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09 Feb 2022, 4:17 am

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I've come to something of an epiphany here. For some reason Australians are desperate for Americans to view BLM as a bogeyman. Why Australia of all places?


Because we don't like our cities being burnt down.



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How the Left betrayed the Truckers

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They call it “The Honkening”. Ottawa, Canada’s capital city, is currently being besieged by a novel kind of protest. Honkening is a fairly appropriate name for what’s going on. Thousands of truckers have driven to the capital, and barraged the city with the noise of truck horns creating a cacophony of sound. Elsewhere, on the border between the United States and Canada, truckers, farmers and cowboys have blockaded traffic.

As the protests enter another week, Ottawa’s mayor has declared a state of emergency. Jim Watson described the truckers — ostensibly protesting against Canada’s harsh Covid mandates — as “out of control”. Watson sees anarchy; the truckers fulminate against Covid authoritarianism. But this battle is really about working-class discontent.

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Many on the Left came to believe that without their corporatist union structures, and without their shop stewards and political organisers, the working classes were done for. They were little better, to paraphrase Marx, than a “sack of potatoes”.

Without proper leadership, the workers would be too inert and stupid to do anything about their plight. As such, the decades after the fall of the Soviet Union (and the defeat of the strike waves of the Eighties) saw many Leftists indulge a wistful nostalgia for a time when the workers stuck it to the powers that be. Celebration of the good old days of the Left, and of “working-class power” in general, was thus central to the aesthetics of the now completely defunct wave of Left populism in the 2010s.

With that backdrop in mind, the explosion of worker militancy over vaccine mandates — and, on a related note, high fuel taxes in Europe — ought to have been greeted by enthusiasm by the Leftist activist and organiser set. Yet nothing could be further from the truth. The truckers in Canada have instead triggered a primordial sense of dread in the hearts of the urban classes, in the people who Canadian trucker Gord Magill has dubbed “the email job caste”.

This sense of fear and dread at the machinations of the proles is hardly something unique to Canada. Indeed, even the United States saw a large increase of worker militancy and wildcat strikes over oppressive vaccine mandates. Like their compatriots in Canada, America’s various professional friends of the working class responded with horror and scorn. The well-known Marxist economist, Richard Wolff, was mobbed on Twitter for suggesting that workers striking over mandates were actually part of something called “class struggle”, rather than merely an expression of “fascism”.

Ottawa’s truckers are a symptom of the massive class divide that is opening up across the West. Marxists are sticking their heads in the sand about this generational moment, or papering it over with absurd topsy-turvy leaps. In one recent display of moon logic, the Canadian activist, writer and self-described socialist Nora Loreto complained that “labour” was invisible in the resistance to the “fascist” truckers that had occupied Ottawa. An exasperated comrade chimed in with a story of being a shop steward for a teamster (truck driver) union, and — horror of horrors — the painful truth was that many teamsters were more likely to be in the protest themselves than protesting against it.

The exchange is modern Western Leftism in a nutshell. Is there a single better illustration of the contradictions of the moment? An “activist” and organiser” recoiling in horror at a bunch of truckers — people who work in the real, material economy, ferrying the foodstuffs and goods we all depend on to survive — staging a political protest, only to then ask “but where is the organised working class in all of this?”. Isn’t it obvious to the point of parody that the workers are the people inside the trucks?

It’s easy to laugh at this sort of absurdity, but the lesson here is anything but a joke. The divorce between “the Left” and “the workers” is now complete and irrevocable. Nora Loreto may not be a person with calloused hands, and she may very well belong to Gord Magill’s “email jobs caste”. But for the longest time, the political rhetoric and worldview of the Left depended on the idea that the trucker and the activist were merely two sides of the same coin.

Without the activist and the “organiser”, the trucker would never be able to know how to organise himself and his fellows politically; without the trucker, the activist and the organiser would not have a cause for which to organise. Now it seems that the trucker — and by extension, the pilot, the garbage collector, and the bus driver — does not need or want this caste of self-appointed leaders.

Source: https://unherd.com/2022/02/how-the-left-betrayed-the-truckers/



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09 Feb 2022, 4:23 am

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Wow fluent Duckspeak! Are you a new kind of bot?


No. And no.



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09 Feb 2022, 4:26 am

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Why should they negotiate with these occupier morons?


I don't think they should negotiate. They should stay parked there till the idiots quit politics.



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09 Feb 2022, 4:39 am

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What I can tell you is that 17 year old Kyle Rittenhouse took a semiautomatic weapon to a BLM protest in a neighboring state, shot 3 people killing 2 of them, and was exonerated by the politicized legal system. Why not complain about that?


Kyle took a rifle to a family friend's car yard to try and stop rioters burning the next 160 cars. Which he did. Killing 2 people snd wounding one who were trying to kill him. A sex offender illegaly carrying a pistol (not allowed to be armed), i dont remember the details of the other two (except one beat women) but true self defence. In defence of property. Destroyed by these animals 2 nights before. Honestly, what's to complain about?


I'd like to believe that MaxE was trolling with that post, but I think he actually believes the nonsense he posted.

Given the topic has been discussed on multiple threads on this site[1] and the trial was live-streamed (I found it quite interesting to watch the whole trial, myself - There were some interesting witnesses and the way the lawyers operated was quite educational as well), there's not really any excuse to not understand how the verdict was reached, and why it was the correct one in the circumstances.

Unfortunately, there's a number of people who didn't bother to do any research or watch the trial, instead depending on their preferred media source to tell them what to think on the subject.

I will, however, agree with the remark about the politicised legal system - the prosecutors demonstrated their politicisation quite well. Fortunately the judge and defence lawyers did not indulge in such acts.

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https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=389886
https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=401169
https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=401779


An excellent analysis.

I've come to something of an epiphany here. For some reason Australians are desperate for Americans to view BLM as a bogeyman. Why Australia of all places?


And yet BLM has no bearing on the discussion - In the same way that your article bears no relationship to the events it purports to discuss.

As to why Australians may have that opinion - It's much easier to look at things in an objective manner when it's not happening in your city\country\region, as you are free to look at all the evidence available, rather than picking a side and blindly supporting it.

Besides, which BLM is being depicted as a bogeyman? BLM: the corporate structure\"charity"\millionaire-making club, or BLM: the cause?



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09 Feb 2022, 4:57 am

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Funny how all of this could be avoided if Trudeau / Freeland / Ford would talk to them, or hire a mediator.

Why should they negotiate with these occupier morons?

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09 Feb 2022, 5:06 am

Beautifully written philk on Joanie Mitchell’s song , Isabella .. you go girl !


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09 Feb 2022, 6:14 am

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I've come to something of an epiphany here. For some reason Australians are desperate for Americans to view BLM as a bogeyman. Why Australia of all places?

Because we don't like our cities being burnt down.

Who would burn your cities down because of unrest an ocean away?


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09 Feb 2022, 6:40 am

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I've come to something of an epiphany here. For some reason Australians are desperate for Americans to view BLM as a bogeyman. Why Australia of all places?

Because we don't like our cities being burnt down.

Who would burn your cities down because of unrest an ocean away?

These guys?

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09 Feb 2022, 7:09 am

For anyone here who may happen to live in the area:
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09 Feb 2022, 7:12 am

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I've come to something of an epiphany here. For some reason Australians are desperate for Americans to view BLM as a bogeyman. Why Australia of all places?

Because we don't like our cities being burnt down.

Who would burn your cities down because of unrest an ocean away?

These guys?

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Do they have a good reason for it?


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09 Feb 2022, 7:23 am

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I've come to something of an epiphany here. For some reason Australians are desperate for Americans to view BLM as a bogeyman. Why Australia of all places?

Because we don't like our cities being burnt down.

Who would burn your cities down because of unrest an ocean away?

These guys?

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Do they have a good reason for it?

One could argue that they do. I hate asking you to do your own research, but you might want to familiarize yourself with Australian history or watch the film Rabbit Proof Fence. I don't mean to imply that Australia has more to be ashamed of than the US, but they seem less open about their racial history than either the US or Canada.


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09 Feb 2022, 7:31 am

magz wrote:
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I've come to something of an epiphany here. For some reason Australians are desperate for Americans to view BLM as a bogeyman. Why Australia of all places?

Because we don't like our cities being burnt down.

Who would burn your cities down because of unrest an ocean away?

These guys?

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Do they have a good reason for it?


It depends who you ask: If you ask academics and people (aboriginal or otherwise) in the "upper"\"upper middle" classes, they'd probably say yes, but the aboriginal people I have spoken with (working class and\or middle class) would say no (my mother-in-law's partner is Aboriginal, and I've spoken to him and a number of people from his tribe on the subject, as well as a number of others)...

As with most issues to do with them, it's generally the more "well-to-do" aboriginals (and their enablers) living in the capital cities who go looking for handouts and taking the money from resulting grants which should be going to help those in the outback settlements, so they get richer while those in the settlements are left to scrape by and be used by the "well-to-do" and their enablers to justify the next round of grants, which will again fail to make it to the needy.

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The use of the term "aboriginal" is because that is how all such people I have discussed this with describe themselves... Consider it their preferred racial pronoun.



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09 Feb 2022, 7:37 am

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It depends who you ask: If you ask academics and people (aboriginal or otherwise) in the "upper"\"upper middle" classes, they'd probably say yes, but the aboriginal people I have spoken with (working class and\or middle class) would say no (my mother-in-law's partner is Aboriginal, and I've spoken to him and a number of people from his tribe on the subject, as well as a number of others)...

Then maybe the fear is unreasonable?


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It depends who you ask: If you ask academics and people (aboriginal or otherwise) in the "upper"\"upper middle" classes, they'd probably say yes, but the aboriginal people I have spoken with (working class and\or middle class) would say no (my mother-in-law's partner is Aboriginal, and I've spoken to him and a number of people from his tribe on the subject, as well as a number of others)...

Then maybe the fear is unreasonable?

I suppose the fear is reasonable if it brings about political change. The Nazis used fear to great success, and their spiritual heirs are doing the same in our present day.


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magz wrote:
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It depends who you ask: If you ask academics and people (aboriginal or otherwise) in the "upper"\"upper middle" classes, they'd probably say yes, but the aboriginal people I have spoken with (working class and\or middle class) would say no (my mother-in-law's partner is Aboriginal, and I've spoken to him and a number of people from his tribe on the subject, as well as a number of others)...

Then maybe the fear is unreasonable?


Just because people don't have an issue doesn't mean that others won't take up a cause on their behalf, thinking they know better than the people they are "protesting for"...

What proportion of these groups would you say were protesting for themselves, and what proportion for a group other than their own?
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