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01 Jun 2020, 6:50 pm

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7) police forces in other countries should also be purged of psychopaths (we have aboriginal deaths in custody here in Australia where nobody in the force is charged)


Replace aboriginal with First Nations and the same applies here.


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01 Jun 2020, 6:59 pm

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Hard to do any of that while the nations burning down.
Got to put the fire out first.
If the USA collapses then who will punish the cop?


El Presidente should grow some balls and address my points like any decent leader should, if does that I am sure the protestors will disperse faster than sending in troops which will be a repeat of the hurricane Katrina debacle where you had victims of the hurricane being targeted by the army.

He’s come out multiple times saying what happen is wrong and we need justice for Floyd but the riots need to stop. FBI is pretty busy with all the riots and threats to police and nation guard troops.

Trump can’t rule the guy guilty and have him beheaded, trump isn’t a king.

They protesters said it’s a revolution now. And they said in past they won’t stop until all four cops are out to death. With others demanding all precinct cops be killed and few others demanding the whol cities cops be killed.

We as a just society can’t just put four people to death without a fair trial, so seems itS going be months before this stops, sorry but that can’t happen. And for the revolution peopLe he’ll no we won’t let this nation collapse.


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01 Jun 2020, 7:02 pm

^ A king can't do that either, at least not in a modern democratic monarchy.


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01 Jun 2020, 7:12 pm

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^ A king can't do that either, at least not in a modern democratic monarchy.

Well some actual kings could, England’s monarchy as well as most modern monarchy are just show pieces and tourist attractions. They don’t have any power.
There’s a few nations that still have actual monarchy with total control.

My point was trump can’t just Order the four officers to be dragged out in front of the White House and shot to death for the pleasure of angry mobs in hopes to appease them like they want.

The trial of this cop or cops will take months to years. Should we just let the nation burn down in mean time? Should cops and national guy just pull out of cities and let the mobs have cintrol. Maybe just be like any non bad person has 24 hours to leave cause then we going the cities control over to the mobs welcome to purge cities. Anything goes.
I mean my god people want the purge movies to be made real.
f**k that deploy the military lets see how rioters react to actual tanks rolling down the street. Make that armor truck”tank” lol from last look like child’s play.
It’s time to restore order that or let the nation burn and I’d like to not burn, be killed or be forced to defend my self.
Had to flee Walmart yesterday. I’ve seen what happens to people who get caught up in the riots. People are calling this a insurrection/revolution/uprising. Police stations are abandoned and burning, the press is attacked. Business owners are assaulted.
It’s f*****g terrifying.
What do the rioters think will happen if there’s no more law and order? It’s won’t be pleasant for anyone.

How far off are we from becoming Syria or Ukraine. Cause our cities are sure looking like Syria right now.

My citie had rioting for first time Friday. No protest just straight to rioting. There was a protest Sunday but many were afraid to attend. I certain didn’t go and glad I didn’t. More violent and people ignored the curfews. Police after Friday weren’t taking any chances.
Bulshit went down on both sides. Protesters/rioters turn on each other. Would I been attacked for being white. Don’t want to be arrested either. Blm has a history of violence in my state. Wish we had mlk today to lead protests.


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01 Jun 2020, 7:30 pm

Peaceful protest in DC dispersed with tear gas, because Trump wanted a photo op at the church:



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01 Jun 2020, 7:45 pm

Trump was upset because there were reports of him hiding in a bunker (the poor baby!), so he had to appear tough by walking to the church and using his thugs to clear out peaceful protesters. Cue Anderson Cooper, exasperated, saying "Oh my God":



Trump wants to rule this country in the manner of an Eastern European/Central Asian dictator.


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01 Jun 2020, 7:49 pm

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Trump was upset because there were reports of him hiding in a bunker (the poor baby!), so he had to appear tough by walking to the church and using his thugs to clear out peaceful protesters. Cue Anderson Cooper, exasperated, saying "Oh my God":



Trump wants to rule this country in the manner of an Eastern European/Central Asian dictator.


He knew he looked cucked when reports of his cowering in the bunker came out. This is how he 'reasserts' his manhood, by sending thugs to assault peaceful protesters.


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01 Jun 2020, 8:03 pm

Some people are too young to remember, but cities have burned before in the US, within memory of our senior citizens.

In 1967, Detroit burned with riots and dozens of people were killed. Businesses were burned and looted. It took decades for Detroit to recover. And over what? Essentially the same thing: Black lives do not matter.

Lyndon Johnson, for all his failures with the Vietnam War, did much to improve civil rights. He pushed through the Civil Rights Act. And after the riots in Detroit and other cities, he ordered a study, the Kerner Commission, who produced a report in months (not years like today) that showed there were two Americas, one black and one white. And that racial injustice was a huge dividing problem.

Black lives did not matter in 1967 and they do not matter today. The laws have improved. But so much of the culture of racism and the institutionalized way that whites perceive race and the historical theft of economic opportunities is still present. And I do not except myself from this problem.

I am completely opposed to violence and looting and burning. But I understand why it happens and I wish I knew the answer! (Hah!) But further oppression by the army will only make things worse. The killings at Kent State did not stop the Vietnam War protests.

The last thing this country needs is to give the [bleep] in the white house an excuse to deploy the army on our own national people. This is what they do in Syria, in Iran, in North Korea. Not in the United States of America, which I was raised to love and respect.


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01 Jun 2020, 8:04 pm

If I spit in your face and throw a brick at you am peaceful? I’d bet you’d say I assaulted you and call the cops your so against


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01 Jun 2020, 8:06 pm

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Some people are too young to remember, but cities have burned before in the US, within memory of our senior citizens.

In 1967, Detroit burned with riots and dozens of people were killed. Businesses were burned and looted. It took decades for Detroit to recover. And over what? Essentially the same thing: Black lives do not matter.

Lyndon Johnson, for all his failures with the Vietnam War, did much to improve civil rights. He pushed through the Civil Rights Act. And after the riots in Detroit and other cities, he ordered a study, the Kerner Commission, who produced a report in months (not years like today) that showed there were two Americas, one black and one white. And that racial injustice was a huge dividing problem.

Black lives did not matter in 1967 and they do not matter today. The laws have improved. But so much of the culture of racism and the institutionalized way that whites perceive race and the historical theft of economic opportunities is still present. And I do not except myself from this problem.

I am completely opposed to violence and looting and burning. But I understand why it happens and I wish I knew the answer! (Hah!) But further oppression by the army will only make things worse. The killings at Kent State did not stop the Vietnam War protests.

The last thing this country needs is to give the [bleep] in the white house an excuse to deploy the army on our own national people. This is what they do in Syria, in Iran, in North Korea. Not in the United States of America, which I was raised to love and respect.


I hereby nominate blazingstar for President.


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01 Jun 2020, 8:08 pm

So good from Anderson Cooper, "law and order" is not "dominating" the streets:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/202 ... 60-vpx.cnn


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01 Jun 2020, 8:24 pm

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So, back on topic; the independent autopsy report into the killing of George Floyd returned results that are at odds with the county examiner's report, but much more consistent with what the video shows. The independent report describes the cause of death as asphyxia due to neck and back compression in contrast with the county's autopsy which returned no findings to support traumatic asphyxia or strangulation.


https://globalnews.ca/news/7012541/asph ... d-autopsy/
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/cu ... d-1008625/
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/86721913 ... y-asphyxia


This has been splashed all over the Australian news this morning.

While Trump is hiding in the whitehouse with his lights switched off drawing plans to attack Antifa he seems to have ignored

1) George Floyd is now officially been murdered by the police
2) Chauvin's 3rd degree should now be upgraded to first degree as there is evidence Chauvin knew Floyd and worked together and this may have been payback
3) the three Asian cops who stood around should be charged as accomplices (one of these idiots tried to tazer a member of the public)
4) The police medical coroner should be charged with fraud and being an accomplice to murder
5) the entire Minneapolis police force should be investigated by the FBI
6) the entire US police force should be bought into line with the rest of the civilised world with regard to human rights
7) police forces in other countries should also be purged of psychopaths (we have aboriginal deaths in custody here in Australia where nobody in the force is charged)


I agree with all 7 of your points.

Right now, the protests/riots are pure emotion without logic. There haven't been any concrete or unified demands and there hasn't been dialogue on how to fix the problems. Nothing will change until there can be rational discussions and rational change that ends up being positive for everyone. You are laying out actual points worth implementing and acting on. That's how positive change can happen.

Your points would hopefully bring a positive outcome in the end.

There also must be rule of law in civilized society. That rule of law should be fair and just and applied to all equally. That's hasn't happened yet in the history of the U.S. That absolutely does need to change.



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01 Jun 2020, 9:39 pm

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Trump can’t rule the guy guilty and have him beheaded, trump isn’t a king.


He seemed willing to turn the sporting world upside down when Colin Kaerpenick kneeled in a peaceful protest against the national anthem. It's funny how he invoked disrespect to veterans when most veteran groups couldn't care less as Kaerpernick was exercising his freedom which is enshrined in the constitution.

Now when real leadership is needed he chose to hide in his bunker and throw barbs at those protesting.



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01 Jun 2020, 9:58 pm

The thumbnail and title is a bit click-baity but Thinking Ape pretty much nails my perspective, not on the actual tragedy / event of what looks like a negligent execution or homicide by a given police officer while his fellow officers did nothing but about the gap in proportionality between that and the public reaction.



It's not that this is a new situation, there was an event in the early 90's that had a similar response, Thinking Ape posed the question - what would the country look like when anyone, of any ethnicity, was executed by either a rogue police officer or one whose woefully undertrained and never should have been out on the street? I'd agree, the results wouldn't be good. Admittedly the difference here is the history that the police force has had with the African American community, this is why most cities give it a bit more leeway in cases like this, but it's questionable whether this covers a bunch of white people running into stores and stealing things and setting things on fire.


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01 Jun 2020, 9:59 pm

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Trump can’t rule the guy guilty and have him beheaded, trump isn’t a king.


He seemed willing to turn the sporting world upside down when Colin Kaerpenick kneeled in a peaceful protest against the national anthem. It's funny how he invoked disrespect to veterans when most veteran groups couldn't care less as Kaerpernick was exercising his freedom which is enshrined in the constitution.

Now when real leadership is needed he chose to hide in his bunker and throw barbs at those protesting.

We don’t have such freedoms at work.
I can’t carry a sign and protest on the clock at work. He’ll I can’t even mention where I work and my beleifs at same time off the clock.

Also it’s also people’s freedom to be disgusted that people protest the American flag and anthem at sports who most people watch sports disagree with and how’s company isn’t paying him millions of dollars to protest.
Why should he be treated differently then any other employee? He can go run his own sports organization and protest on his own money. Or he could protest while not working and no one would cared.

So yiud rsther he deploy the military and arrest all the people? Cause you angry he hasn’t and stayed inside the White House. But now he says he’ll do thst your mad he left the White House and is taking action.

So damned if he does damned if he doesn’t.

If the police stop the riots they bad, if they don’t and warch buildings burned their bad.
I say pull the fire, police, do corps, paramedics out of every liberal city in 24 hours and then let the rioters burn it down. Watch how quickly people beg for them to come back.

It who cares right yiur safely in Australia. You don’t have to worry about rioters burning your house down or killing you.


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01 Jun 2020, 10:02 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
The thumbnail and title is a bit click-baity but Thinking Ape pretty much nails my perspective, not on the actual tragedy / event of what looks like a negligent execution or homicide by a given police officer while his fellow officers did nothing but about the gap in proportionality between that and the public reaction.



It's not that this is a new situation, there was an event in the early 90's that had a similar response, Thinking Ape posed the question - what would the country look like when anyone, of any ethnicity, was executed by either a rogue police officer or one whose woefully undertrained and never should have been out on the street? I'd agree, the results wouldn't be good. Admittedly the difference here is the history that the police force has had with the African American community, this is why most cities give it a bit more leeway in cases like this, but it's questionable whether this covers a bunch of white people running into stores and stealing things and setting things on fire.


It’s not just white people there’s tons and tons of video showing black people looting and burning buildingss. Seems burning buildings, looting and beating up people unites all people of all races.


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