Trudeau flees as first 1,000 Trucks Arrive in Ottawa
Kyle took a rifle to a family friend's car yard to try and stop rioters burning the next 160 cars. Which he did. Killing 2 people snd wounding one who were trying to kill him. A sex offender illegaly carrying a pistol (not allowed to be armed), i dont remember the details of the other two (except one beat women) but true self defence. In defence of property. Destroyed by these animals 2 nights before. Honestly, what's to complain about?
I'd like to believe that MaxE was trolling with that post, but I think he actually believes the nonsense he posted.
Given the topic has been discussed on multiple threads on this site[1] and the trial was live-streamed (I found it quite interesting to watch the whole trial, myself - There were some interesting witnesses and the way the lawyers operated was quite educational as well), there's not really any excuse to not understand how the verdict was reached, and why it was the correct one in the circumstances.
Unfortunately, there's a number of people who didn't bother to do any research or watch the trial, instead depending on their preferred media source to tell them what to think on the subject.
I will, however, agree with the remark about the politicised legal system - the prosecutors demonstrated their politicisation quite well. Fortunately the judge and defence lawyers did not indulge in such acts.
[1]:
https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=389886
https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=401169
https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=401779
Kyle took a rifle to a family friend's car yard to try and stop rioters burning the next 160 cars. Which he did. Killing 2 people snd wounding one who were trying to kill him. A sex offender illegaly carrying a pistol (not allowed to be armed), i dont remember the details of the other two (except one beat women) but true self defence. In defence of property. Destroyed by these animals 2 nights before. Honestly, what's to complain about?
I'd like to believe that MaxE was trolling with that post, but I think he actually believes the nonsense he posted.
Given the topic has been discussed on multiple threads on this site[1] and the trial was live-streamed (I found it quite interesting to watch the whole trial, myself - There were some interesting witnesses and the way the lawyers operated was quite educational as well), there's not really any excuse to not understand how the verdict was reached, and why it was the correct one in the circumstances.
Unfortunately, there's a number of people who didn't bother to do any research or watch the trial, instead depending on their preferred media source to tell them what to think on the subject.
I will, however, agree with the remark about the politicised legal system - the prosecutors demonstrated their politicisation quite well. Fortunately the judge and defence lawyers did not indulge in such acts.
[1]:
https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=389886
https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=401169
https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=401779
An excellent analysis.
I've come to something of an epiphany here. For some reason Australians are desperate for Americans to view BLM as a bogeyman. Why Australia of all places?
As a survivor of SA I'm staunchly against any type of legislative mandate which limits our bodily ownership, our bodily autonomy, or our freedom of choice about medical procedures. Such laws set a dangerous legal precedent for all survivors, for all victims of violence, for bioethics, and for pro-choice reproductive law.
Unfortunately I witnessed group dynamics in Chaz where women were surrounded, taunted, intimidated and bullied by crowds of angry BLM members. Their bodily autonomy was at risk. Further I'm aware of aggravated sexual assault against men and women in the protests, by both left and right wing participants. When I called it out I was heckled as being a right wing conspirator and some sort of Nazi. That's the sympathy and support I was shown by privileged people who don't worry about sexual assault, bodily safety, reproductive rights, or the implications of government interference in our liberty.
I'm fully vaxxed and I do isolate, probably to excess. I follow all mandates where I live, not just because I'm autistic and a follower of rules, but because I care about my health and that of others. I make those choices voluntarily and with free agency as an individual. Despite being pro-vax, pro-masks, and pro-distancing, I oppose medical mandates because of the ethical and legal implications described above. Unfortunately, some people have taken the opportunity to infer once again that I must be alt-right.
This couldn't be further from the truth. I speak on behalf of SA survivors and as a staunch believer in personal choice. The truckers seem to have dropped the ball but I hope that this issue will continue to be forefront in world politics, and that no human will surrender control of their body or their autonomy to the law.
I am really sorry for the things you've experienced. That knowledge should will naturally edit your opinions, and it should.
All political sides need a little more grace towards each other; neither is correct all the time. It's really a shame there is so much noise around us all the time now, making it difficult to hear the lessons we should be learning from each other.
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Meet the Extremists and Social Media Influencers at the Centre of the Far-Right Siege of Ottawa
Who is really behind the far-right occupation of Canada’s national capital?
The siege began as a so-called “Freedom Convoy” of truckers disgruntled about public health rules for those crossing the US-Canada border.
Or so Canadians were told.
The fact remains 90% of Canadian truckers are vaccinated and the rules being protested only impact a small minority of truckers that do regular cross-border routes. Canada’s trucking industry had been vocal in disavowing the convoy well before they arrived in Ottawa as the convoy’s extremism became clear.
While some, like Conservative leadership candidate Pierre Poilievre, have sought to downplay extremist elements within the protests as just a few bad apples, many of the group’s organizers and participants are drawn from the same old cast of characters.
In many cases, participants are the same people who’ve opposed public health measures throughout the pandemic and, more recently, stalked Justin Trudeau at campaign stops and protested at hospitals during last year’s federal election.
Here’s a run-down of a few of these extremists and social media influencers helping to amplify their messages who have been spotted in Ottawa:
The Extremists
The “Freedom Convoy” was originally organized by a group called Canada Unity, which was founded by a man named James Bauder who is linked to far-right “Yellow Vest” groups and has harassed picketing oil refinery workers.
Bauder is an author of the convoy’s “memorandum of understanding” that calls for overthrowing Canada’s democratic government and replacing it with an unelected junta consisting of convoy leaders, the Senate and the Governor General.
Other top organizers include Benjamin Dichter, a failed Conservative and People’s Party candidate, who recently stated he welcomes the Confederate flag in Ottawa, as well as Pat King, a far-right figure who previously broadcasted rants about the “depopulation of the Caucasian race” and suggested the only way the convoy to Ottawa would be “solved is with bullets.”
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Analysis
Meet the Extremists and Social Media Influencers at the Centre of the Far-Right Siege of Ottawa
Who is really behind the far-right occupation of Canada’s national capital?
by PressProgress
February 8, 2022
Ottawa is under siege, but who is really behind the occupation?
The siege began as a so-called “Freedom Convoy” of truckers disgruntled about public health rules for those crossing the US-Canada border.
Or so Canadians were told.
The fact remains 90% of Canadian truckers are vaccinated and the rules being protested only impact a small minority of truckers that do regular cross-border routes. Canada’s trucking industry had been vocal in disavowing the convoy well before they arrived in Ottawa as the convoy’s extremism became clear.
While some, like Conservative leadership candidate Pierre Poilievre, have sought to downplay extremist elements within the protests as just a few bad apples, many of the group’s organizers and participants are drawn from the same old cast of characters.
In many cases, participants are the same people who’ve opposed public health measures throughout the pandemic and, more recently, stalked Justin Trudeau at campaign stops and protested at hospitals during last year’s federal election.
Here’s a run-down of a few of these extremists and social media influencers helping to amplify their messages who have been spotted in Ottawa:
The Extremists
The “Freedom Convoy” was originally organized by a group called Canada Unity, which was founded by a man named James Bauder who is linked to far-right “Yellow Vest” groups and has harassed picketing oil refinery workers.
Bauder is an author of the convoy’s “memorandum of understanding” that calls for overthrowing Canada’s democratic government and replacing it with an unelected junta consisting of convoy leaders, the Senate and the Governor General.
Other top organizers include Benjamin Dichter, a failed Conservative and People’s Party candidate, who recently stated he welcomes the Confederate flag in Ottawa, as well as Pat King, a far-right figure who previously broadcasted rants about the “depopulation of the Caucasian race” and suggested the only way the convoy to Ottawa would be “solved is with bullets.”
One of the most visible political figures during the siege has been Randy Hillier, an independent Ontario MPP who was kicked out of Doug Ford’s party a few years ago — Hillier is getting ready to run under his newly created Ontario First Party in this spring’s election.
Over the weekend, while standing on the steps of Parliament Hill, Hillier delivered a dangerous speech that likened the convoy’s struggle to that of Canadian soldiers fighting at Vimy Ridge before telling his supporters: “This is the hill we die on.”
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Analysis
Meet the Extremists and Social Media Influencers at the Centre of the Far-Right Siege of Ottawa
Who is really behind the far-right occupation of Canada’s national capital?
by PressProgress
February 8, 2022
Ottawa is under siege, but who is really behind the occupation?
The siege began as a so-called “Freedom Convoy” of truckers disgruntled about public health rules for those crossing the US-Canada border.
Or so Canadians were told.
The fact remains 90% of Canadian truckers are vaccinated and the rules being protested only impact a small minority of truckers that do regular cross-border routes. Canada’s trucking industry had been vocal in disavowing the convoy well before they arrived in Ottawa as the convoy’s extremism became clear.
While some, like Conservative leadership candidate Pierre Poilievre, have sought to downplay extremist elements within the protests as just a few bad apples, many of the group’s organizers and participants are drawn from the same old cast of characters.
In many cases, participants are the same people who’ve opposed public health measures throughout the pandemic and, more recently, stalked Justin Trudeau at campaign stops and protested at hospitals during last year’s federal election.
Here’s a run-down of a few of these extremists and social media influencers helping to amplify their messages who have been spotted in Ottawa:
The Extremists
The “Freedom Convoy” was originally organized by a group called Canada Unity, which was founded by a man named James Bauder who is linked to far-right “Yellow Vest” groups and has harassed picketing oil refinery workers.
Bauder is an author of the convoy’s “memorandum of understanding” that calls for overthrowing Canada’s democratic government and replacing it with an unelected junta consisting of convoy leaders, the Senate and the Governor General.
Other top organizers include Benjamin Dichter, a failed Conservative and People’s Party candidate, who recently stated he welcomes the Confederate flag in Ottawa, as well as Pat King, a far-right figure who previously broadcasted rants about the “depopulation of the Caucasian race” and suggested the only way the convoy to Ottawa would be “solved is with bullets.”
One of the most visible political figures during the siege has been Randy Hillier, an independent Ontario MPP who was kicked out of Doug Ford’s party a few years ago — Hillier is getting ready to run under his newly created Ontario First Party in this spring’s election.
Over the weekend, while standing on the steps of Parliament Hill, Hillier delivered a dangerous speech that likened the convoy’s struggle to that of Canadian soldiers fighting at Vimy Ridge before telling his supporters: “This is the hill we die on.”
Hillier appears to be leveraging connections from No More Lockdowns, a group he founded in response to COVID-19 public health restrictions — the group’s corporate documents list his daughter Chelsea Hillier, a failed People’s Party candidate, as the for-profit company’s sole proprietor.
In fact, Randy Hillier has played a key role communicating and coordinating with a network of drivers of large industrial and agricultural vehicles that have clogged-up Ottawa streets, often using encrypted social media apps like Telegram.
Other top organizers include individuals with police and military backgrounds, which may help explain their unusual strategies and tactics, including the establishment of elaborate bases and supply lines.
One such organizer, Tom Quiggin, is a former RCMP and intelligence officer and taught at the Royal Military College. Quiggin has spoken at events hosted by the right-wing Manning Centre, where he claimed a Québec City mosque targeted by a far-right terrorist was, itself, helping terrorists.
Others involved with the occupation have long ties to protests against various public health measures during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Henry Hildebrandt, a doomsday preacher from Aylmer, Ontario, is a close ally of Hillier and his No More Lockdowns group. In an interview with CTV’s W5, the pastor of Aylmer’s Church of God stated he believes COVID-19 and the support he is receiving opposing to public health measures are the fulfillment of an apocalyptic prophesy and a sign that “the end of coming.”
Hildebrandt was filmed pleading with a police tactical unit that raided one of the protesters’ illegal logistics camps set-up at Ottawa’s baseball stadium.
The Line was one of the first anti-public health groups that organized protests in opposition to COVID-19 measures in April 2020. That group’s leader, Lamont Daigle, was filming videos inside his car in Ottawa. Vladislav Sobolev, whose anti-mask group Hugs Over Masks received media attention early in the pandemic, was also spotted on Parliament Hill.
Nadine Ness, the leader of a group with links to far-right conspiracies called Unified Grassroots, is also in Ottawa. Ness’ group opposes vaccination policies and had a long phone call with Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe in December.
Another figure spotted in Ottawa this weekend was an anti-vaccine activist named Chris Sky, who recently had a warrant issued for his arrest in connection to an incident where led an angry unmasked mob into a West Edmonton Mall toy store (Sky reportedly turned himself into police a few days later).
In Ottawa, Sky posted a TikTok video showing himself amid a hostile mob that was charging at police, forcing them to fall back from a position near Parliament Hill.
Sky is not the only siege participant with a spotty criminal record.
The crowdsourcing website called Convoy Traitors caught former Conservative leader Andrew Scheer smiling for a photo with convoy member Christopher Scott in Ottawa.
Scott was handed a criminal conviction after his business violated public health rules and sentenced to 18 months probation in December.
Elements even further to the extreme far-right are also embedded in the convoy.
Several members of the so-called Plaid Army, a neo-fascist group that wishes to stage a violent revolution to establish a new “Diagolon” country joining the Canadian West with parts of the United States, have been spotted at the centre of the chaos in downtown Ottawa.
Four members of a group called Canada First were filmed at Ottawa City Hall this weekend harassing Ottawa residents.
Tyler Russel, the group’s leader, was spotted with a man who was criminally charged with assaulting Prime Minister Justin Trudeau with a weapon at a campaign stop during the last federal election. On Sunday, Russell was spotted in a red “Canada First” hat yelling at police during a raid on the protesters’ illegal command base established at Ottawa’s city-owned baseball stadium.
A man named Chris Elston, an anti-trans activist who has been travelling the country staging protests outside of elementary schools, was spotted on the Rideau Canal. Sandra Solomon, a noted anti-Muslim activist, delivered a speech on Parliament Hill. Anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist Kelly Anne Farkas was reportedly heard encouraging protesters to use bathrooms at the Holiday Inn Downtown Ottawa.
The siege has also featured an appearances by Romana Didulo, the self-declared “Queen of Canada” who was arrested in December after threatening health workers— PressProgress spotted the Queen of Canada’s RV camping out overnight in front of Finance Canada’s headquarters in Ottawa.
The protests have also featured vehicles displaying signs promoting the sovereignist Maverick Party and Wexit, a far-right secessionist movement that seeks to break away Alberta, Saskatchewan and other western provinces from the rest of Canada.
Top convoy organizer Tamara Lich is a long-time Wexit activist and a founding member of the Maverick Party’s governing council.
And then there’s QAnon.
QAnon is a delusional online community that believes Donald Trump is waging a heroic battle against a secret cabal of Satanic pedophiles. They had a highly visible presence at the US Capitol during the January 6 insurrection.
A number of trucks associated with the Ottawa siege display slogans associated with QAnon.
Other signs make reference to “Nuremberg 2.0,” an idea popular in QAnon circles that those responsible for public health restrictions will be tried and hung for treason in secret trials.
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Analysis
Meet the Extremists and Social Media Influencers at the Centre of the Far-Right Siege of Ottawa
Who is really behind the far-right occupation of Canada’s national capital?
by PressProgress
February 8, 2022
Ottawa is under siege, but who is really behind the occupation?
The siege began as a so-called “Freedom Convoy” of truckers disgruntled about public health rules for those crossing the US-Canada border.
Or so Canadians were told.
The fact remains 90% of Canadian truckers are vaccinated and the rules being protested only impact a small minority of truckers that do regular cross-border routes. Canada’s trucking industry had been vocal in disavowing the convoy well before they arrived in Ottawa as the convoy’s extremism became clear.
While some, like Conservative leadership candidate Pierre Poilievre, have sought to downplay extremist elements within the protests as just a few bad apples, many of the group’s organizers and participants are drawn from the same old cast of characters.
In many cases, participants are the same people who’ve opposed public health measures throughout the pandemic and, more recently, stalked Justin Trudeau at campaign stops and protested at hospitals during last year’s federal election.
Here’s a run-down of a few of these extremists and social media influencers helping to amplify their messages who have been spotted in Ottawa:
The Extremists
The “Freedom Convoy” was originally organized by a group called Canada Unity, which was founded by a man named James Bauder who is linked to far-right “Yellow Vest” groups and has harassed picketing oil refinery workers.
Bauder is an author of the convoy’s “memorandum of understanding” that calls for overthrowing Canada’s democratic government and replacing it with an unelected junta consisting of convoy leaders, the Senate and the Governor General.
Other top organizers include Benjamin Dichter, a failed Conservative and People’s Party candidate, who recently stated he welcomes the Confederate flag in Ottawa, as well as Pat King, a far-right figure who previously broadcasted rants about the “depopulation of the Caucasian race” and suggested the only way the convoy to Ottawa would be “solved is with bullets.”
One of the most visible political figures during the siege has been Randy Hillier, an independent Ontario MPP who was kicked out of Doug Ford’s party a few years ago — Hillier is getting ready to run under his newly created Ontario First Party in this spring’s election.
Over the weekend, while standing on the steps of Parliament Hill, Hillier delivered a dangerous speech that likened the convoy’s struggle to that of Canadian soldiers fighting at Vimy Ridge before telling his supporters: “This is the hill we die on.”
Hillier appears to be leveraging connections from No More Lockdowns, a group he founded in response to COVID-19 public health restrictions — the group’s corporate documents list his daughter Chelsea Hillier, a failed People’s Party candidate, as the for-profit company’s sole proprietor.
In fact, Randy Hillier has played a key role communicating and coordinating with a network of drivers of large industrial and agricultural vehicles that have clogged-up Ottawa streets, often using encrypted social media apps like Telegram.
Randy Hillier (Telegram)
Other top organizers include individuals with police and military backgrounds, which may help explain their unusual strategies and tactics, including the establishment of elaborate bases and supply lines.
One such organizer, Tom Quiggin, is a former RCMP and intelligence officer and taught at the Royal Military College. Quiggin has spoken at events hosted by the right-wing Manning Centre, where he claimed a Québec City mosque targeted by a far-right terrorist was, itself, helping terrorists.
Others involved with the occupation have long ties to protests against various public health measures during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Henry Hildebrandt, a doomsday preacher from Aylmer, Ontario, is a close ally of Hillier and his No More Lockdowns group. In an interview with CTV’s W5, the pastor of Aylmer’s Church of God stated he believes COVID-19 and the support he is receiving opposing to public health measures are the fulfillment of an apocalyptic prophesy and a sign that “the end of coming.”
Hildebrandt was filmed pleading with a police tactical unit that raided one of the protesters’ illegal logistics camps set-up at Ottawa’s baseball stadium.
The Line was one of the first anti-public health groups that organized protests in opposition to COVID-19 measures in April 2020. That group’s leader, Lamont Daigle, was filming videos inside his car in Ottawa. Vladislav Sobolev, whose anti-mask group Hugs Over Masks received media attention early in the pandemic, was also spotted on Parliament Hill.
Nadine Ness, the leader of a group with links to far-right conspiracies called Unified Grassroots, is also in Ottawa. Ness’ group opposes vaccination policies and had a long phone call with Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe in December.
Another figure spotted in Ottawa this weekend was an anti-vaccine activist named Chris Sky, who recently had a warrant issued for his arrest in connection to an incident where led an angry unmasked mob into a West Edmonton Mall toy store (Sky reportedly turned himself into police a few days later).
In Ottawa, Sky posted a TikTok video showing himself amid a hostile mob that was charging at police, forcing them to fall back from a position near Parliament Hill.
Sky is not the only siege participant with a spotty criminal record.
The crowdsourcing website called Convoy Traitors caught former Conservative leader Andrew Scheer smiling for a photo with convoy member Christopher Scott in Ottawa.
Scott was handed a criminal conviction after his business violated public health rules and sentenced to 18 months probation in December.
ConvoyTraitors.ca
Elements even further to the extreme far-right are also embedded in the convoy.
Several members of the so-called Plaid Army, a neo-fascist group that wishes to stage a violent revolution to establish a new “Diagolon” country joining the Canadian West with parts of the United States, have been spotted at the centre of the chaos in downtown Ottawa.
Four members of a group called Canada First were filmed at Ottawa City Hall this weekend harassing Ottawa residents.
Tyler Russel, the group’s leader, was spotted with a man who was criminally charged with assaulting Prime Minister Justin Trudeau with a weapon at a campaign stop during the last federal election. On Sunday, Russell was spotted in a red “Canada First” hat yelling at police during a raid on the protesters’ illegal command base established at Ottawa’s city-owned baseball stadium.
A man named Chris Elston, an anti-trans activist who has been travelling the country staging protests outside of elementary schools, was spotted on the Rideau Canal. Sandra Solomon, a noted anti-Muslim activist, delivered a speech on Parliament Hill. Anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist Kelly Anne Farkas was reportedly heard encouraging protesters to use bathrooms at the Holiday Inn Downtown Ottawa.
The siege has also featured an appearances by Romana Didulo, the self-declared “Queen of Canada” who was arrested in December after threatening health workers— PressProgress spotted the Queen of Canada’s RV camping out overnight in front of Finance Canada’s headquarters in Ottawa.
Photo: L. LeBrun (PressProgress)
The protests have also featured vehicles displaying signs promoting the sovereignist Maverick Party and Wexit, a far-right secessionist movement that seeks to break away Alberta, Saskatchewan and other western provinces from the rest of Canada.
Top convoy organizer Tamara Lich is a long-time Wexit activist and a founding member of the Maverick Party’s governing council.
Photo: L. LeBrun (PressProgress)
And then there’s QAnon.
QAnon is a delusional online community that believes Donald Trump is waging a heroic battle against a secret cabal of Satanic pedophiles. They had a highly visible presence at the US Capitol during the January 6 insurrection.
A number of trucks associated with the Ottawa siege display slogans associated with QAnon.
Photo: L. LeBrun (PressProgress)
Other signs make reference to “Nuremberg 2.0,” an idea popular in QAnon circles that those responsible for public health restrictions will be tried and hung for treason in secret trials.
The Social Media Influencers
The siege has also occupied the attention of Canada’s right-wing media ecosystem.
All the usual characters are in Ottawa: Post Millennial, True North, Rebel Media — former Rebel Media personality Keean Bexte even hosted an online event with convoy organizer Benjamin Dichter and alt-right figure Lauren Southern.
The occupation has also brought out a number of social media influencers that have been a mainstay at anti-lockdown protests.
Former 700 Club host and People’s Party candidate Laura Lynn-Tyler Thompson has been livestreaming from the streets of occupied Ottawa, as has another livestreamer named Selena Paley, a People’s Party supporter who runs a page called Freedom Central.
Another character, Jim Kerr, has been a familiar face at anti-lockdown protests over the last two years, driving from town to town in a psychedelic school bus called the “Church of Bubbles.” He was spotted at protests at PB’s Peterburgers in Peterborough, Ontario as well as Hildebrandt’s Church of God in Aylmer, Ontario.
Kerr, who has been a prolific livestreamer, was also spotted at a rave on the steps of Parliament Hill.
Other social media influencers have gotten in on the action too. Austin Hill, runs an Instagram account called ShotsByHill, previously an amateur photography account that has since become radicalized.
Hill has been creating videos wandering around downtown Ottawa handing out $20 bills directly to truckers in support of the occupation, funds which he obtained by requesting donations via PayPal.
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Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
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Kanellakos says the tow companies are still doing other work for the City of Ottawa, including towing regularly sized vehicles
Source: https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/02/08/ottawa-truckers-blockade-protests-tow-trucks/
Roads and rows of trucks are there
And noisy honking in the air
And protesters are everywhere
I’ve looked at News that way
But now they only risk our rights
And demonstrations turn to fights
So many things they should have done
But flags got in our way
I’ve looked at Trucks from both sides now
In Canada, but still somehow
It’s human rights that I recall
I really don’t know hate at all
Snow and sleet and big rig wheels
The different points of view we feel
When bioethics seem unreal
I’ve looked at health that way
But now it’s just continued memes
With bigotry and plotted schemes
So if you’re scared don’t let it show
Don’t give yourself away
I’ve looked at Trucks from both sides now
From north to south
What laws allow
It’s human rights that I recall
I really don’t know hate at all
Tears and fears, not feeling heard
They say "Please listen to each word"
Public Health and border guards
I’ve seen vaccines that way
But now both sides are acting strange
They shake their heads, say times have changed
Well something’s lost but something’s gained
By learning more each day
I’ve looked at Trucks from both sides now
From east to west
But still somehow
It’s Charter rights that I recall
I really don’t divide at all
I've looked at This from both sides now
Bipartisan, but still somehow
It's all our freedoms I recall
I really don’t know spite
I really don't know spite at all
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Based on Both Sides Now - Joni Mitchell
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Because they wrote the legislation which has caused this national crisis?
To open roads and end this occupation without further duress for anyone on either side?
As an example of leadership and international cooperation?
To show respect for Canadians (truckers or not)?
To serve and represent Canadians by upholding the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, or else rewriting it?
Also let's not forget the truckers aren't morons. They were considered heroes and essential workers when we needed them most, when the borders were first closed to all traffic and vaccines hadn't been invented. They brought our toilet paper, our masks, our medicines, our hand sanitisers, our ventilators and our testing kits. Now, at least 90% of them are vaccinated and they social distance alone in their cabs, but you suddenly consider them morons with fewer human rights than yourself. You suggest they should be discriminated against and be denied the rights and freedoms of all other Canadian citizens.

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Interesting that you should mention the charter:
The Charter’s only living signatory sues Canada over travel mandates
On October 30, 2021, the federal government announced that anyone travelling by air, train, or ship, must be fully vaccinated. The travel vaccination mandate has prevented approximately 6 million unvaccinated Canadians (15% of Canada’s population) from travel within Canada and prevents them from flying out of Canada. Some of the Canadians involved in the lawsuit cannot travel to help sick loved ones, get to work, visit family and friends, take international vacations, and live ordinary lives.
The main applicant in the case is former Newfoundland Premier, The Honourable A. Brian Peckford. Mr. Peckford, pictured, is the only surviving drafter and signatory 40 years after the 1982 Constitution and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms was enacted.
“It is becoming more obvious that being vaccinated does not stop people from getting Covid and does not stop them from spreading it”, says the former Premier. “The government has not shown that the policy makes flying safer—it simply discriminates”, he notes. “When I heard Prime Minister Trudeau call the unvaccinated ‘racists,’ ‘misogynists, ‘anti-science’ and ‘extremist’ and his musing ‘do we tolerate these people?’ it became clear he is sowing divisions and advancing his vendetta against a specific group of Canadians—this is completely against the democratic and Canadian values I love about this country”, adds Mr. Peckford.
“The federal travel ban has segregated me from other Canadians. It’s discriminatory, violates my Charter rights and that’s why I am fighting the travel ban,” explains Mr. Peckford.
The Justice Centre’s legal challenge cites violations of Charter rights including mobility, life, liberty and security of the person, privacy, and discrimination. The lawsuit also challenges whether the Minister of Transportation has the jurisdiction to use aviation safety powers to enforce public health measures.
Source: https://www.jccf.ca/the-charters-only-living-signatory-sues-canada-over-travel-mandates/
I already posted the Charter at the beginning of this thread, but apparently we shouldn't use the word "freedom" anymore because it means people are Nazis who do whatever they want and hurt others.
According to some liberal minded members:
Freedom is now bad.
Democratic Rights are now wrong (and possibly racist).
The Charter doesn't count.
Here are two key sections, for reference:
Mobility Rights ^: All Canadian citizens have the right to enter, exit, move throughout, and remain in Canada, and to travel throughout Canada's provinces to secure their livelihood.
Equality Rights ^: All Canadian citizens are equal under the law, and cannot face discrimination or the loss of rights and freedoms because of their differences. They cannot be denied protection by our Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
The Charter was not rewritten to exclude unvaccinated truckers.
Nor has Canada invoked the Emergencies Act, which would allow short term changes to our rights.
Truckers and all Canadians have a right to be unvaccinated without losing their jobs, or facing mobility restrictions.
People might not like that, but then it's incumbent on them to change our Constitution.
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Because they wrote the legislation which has caused this national crisis?
To open roads and end this occupation without further duress for anyone on either side?
As an example of leadership and international cooperation?
To show respect for Canadians (truckers or not)?
To serve and represent Canadians by upholding the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, or else rewriting it?
Also let's not forget the truckers aren't morons. They were considered heroes and essential workers when we needed them most, when the borders were first closed to all traffic and vaccines hadn't been invented. They brought our toilet paper, our masks, our medicines, our hand sanitisers, our ventilators and our testing kits. Now, at least 90% of them are vaccinated and they social distance alone in their cabs, but you suddenly consider them morons with fewer human rights than yourself. You suggest they should be discriminated against and be denied the rights and freedoms of all other Canadian citizens.

Great post, and quote!