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People are sometimes afraid to express their condolences. They might not know you well enough. Nothing to do with “hate.”

At least Fnord expressed his condolences. That’s pretty major. It means you’re an important member of the Site.

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I like you Sly. I couldn't care less what a person's political beliefs are, so long as they are kind to others.

That's how equality works. I don't draw lines.

Pick a team, support that team, bash the other team, and turn a blind eye all the bad s**t your team does.

Both teams are dangling by the strings of the oligarchs. The performance theater you see in congress is like pro wrestling. It's nothing but a show to maintain the political divide.

So, Darmok got banned?

We can't talk about banned members, yet, we can't know they're banned unless we talk about them.

Why do you always have to defend otheres.
No they had no issue expressing with me before trump won the election.

Well, what Christian Cooper did is also "provocative" (your word) so I don't see how it would be any less wrong.



They both broke the law. Amy broke by having the dog off leash, and Christian broke by giving the dog the bones.



Like I said I am not interested in anyone under 18. But lets say I will be interested in some autistic woman in her 20-s or 30-s? Why would you be against it, unless you view me in a negative way?



Aspies are individualistic too, so that would be one reason why right wingers might not be so bad for aspies after all.

I am not saying that its that simple. I am sure there are both pros and cons on both sides. Its just that in one of your earlier posts you acted as if you have to side with the left in order to help the aspies. So I am trying to point out that its not that simple by giving you some examples of counter-points.



Thats not always true either. People on the South tend to be poor, yet they tend to side with right wing views. People in academia tend to be rich, yet they tend to side with the left wing views.



I think both left and right focus on the race -- just different aspects of it.



That is a really good point and this is one of the reasons why I am not buying into the "politically correct" narrative. From "politically correct" point of view when Chinese or Japanese or Jews have ethnic pride, thats good, but if Whites have ethnic pride thats bad. Well its double standard.

I guess maybe their point is that Whites inflicted more danage (with Nazi Germany and American Slavery being often cited examples). But they aren't alive today any more. If you look at the type of racism you see today, I doubt that it would be much worse than what you would see in China or Japan.



Yet left wingers don't feel bad about the innocent babies that are being aborted.

Helping the downtrodden might be a good idea, but not at the expense of other people whose life is also difficult. To put it bluntly, I am all in favor of upper class helping the low class, but I am against middle class having to do it. If the upper class were willing to share just a little bit more out of their millins, then I am sure it would more than make up for middle class being freed from all this.



The thing is that none of those people are alive today. People shouldn't have to bear the guilt of their ancestors if they, themselves, weren't part of it.



Well, in China the war with Tibet is still raging on, so I imagine it would be a bit more serious than here in the US.



You misunderstood the context in which I mentioned being Jewish. I agree with you that Jewish people are just as prone to anti-black racism as non-Jews. What I was trying to say, however, is this:

a) being both Jewish and aspie at the same time, I can objectively say that aspies are hated more than Jews

b) I can then extrapolate my observation in "a" to say that prejudice against aspies is worse than ethnic prejudices in general

I guess what you might say is that I shouldn't be extrapolating because blacks have it worse than Jews. But you see, if you look at history, thats not true: blacks were only persecutted for few centuries and Jews were persecutted for millenia. Now, if you look at *todays* society then things are different and, yes, probably blacks *do* have it worse than Jews. But -- again if you look at todays society -- then aspies have it even worse than blacks. In other words,

c) If you look at millenia-long history then the most hated group is Jews

d) If you look at today, then the most hated group are aspies

In neither case its the blacks.

I guess blacks "would" be the most hated group if you "specifically" look at the history of American slavery. But that is pretty narrow look isn't it. So that kinda goes back to why is the world so obsessed with America anyway? Well I guess maybe in case of the current events it makes sense since they happend in America. But then why be obsessed with that specific time period of American history instead of being obsessed about right here right now?



Agreed -- except that both left and right are guilty of prejudice, just a different kind. Thats why I don't see why the leftist brand of prejudice is any better for aspies.

In fact, I will quote what you just said yourself:

a) You mentioned that Chinese, Japanese and Jewish societies can be viewed as National Socialistic. So what makes you think that these brands of prejudice are better for aspies than the pro-White brand of it?

b) You mentioned that left wingers are more collectivist while right wingers are more individualist. Well, the type of prejudice an aspie can fall victim to is "my group of friends doesn't like you so I don't like you". That sounds collectivist, does it not? So that would suggest that right-wing individualism would be a cure for it: a right winger would say "me and you are both individuals so I don't mind the fact that my friends don't like you: I still like you so I will give you a chance".



Wow that is a lot of achievement. I started speaking at the normal age (probalby around 1). I have Asperger rather than autism so people with Asperger start talking normally. But I probably struggle with friends more than your daughter since nobody talks to me on campus. Although at the same time its also true that things became more difficult when I was older. In my case I didn't care about friends at all until I was 21, then at the 21 I made U-turn from not caring to being outright desperate, so I guess that being desperate pushed people away. Before I was 21 they were more willing to give me some overtures and attempt to befriend me -- although I didn't make use of it since back then I didn't really care.



I would say it is a good argument *in favor* of being an advocate: you would attempt to do something that nobody else is trying to do and perhaps attempt to change their mind.



What does the term "rehaul" mean?



Can you elaborate?

Basically the only way you’ll know is if we talk about them enough the mods will put stop to it and issue warning.

That's a real catch-23** situation.

**@1:19

So, we'll take turns asking, they can't ban us all.

We tend to be hard-headed, prone to misinterpreting other's ways of expressing concepts, aloof with a tendency to forget about whatever's outside of the spotlight sometimes. Unfortunately this leads to the same of social awkwardness on here that we deal with in real life. What happens when you combine a selection of people with toxic traits.

Whether it's whiny or angry or defeatist or whatever, we are what we are.
This community, one other forum, my co-workers and both of my parents and one of my brothers are the only people I interact with regularly. Even the person on here I dislike the most is still closer to being a friend than the opposite.

Does that mean sometimes I'm my own imaginary friend?

For starters, appearing prejudiced towards someone based on traits they can't control (race, where you're from, etc) is different than being motivated by the views of theirs you've been exposed to. For what it's worth I've also argued strongly against assuming white southern posters on here are racist in defence of Twisty not long after he had slandered me (to be fair, I went after him far harsher than you've ever seen from me, got the apology I wanted and felt the need to make it clear that I bore no further ill will). I'm usually pretty quick to dissent when a lot of my fellow Canadians bash on the US. I'm not certain where you're from, I post that more to point out that it isn't just the groups that are sometimes assumed to be 'left wing pet causes' that I feel the need to argue in defence of depending on the situation.

I thought it would be both rude and obsessive to actually provide a list of criticisms of a bunch of your posts. I figured it was already kinda weird to put that much effort into trying to be balanced instead of judging people based just on the most recent interaction. I guess basically because I think I'm unreasonable in how I approach 'researching people' that without you specifically saying you'd like that sort of precise feedback, I'd feel it's unreasonable to even consider preparing that.

I'll do it if you'd really like it, but I'm lazy and using this to procrastinate from working on music, so I'd prefer to stick to broader observations because it isn't just in this thread or on the topic of police brutality.

I saw those posts, and I don't disagree you do seem at least somewhat motivated by playing devil's advocate in this thread. Further, for the extent to which it deserves credit, I found your points about how your kid would be your kid regardless of background (I'm not sure why the comparison between having your own kid who's mixed vs. adopting a white kid occurred, but whatever, not questioning it) to be something positive to point out.



This is a well-worded way to express this.

I'd suggest it's also a case of finding the most outrageous supporter of the other team, pick their most outrageous beliefs, then tar the entire support base of the other side as having these views, rather than having the intelectual honesty to see that this WAS an outlier and trying to understand the other side is made of many people with (often divergent) individual views, motivations, and goals.

Similarly, framing a policy from the other side's team in the worst, most extreme way (often ignoring "inconvient" facts\parts of the policy) and aguing against it on this basis rather than listening to the other sides' explanation\reasoning behind the policy.

Sadly, intellectual discourse has gone out of favor having being replaced with "my side, right or wrong".

Personally, if I come across something I may not agree with, I like to try and take the opposing view to understand WHY the action\decision could have occurred (often arguing against my "prefered" side), rather than assume my instinctive reaction is correct. Sometimes it reinforces my belief, sometimes it reverses it, and as new facts come to light I go through the same exercise again.

“White” is not an ethnic group.

The only people who believe “white people” comprise an ethnic group are “white nationalists.”

race is IMHO largely a defective social construct.

Can you show me a law where giving a dog bones is illegal?


How often do you come across an autistic woman in Berkley? I have worked or studied in more than 15 different universities over the last 30 years in 2-3 different countries and never once met one autistic female, I met one autistic male but he was a mature age student.


Fair enough, I don't want to stop you from being who you are and what you value, people are different.


Which is technically another generalisation. In academia I meet plenty of selfish self-centred bastards (the higher education system is crawling with such types).


Central Asians, east Asians and caucasians have murdered more people than anyone else. These regions have been in states of perpetual warfare until 1945.


They are beneficiaries of colonialism which is why call this the post-colonial era historically.


Again with the oppression olympics? Jews are historically despised in Europe only because jews were responsible for the renaissance and many of the great academic, commercial and historical milestones and they obviously generated a lot of jealousy and suspicion. In the Arab world they became unpopular only after the formation of the state of Israel and some of the hatred is perhaps justified. In the rest of the world nobody knows the difference between a jew and a whiteman.

In stark contrast every single cultural and ethnic group look down on black Africans. I have seen darker peoples in the Philippines, India and even Melanesia who openly dislike Africans. Even our aboriginal Australians who are currently marching in BLM marches in Melbourne as we speak get into gang wars with african youth in Sydney and Melbourne. This is why I try give Africans a fair hearing as they have it worst.


Because the two are connected. In funerals among African Americans there is a lot of open grieving where the pastor talks of the all the potential a person had when they passed away and all the obstacles in their lives which are a relic from the past. Apaprently this is a common theme in African American funerals. The past always looms over African Americans and they are reminded of their inferiority every day they walk in the street.


My daughter is going through that phase now. There's female friends at school who spend time with her at recess and lunchtime and she keeps asking me if I have met their parents (which I have) she's always trying to socially engineer outings (including giving me phone numbers) but the bloody parents have told me their daughters have their own friends and that's why they don't invite my daughter to outings or to their birthdays. I am relieved she doesn't have a birthday party this year because I actually hate the parents of the other kids and the kids themselves seem to like her but they prefer to keep their distance.


Not interested anymore


Re-organise...the services for autistic kids is terrible, professionals I have come across as making careers out of the suffering of parents. I could write pages on my experiences as a parent but I'll refer you to the 120,000 posts I made on the parent section of WP

And people in governments who design census