getting the America government to eventually give up in Vietnam. This time all that was needed was a photo op to get so many supposed adults to think a bunch of kids are next alt right terrorists.

Whatabout the alt right and the old right?.
They have seen this tactic works and copied it.

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04 Feb 2019, 11:25 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:

Since everybody else is armchair mind reading I am going do the same. I think Phillip’s knew exactly what he was doing. He is a 64 year old veteran activist. Since at least the 1960s a major tactic of left wing activism is to provoke an overreaction in order to “prove” the other side are a bunch of Nazi’s. The more the overreation is publicized the better for the cause. If people get hurt or killed, reputations ruined for life it is collateral damage, the ends justify the means. Phillips did not approach the Black Israelites did he? The kids wearing Trump gear was presented a golden opportunity that Phillip’s took advantage of.
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Seems viable , maybe Sandmann also realised this hence the neutral reaction , the fact he also told one of his mates not be a dick could point out he didn't approve of their behaviour but could be due to his awareness of videos being made and the need to not be confrontational and propel the negative stereotype of MAGA hat wearing goons.

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04 Feb 2019, 11:34 am

Sandmann is not the issue.

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04 Feb 2019, 12:04 pm

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I think some people are just out to vilify. There's an agenda taking place. If people think saying the kid was being a this that and the other helps their agenda, then that's what they're going to go with and stick to. Reasoning is therefore pointless.

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04 Feb 2019, 12:12 pm

The sinister agenda of ending prejudice...

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04 Feb 2019, 12:14 pm

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Reasoning is therefore pointless.

but I like banging my head against a brick wall.

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04 Feb 2019, 2:28 pm

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Did he threaten them?
Or is it another case of his existence is horrible ?
People on both sides carry guns, carrying guns or wearing a hate isn’t threatening alone

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04 Feb 2019, 2:53 pm

sly279 wrote:

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Did he threaten them?
Or is it another case of his existence is horrible ?
People on both sides carry guns, carrying guns or wearing a hate isn’t threatening alone

The fact that he choose to show-up at a children's event with a gun is bad enough, but, considering he was previously banned from the library for filming children without their parent's consent doesn't instill much confidence in me that his intentions were benign.

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04 Feb 2019, 2:55 pm

SaveFerris wrote:

EzraS wrote:

Reasoning is therefore pointless.

but I like banging my head against a brick wall.

Something tells me if it had been a liberal teenager getting in a Trump supporter's face, we'd be hearing all about the intolerant, violent tendencies of the Left.

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