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17 Oct 2023, 6:04 am

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It's not uncommon for people to lose sight of the fact that we're all human beings when stereotypes and generalizations are so prevalent. Dehumanizing and demonizing the other is nothing new. I just think it's more accessible than it used to be.

Yes it's nothing new. The animosity against Jewish people is thousands of years old. The whole reason Abraham fled the babylonians is because thousands of years ago as his people were forced to flee. Their adherence to their faith is very old. It will continue to be a source of conflict with the Palestinians for centuries more after we are both long gone.

The animosity works both ways.

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17 Oct 2023, 1:26 pm

https://twitter.com/anadoluagency/statu ... %2F3023435

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17 Oct 2023, 1:31 pm

^ Btw this Hospital « Baptist Hospital » is a Christian institution.

So not only they fail to read « Press », they fail to see hospitals too.

This is a genocide: https://x.com/wtx_EU_news/status/171434 ... 08393?s=20

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17 Oct 2023, 2:08 pm

Muslims abroad can really be jerks tho, terrorism is an Islamic social phenomena like what just happened in Brussels today; there' definitely something wrong in the Islamic faith (when radicalized, which is its normal state) and it's pretty clear.

Sometimes I understand why there's Islamphobia (at times, it's not really a phobia, but a rational fear from a faith that encourages violence); so that's why I don' report his posts.

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17 Oct 2023, 2:22 pm

Is Islamophobia the same as hating a skin colour?

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17 Oct 2023, 2:25 pm

I just have concerns about those who express no sympathy or concern about what’s happening to people, including children, in Palestine when they have plenty for those in Israel. It’s utterly bizarre and demonstrates a high degree of prejudice in my opinion.

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17 Oct 2023, 2:27 pm

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Is Islamophobia the same as hating a skin colour?

You can break words down.

Phobia means "fear", and by extension "hatred".

So its "fear of Islam" or "hatred of Muslims".

Nothing to do with skin color. Fear of a particular faith.

But Islam is associated with brown skinned non European people of the world.

But its also associated with terrorism.

So...take your pick as to how rational a phobia it might be.

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17 Oct 2023, 2:30 pm

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It’s utterly bizarre and demonstrates a high degree of prejudice in my opinion.

This I can agree with and it's all to do with politics imo and I don't want to unpack that minefield

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17 Oct 2023, 2:43 pm

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Dude ...you have your facts really messed up.

Abraham never "fled" anyone.

Abraham was basically on a business trip...he was probably a trader and nomad (like the Bedouin Arabs of today) who the Bible says "left Ur of the Chaldeans". Yes it was in Mesopotamia, but it was not "Babylon" but the city of Ur of the Assyrians (the other name for the Chaldeans).

The Bible doesnt say that the Assyrians persecuted him for his faith.

He didnt yet have the relgion to persecute until after his trip started. It wasnt until AFTER he left Assyrian Ur and was in the desert that God spoke to him and made the covenant with him. It was only then that he founded Judaism. Niether he, nor anyone else on the Planet, was Jewish before that moment.

Which is why Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are together called "the Abrahamic faiths". They all trace their roots back to that moment AFTER started his business trip away from Ur.

AFAIK Jews were not really persecuted as Jews until after the destruction of the Temple and the Disaspora in around 100 AD (over two thousand years after Abraham is supposed to have lived).

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17 Oct 2023, 3:07 pm

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The IDF are claiming that the hospital wasn't a target and apparently investigating the explosion. I don't blame you if you don't believe them.

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17 Oct 2023, 3:09 pm

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The IDF are claiming that the hospital wasn't a target and apparently investigating the explosion. I don't blame you if you don't believe them.

Maybe they’re sort of like stormtroopers; their aim is so bad they can’t help but hit civilians, schools, and hospitals constantly./s

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17 Oct 2023, 3:25 pm

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Are you a historian btw?

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17 Oct 2023, 3:27 pm

Jono wrote:

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The IDF are claiming that the hospital wasn't a target and apparently investigating the explosion. I don't blame you if you don't believe them.

Truth will never be revealed (whether their claim is true or not). How will a proper investiation take place in a warzone territory?

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17 Oct 2023, 3:28 pm

Jono wrote:

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The IDF are claiming that the hospital wasn't a target and apparently investigating the explosion. I don't blame you if you don't believe them.

They'll probably say it was a Hamas rocket and have no way of proving it either way.

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17 Oct 2023, 3:43 pm

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so that's why I don' report his posts

You really ought to report islamophobia when you see it though. Islamophobia is hate, it is violence, and it should not be considered separate from the radical islamism you so frequently condemn.

Islamophobia is an irrational and hateful ideology, and radical islamism is an equally-irrational, equally-hateful response to it.

Islamophobia = Terrorism. Full stop. Islamophobia is terror and islamophobes are terrorists.

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Is Islamophobia the same as hating a skin colour?

I wouldn't say that islamophobia is racism (we have different words for a reason), but they are related diseases yes, and very often comorbid with each other.

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17 Oct 2023, 3:45 pm

Recidivist wrote:

Jono wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

The IDF are claiming that the hospital wasn't a target and apparently investigating the explosion. I don't blame you if you don't believe them.

They'll probably say it was a Hamas rocket and have no way of proving it either way.

A hamas rocket with that much powerful destructive power?

Yup, and I am Napoleon Bonaparte.

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