Monuments to racism toppling around the world.

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we need to change the name of "wrongplanet" because both "wrong" and "planet" are words which come from the language of evil imperialist perfidious albion which is responsible for incredible amounts of misery, death and the destruction of native ways and tongues worldwide.

זה בדיוק למה אני כבר לא רוצה לדעת לדבר אנגלית.

I have noticed the lack of posts speculating or claiming Jefferson was an Aspie lately, Gee, I wonder why?(sarcasm)
Thomas Jefferson and Asperger's
Which of the founding fathers had Aspergers or HFA?
MOST FAMOUS aspergians?
Book - Diagnosing Jefferson: Evidence of a Condition that Guided his Beliefs, Behavior, and Personal Associations

Its because the claim that he had aspergers is BS. Not because of the current wave of statue vandalism.

what shall it be called henceforth?

When the emphasis was about Jefferson being a founding father he was a positive association, now it is a negative so he has been canceled as an “autistic” .

It shall be called "Cyberhaven"

It may or not be BS. This was the same back then when all those threads were created but before the emphasis was put on Jefferson’s slave ownership.

A lot of this retro and celebrity diagnosing is about self esteem, trying to improve bad self esteem by associating oneself with people of accomplishment. A part of autistic advocacy is saying to the NT world we are not all ret*ds, that so and so is autistic and has accomplished stuff. Unfortunately that has expanded into armchair diagnosing of celebrities and historical figures. When the emphasis was about Jefferson being a founding father he was a positive association, now it is a negative so he has been canceled as an “autistic” .

and Cyberdad shall be its leader, it's dad.

It's still in English. So the same joke reason for opposing it still applies. So its not a good solution to the joke problem it addresses.

and Cyberdad shall be its leader, it's dad.

My earlier point to Kiprobalhato is that nobody speaks old English. In any case if they ban English that would spell the death knell for this forum unless we all used google translate from a nuetral language like esparanto

You dont hafta torture us by stating the obvious about celebrity diagnosing. It goes without saying that I not only know all of that crap, but that is obviously very thing that I am responding to. You THINK that diagnosing Jefferson has gone out of style because he has gone out of style (so to speak)but its really because the evidence is weak. Also a couple of years ago folks on WP were diagnosing figures like Henrich Himmler (head of the SS), and even Hitler as being aspie. So not all of that celebrity diagnosing is positive. Not that there is anything with positive posthumous diagnosing of the famous per se.

At least two people were arrested after throwing blue paint on the Black Lives Matter mural in midtown — the second time in a week the Fifth Avenue mural has been defaced.

The alleged vandals threw the paint in what appeared to be a coordinated effort involving about 10 people around 4 p.m. Friday. There were plans going around on social media with a group of people discussing doing the stunt.

One of those arrested, a woman wearing a rainbow flag as a cape and a shirt that read "All Lives Matter," was put into custody, smirking when asked why she did it. It was not clear what charges those arrested may face.

Opposing groups on the Black Lives Matter movement chanted and shouted in front of the doors to Trump Tower as she was being arrested. The confrontation got heated quickly, with one woman kicking a can of the blue paint in anger.

Police blocked off some traffic on Fifth Avenue between 56th and 57th Streets just minutes after the incident occurred.

On Monday, the mural -- a project President Donald Trump blasted as a "symbol of hate" -- was defaced with a large splash of red paint.

One of those arrested, a woman wearing a rainbow flag as a cape and a shirt that read "All Lives Matter," was put into custody, smirking when asked why she did it. It was not clear what charges those arrested may face.

The Pentagon on Friday unveiled a new policy that effectively bans the display of the Confederate flag — without actually naming it.

The policy, a copy of which was obtained by POLITICO ahead of the official rollout, reflects an effort to find a compromise on the divisive issue, as Defense Secretary Mark Esper strives to satisfy military leaders without irking President Donald Trump, who has criticized NASCAR for banning the flag.

A draft version of the policy reportedly explicitly banned the Confederate flag on Defense Department property. Yet the official language simply lists the types of flags that are allowed to be displayed, including the American flag; the flags of the U.S. states, territories and the District of Columbia; military flags and those of allies.

"The flags we fly must accord with the military imperatives of good order and discipline, treating all our people with dignity and respect, and rejecting divisive symbols," Esper wrote in the memo. The guidance applies to the public displays of flags by service members or DoD civilians "in all DoD work places, common access areas, and public areas."

Exceptions to the ban include museum exhibits, license plates, grave sites, and works of art "where the nature of the display or depiction cannot reasonably be viewed as endorsement of the flag by the Department of Defense."

Trump has made no secret of his opposition to banning the Confederate flag outright, criticizing NASCAR for doing so and saying he views flying the flag as “freedom of speech." Trump has also proclaimed his opposition to other efforts by the military to address racism and diversity, including removing the names of Confederates from 10 Army bases.

The decision not to name a specific, prohibited flag was "to ensure the department-wide policy would be apolitical and withstand potential free speech political challenges," a defense official familiar with the decision told reporters ahead of the policy rollout.

In recent weeks, Esper has faced mounting pressure from the military service leaders to ban the Confederate flag outright, POLITICO first reported, since protests swept the nation in the wake George Floyd's death.

The Marine Corps this spring took the lead and banned the flag on all Corps property, followed by U.S. Forces Korea. The Navy later announced it was preparing its own ban. Esper supports the Marine Corps' decision in particular to ban the flag, the official said. But the defense secretary had told the services to pause these efforts until he could issue a department-wide policy.

The new policy does not change those initiatives, or limit the services from enacting their own stricter regulations. The services "are still free to act on other flags," the official said.

The White House is aware of the policy change, the official said.

"What has always united us remains clear — our common mission, our oath to support and defend the Constitution, and our American flag," Esper wrote in the memo. "With this change in policy, we will further improve the morale, cohesion, and readiness of the force in defense of our great nation."