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05 Oct 2017, 9:14 am

I still find it amazing that bump stocks were legalized during a Democratic administration. Listening to the tapes of the gunshots and how fast Paddocks guns were able to shoot, even I was saying there is absolutely no reason to have that kind of device on a gun and still don't. However, I don't think it should be made illegal during a Republican administration. That just wouldn't make any sense.


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05 Oct 2017, 9:24 am

Thinking more about it, I think I could use a bump stock - no telling when my neighbor, The Biatch, may show up at my door again. Wouldn't she be surprised. :mrgreen:


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05 Oct 2017, 9:25 am

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I still find it amazing that bump stocks were legalized during a Democratic administration.

The democrats started the KKK so it's not that surprising. Industries like the firearms and tobacco industries are powerful industries that tend to get their way regardless of who is in power. The country can't be ran without them.



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05 Oct 2017, 10:29 am

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Thinking more about it, I think I could use a bump stock - no telling when my neighbor, The Biatch, may show up at my door again. Wouldn't she be surprised. :mrgreen:


You can use your belt loop :wink:

EDIT: I don't know I bumped this or that was even a feature... Last time I diddle this site on my phone.



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05 Oct 2017, 10:32 am

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Hey Miss C. Sorry I was a little short with you last night. I think I process things differently than most of you guys. Too much info and I get overloaded. I also don't always go back to read stuff because I'm too busy trying to post new info I just found out. I get way too many emails to go back and look at replies that way.

If I miss anyone's stuff, just tell me - in a nice way, please. :mrgreen:

Okey-dokey----no probs (no problem in what you said, last night; and, no problem telling you in a nice way).




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05 Oct 2017, 10:35 am

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Thinking more about it, I think I could use a bump stock - no telling when my neighbor, The Biatch, may show up at my door again. Wouldn't she be surprised. :mrgreen:

LOLOL Yep----that would be her LAST surprise, TOO!! LOL







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05 Oct 2017, 10:44 am

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I'm still not accepting that it took them 75 minutes to enter his room. That's a long time. I know I keep repeating myself,but I really think there is something up with that.

People are saying they saw a gun firing on the 4th floor too.So that's the 29th floor and now the 4th. But Savage said that he didn't see any broken windows.


The shots happened from 10:08pm to 10:20pm .. then police arrive at 11:20pm.

So, after his attack, then the gunman sat alone in his room, not shooting for one hour ? Seems odd.

How does this makes sense with what the sheriff says: "He was doing everything possible to see how he could escape at this point," Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said.

What? He had 1 hour before the police knocked down his door. He had ample opportunity to walk out of the building.



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05 Oct 2017, 11:33 am

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The shots happened from 10:08pm to 10:20pm .. then police arrive at 11:20pm.

So, after his attack, then the gunman sat alone in his room, not shooting for one hour ? Seems odd.

How does this makes sense with what the sheriff says: "He was doing everything possible to see how he could escape at this point," Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said.

What? He had 1 hour before the police knocked down his door. He had ample opportunity to walk out of the building.

IDK----none of this seems to jive with what I found, that is supposed to be the Sheriff's official timeline:

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10:05 P.M.

The first gunshots are fired from Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino, seen on closed-circuit television.

10:12 P.M.

Two Las Vegas Metro Police officers arrive on the 31st floor of Mandalay Bay, hear gunshots on the floor above.

10:15 P.M.

Last shots from Paddock are fired, according to body worn camera footage.

10:17 P.M.

LVMPD officers arrive at the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay.

10:18 P.M.

Mandalay Bay security tells LVMPD officers he was shot through hotel room door and gives officers the exact location of Paddock's room.

10:26 P.M. - 10:30 P.M.

8 additional officers systematically begin clearing the 32nd floor room by room. No further gunfire is heard.

10:55 P.M.

8 more officers arrive in the staircase on the opposite end of the hallway nearest to Paddock's room.

11:20 P.M.

Officers breach Paddock's hotel room and find him on the ground and notice another door they cannot access from their position.

11:27 P.M.

Officers breach the 2nd doorway and find no one inside the room. Officers call that the suspect is down.

In all, the situation lasted 75 minutes from first shot until Paddock was found dead. (Timeline updated per Sheriff Joseph Lombardo on Wednesday.)
http://www.ktnv.com/news/timeline-of-events-las-vegas-mass-shooting

That last line, there, that mentions the 75-minutes was referring to start-to-finish, and NOT "until police entered the room", like whomever NA got her information from, seems to have thought.

Also, there's a BIG difference between the times "10:17pm" (in the timeline), and "11:20pm" (in this post I quoted), stated, as to when police arrived.





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05 Oct 2017, 11:48 am

OK, I'm really getting tired of this. Now the police are having a press conference trying to justify their actions. I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE DAMN FBI!


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05 Oct 2017, 11:53 am

Oh, SHOOT----I keep forgetting to put what I heard on The Today Show, this morning.....

The sheriff said:

- - that he (the sheriff) thought Paddock had help (as in, help obtaining weapons, NOT help in shooting).

- - that he feels that Paddock TRULY thought that he'd survive and escape (might be why he didn't leave a note - IF he didn't).

- - that there seemed to be evidence that Paddock spent time with another woman (maybe that explains the "2 Guests", on that Room Service receipt - ALSO, maybe that's our "you're all gonna die, anyway" woman).





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05 Oct 2017, 11:58 am

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LoveNotHate wrote:
The shots happened from 10:08pm to 10:20pm .. then police arrive at 11:20pm.

So, after his attack, then the gunman sat alone in his room, not shooting for one hour ? Seems odd.

How does this makes sense with what the sheriff says: "He was doing everything possible to see how he could escape at this point," Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said.

What? He had 1 hour before the police knocked down his door. He had ample opportunity to walk out of the building.

IDK----none of this seems to jive with what I found, that is supposed to be the Sheriff's official timeline:

ktnv.com wrote:
10:05 P.M.

The first gunshots are fired from Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino, seen on closed-circuit television.

10:12 P.M.

Two Las Vegas Metro Police officers arrive on the 31st floor of Mandalay Bay, hear gunshots on the floor above.

10:15 P.M.

Last shots from Paddock are fired, according to body worn camera footage.

10:17 P.M.

LVMPD officers arrive at the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay.

10:18 P.M.

Mandalay Bay security tells LVMPD officers he was shot through hotel room door and gives officers the exact location of Paddock's room.

10:26 P.M. - 10:30 P.M.

8 additional officers systematically begin clearing the 32nd floor room by room. No further gunfire is heard.

10:55 P.M.

8 more officers arrive in the staircase on the opposite end of the hallway nearest to Paddock's room.

11:20 P.M.

Officers breach Paddock's hotel room and find him on the ground and notice another door they cannot access from their position.

11:27 P.M.

Officers breach the 2nd doorway and find no one inside the room. Officers call that the suspect is down.

In all, the situation lasted 75 minutes from first shot until Paddock was found dead. (Timeline updated per Sheriff Joseph Lombardo on Wednesday.)
http://www.ktnv.com/news/timeline-of-events-las-vegas-mass-shooting

That last line, there, that mentions the 75-minutes was referring to start-to-finish, and NOT "until police entered the room", like whomever NA got her information from, seems to have thought.

Also, there's a BIG difference between the times "10:17pm" (in the timeline), and "11:20pm" (in this post I quoted), stated, as to when police arrived.


I don't get what you are saying.

10:15 - 10:18 p.m.: Paddock shoots a hotel security guard. (There were no more shots after this)
11:20 p.m.: SWAT teams break into Paddock's room and find him dead.


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05 Oct 2017, 12:01 pm

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Oh, SHOOT----I keep forgetting to put what I heard on The Today Show, this morning.....

The sheriff said:

- - that he (the sheriff) thought Paddock had help (as in, help obtaining weapons, NOT help in shooting).

- - that he feels that Paddock TRULY thought that he'd survive and escape (might be why he didn't leave a note - IF he didn't).

- - that there seemed to be evidence that Paddock spent time with another woman (maybe that explains the "2 Guests", on that Room Service receipt - ALSO, maybe that's our "you're all gonna die, anyway" woman).


There is a note. The sheriff already said that, but that it wasn't a suicide note. I smell a conspiracy.


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05 Oct 2017, 12:02 pm

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I don't get what you are saying.

10:15 - 10:18 p.m.: Paddock shoots a hotel security guard. (There were no more shots after this)
11:20 p.m.: SWAT teams break into Paddock's room and find him dead.


After he was distracted by the security guard and fires a few rounds at him. He was afraid SWAT would be right behind him and he decided to eat a bullet.

See this GRAPHIC pic of a very dead Paddock



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05 Oct 2017, 12:42 pm

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Campin_Cat wrote:
That last line, there, that mentions the 75-minutes was referring to start-to-finish, and NOT "until police entered the room", like whomever NA got her information from, seems to have thought.

Also, there's a BIG difference between the times "10:17pm" (in the timeline), and "11:20pm" (in this post I quoted), stated, as to when police arrived.

I don't get what you are saying.

10:15 - 10:18 p.m.: Paddock shoots a hotel security guard. (There were no more shots after this)
11:20 p.m.: SWAT teams break into Paddock's room and find him dead.

I'm not sure which statement of mine, you're questioning----BUT, if you're questioning what I said about LoveNotHate's post, I said what I did because SHE said: "then police arrive at 11:20pm"; it said in the supposed official timeline that the police ARRIVED at "10:17pm".

If, however, you're questioning why I said what I did, about whomever you got your information from, saying that it was 75 minutes, 'til they ENTERED the room----then, you're right to question what I said, because it WAS 75 minutes (from 10:05 - 11:20pm is 75 minutes - I'm thinkin' that I, TOO, was confusing "arrived" with "entered").

As to why it took that long: I'm back to "search warrant"----that's the only thing I can think-of; cuz, like I said, maybe because the shooting stopped at "10:15pm", that took-away the "obvious-ness" that cops need to enter a person's room. Another thing that I just happened to think-of, is that they had no way of knowing, whether or not, if they just turned the door-knob, that they wouldn't blow-UP----PLUS, they didn't know he was dead; I can certainly see why that would give them pause (and thus, take longer to analyze / plan what to do).

I'm just not as willing to jump straight to "they're covering something up", just yet.....





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05 Oct 2017, 12:48 pm

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I don't get what you are saying.

10:15 - 10:18 p.m.: Paddock shoots a hotel security guard. (There were no more shots after this)
11:20 p.m.: SWAT teams break into Paddock's room and find him dead.


After he was distracted by the security guard and fires a few rounds at him. He was afraid SWAT would be right behind him and he decided to eat a bullet.

See this GRAPHIC pic of a very dead Paddock


Wow. They show everything these days. Was that a leaked photo?


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05 Oct 2017, 12:51 pm

Being Miss Conspiracy Theory, how do we really know that was him? Especially with all the blood?


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