12 Sep 2019, 4:06 am
12 Sep 2019, 4:28 am
12 Sep 2019, 4:31 am
12 Sep 2019, 4:32 am
Persephone29 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
You are not going to like my response but here is my opinion. I would educate her as far as she can be educated and make her as independent as possible while accepting the harsh reality that she is more then likely not going to be hold a job and live on her own.
That is exactly what was done with me. And it was the right way to proceed.
cubedemon6073 wrote:
If this is possible....
Quite honestly I think all of the money that is used for therapy and mainstreaming and normalizing can be better spent just investing into some kind of trust fund. Even with therapy and all of this extra help the majority of us are unemployed even if we went to college.
I think he has the right idea. https://autismgadfly.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -help.html
My goal would be not for them to be employed but for your daughter to live at her own place being by her trust fund. Mainstreaming and trying to put them in competitive employment does not work for an autistic person.
Quite honestly I think all of the money that is used for therapy and mainstreaming and normalizing can be better spent just investing into some kind of trust fund. Even with therapy and all of this extra help the majority of us are unemployed even if we went to college.
I think he has the right idea. https://autismgadfly.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -help.html
My goal would be not for them to be employed but for your daughter to live at her own place being by her trust fund. Mainstreaming and trying to put them in competitive employment does not work for an autistic person.
Most of us with significant autism require a 24/7 caregiver. My living independently will mean moving into a room in a care home. That is the best I am able going to be able to manage as far as being on my own goes.
I'm totally fine with that. I would like it if she could communicate to her satisfaction, she gets frustrated now. She understands everything we say to her, follows directions. She's wonderful and the sweetest kid ever.
I liked what you said about very bright but locked in. Such a good way to put it. I didn't have a real breakthrough until I was half way into 8 years old. Not being able to communicate at all is mega-frustrating. Is her twin able intercede/interpret for her? My "twin" cousin I was raised with had a nack for it. Came in handy.
12 Sep 2019, 4:50 am
EzraS wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
You are not going to like my response but here is my opinion. I would educate her as far as she can be educated and make her as independent as possible while accepting the harsh reality that she is more then likely not going to be hold a job and live on her own.
That is exactly what was done with me. And it was the right way to proceed.
cubedemon6073 wrote:
If this is possible....
Quite honestly I think all of the money that is used for therapy and mainstreaming and normalizing can be better spent just investing into some kind of trust fund. Even with therapy and all of this extra help the majority of us are unemployed even if we went to college.
I think he has the right idea. https://autismgadfly.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -help.html
My goal would be not for them to be employed but for your daughter to live at her own place being by her trust fund. Mainstreaming and trying to put them in competitive employment does not work for an autistic person.
Quite honestly I think all of the money that is used for therapy and mainstreaming and normalizing can be better spent just investing into some kind of trust fund. Even with therapy and all of this extra help the majority of us are unemployed even if we went to college.
I think he has the right idea. https://autismgadfly.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -help.html
My goal would be not for them to be employed but for your daughter to live at her own place being by her trust fund. Mainstreaming and trying to put them in competitive employment does not work for an autistic person.
Most of us with significant autism require a 24/7 caregiver. My living independently will mean moving into a room in a care home. That is the best I am able going to be able to manage as far as being on my own goes.
I'm totally fine with that. I would like it if she could communicate to her satisfaction, she gets frustrated now. She understands everything we say to her, follows directions. She's wonderful and the sweetest kid ever.
I liked what you said about very bright but locked in. Such a good way to put it. I didn't have a real breakthrough until I was half way into 8 years old. Not being able to communicate at all is mega-frustrating. Is her twin able intercede/interpret for her? My "twin" cousin I was raised with had a nack for it. Came in handy.
We all pretty much know how to interpret Emily's needs. If she's hungry, she'll run back and forth to the kitchen. I can pick her up and hold her at the different levels of the fridge or cabinet and she'll point or occasionally say, "some." I keep a cup full for her, I stay worried about hydration because she's very tiny. She will not communicate something she does not like to engage in, like potty training. It's just hit or miss. She likes massages and will hold her limbs out for them. She loves to draw. I can ask her to say 'Grandpa' and she will. But, it's more of a mimic. She would never walk up to someone and initiate a conversation. She will say NO, and or have a fit if we are teaching her a new skill. She hated trying to learn sign language, yet she could remember the signs and use them many months later. She could decide she didn't feel like mimicking a word, but you'd hear here say it in another room 30 minutes later, all alone. She's just a really neat and unique kid.
12 Sep 2019, 4:58 am
12 Sep 2019, 5:00 am
12 Sep 2019, 5:05 am
Persephone29 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
You are not going to like my response but here is my opinion. I would educate her as far as she can be educated and make her as independent as possible while accepting the harsh reality that she is more then likely not going to be hold a job and live on her own.
That is exactly what was done with me. And it was the right way to proceed.
cubedemon6073 wrote:
If this is possible....
Quite honestly I think all of the money that is used for therapy and mainstreaming and normalizing can be better spent just investing into some kind of trust fund. Even with therapy and all of this extra help the majority of us are unemployed even if we went to college.
I think he has the right idea. https://autismgadfly.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -help.html
My goal would be not for them to be employed but for your daughter to live at her own place being by her trust fund. Mainstreaming and trying to put them in competitive employment does not work for an autistic person.
Quite honestly I think all of the money that is used for therapy and mainstreaming and normalizing can be better spent just investing into some kind of trust fund. Even with therapy and all of this extra help the majority of us are unemployed even if we went to college.
I think he has the right idea. https://autismgadfly.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -help.html
My goal would be not for them to be employed but for your daughter to live at her own place being by her trust fund. Mainstreaming and trying to put them in competitive employment does not work for an autistic person.
Most of us with significant autism require a 24/7 caregiver. My living independently will mean moving into a room in a care home. That is the best I am able going to be able to manage as far as being on my own goes.
I'm totally fine with that. I would like it if she could communicate to her satisfaction, she gets frustrated now. She understands everything we say to her, follows directions. She's wonderful and the sweetest kid ever.
I liked what you said about very bright but locked in. Such a good way to put it. I didn't have a real breakthrough until I was half way into 8 years old. Not being able to communicate at all is mega-frustrating. Is her twin able intercede/interpret for her? My "twin" cousin I was raised with had a nack for it. Came in handy.
We all pretty much know how to interpret Emily's needs. If she's hungry, she'll run back and forth to the kitchen. I can pick her up and hold her at the different levels of the fridge or cabinet and she'll point or occasionally say, "some." I keep a cup full for her, I stay worried about hydration because she's very tiny. She will not communicate something she does not like to engage in, like potty training. It's just hit or miss. She likes massages and will hold her limbs out for them. She loves to draw. I can ask her to say 'Grandpa' and she will. But, it's more of a mimic. She would never walk up to someone and initiate a conversation. She will say NO, and or have a fit if we are teaching her a new skill. She hated trying to learn sign language, yet she could remember the signs and use them many months later. She could decide she didn't feel like mimicking a word, but you'd hear here say it in another room 30 minutes later, all alone. She's just a really neat and unique kid.
Even after all this time and speech therapy all I really do is mimick or recite. Forget a regular verbal convention. But as you know a lot can be said using few words.
12 Sep 2019, 5:09 am
12 Sep 2019, 5:13 am
EzraS wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
You are not going to like my response but here is my opinion. I would educate her as far as she can be educated and make her as independent as possible while accepting the harsh reality that she is more then likely not going to be hold a job and live on her own.
That is exactly what was done with me. And it was the right way to proceed.
cubedemon6073 wrote:
If this is possible....
Quite honestly I think all of the money that is used for therapy and mainstreaming and normalizing can be better spent just investing into some kind of trust fund. Even with therapy and all of this extra help the majority of us are unemployed even if we went to college.
I think he has the right idea. https://autismgadfly.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -help.html
My goal would be not for them to be employed but for your daughter to live at her own place being by her trust fund. Mainstreaming and trying to put them in competitive employment does not work for an autistic person.
Quite honestly I think all of the money that is used for therapy and mainstreaming and normalizing can be better spent just investing into some kind of trust fund. Even with therapy and all of this extra help the majority of us are unemployed even if we went to college.
I think he has the right idea. https://autismgadfly.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -help.html
My goal would be not for them to be employed but for your daughter to live at her own place being by her trust fund. Mainstreaming and trying to put them in competitive employment does not work for an autistic person.
Most of us with significant autism require a 24/7 caregiver. My living independently will mean moving into a room in a care home. That is the best I am able going to be able to manage as far as being on my own goes.
I'm totally fine with that. I would like it if she could communicate to her satisfaction, she gets frustrated now. She understands everything we say to her, follows directions. She's wonderful and the sweetest kid ever.
I liked what you said about very bright but locked in. Such a good way to put it. I didn't have a real breakthrough until I was half way into 8 years old. Not being able to communicate at all is mega-frustrating. Is her twin able intercede/interpret for her? My "twin" cousin I was raised with had a nack for it. Came in handy.
We all pretty much know how to interpret Emily's needs. If she's hungry, she'll run back and forth to the kitchen. I can pick her up and hold her at the different levels of the fridge or cabinet and she'll point or occasionally say, "some." I keep a cup full for her, I stay worried about hydration because she's very tiny. She will not communicate something she does not like to engage in, like potty training. It's just hit or miss. She likes massages and will hold her limbs out for them. She loves to draw. I can ask her to say 'Grandpa' and she will. But, it's more of a mimic. She would never walk up to someone and initiate a conversation. She will say NO, and or have a fit if we are teaching her a new skill. She hated trying to learn sign language, yet she could remember the signs and use them many months later. She could decide she didn't feel like mimicking a word, but you'd hear here say it in another room 30 minutes later, all alone. She's just a really neat and unique kid.
Even after all this time and speech therapy all I really do is mimick or recite. Forget a regular verbal convention. But as you know a lot can be said using few words.
That gives me hope. As long as I know she can be heard in some way, by sign or writing, or something.
12 Sep 2019, 5:47 am
12 Sep 2019, 6:17 am
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
You do it then... or Canada. Y'all have a lot more space for the kinds of numbers of people you want saved.
Not sure about Canada but Australia is a dry uninhabitable continent with only the thin coastal regions being able to sustain large populations.
That's fine. But you shouldn't tell countries who have every square inch spoken for that they should be taking on the woes of the world. Your systems work for you because you will never be entirely over populated. Say what you will about the climate of the Outback, but you know that land IS inhabitable. As is the Arctic, the aboriginals have been doing it for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years. But, it's not EASY. And it's not my business what's easy, it's my business what's doable. And we know it's doable because people are doing it.
So, it's safe to say that I resent someone like you telling me that I must cram my country cheek and jowl, when you will never know cheek and jowl.
On the issue of immigration I advocate population control and protection of natural environments so I prefer to invest in keeping developing countries prosperous and happy so that they don't have to leave/emigrate. Australia is already past sustainable levels for major capital cities and so I have no problem restricting immigration intake so long as there are valid alternatives for refugees.
Would 'valid' alternatives simply mean some other country? Our lands are all spoken for, as well. Either owned by ranchers, reservations or National Parks. As it stands now, California's skid row is bumper to bumper tents from unchecked, illegal immigration. So, we're full. Let's see... who can we foist them off onto? We could send them to Siberia, oh wait, Russia doesn't welcome immigrants. How about China? No, don't like their conversion camps? You're 'full' and only 700,000 aboriginals inhabit the majority of your land mass. Despite the fact that it's desert, full of Camels, snakes and craters, so it should feel just like home. Canada is cold, so refugees fleeing for their lives might be disgruntled. Gee, I don't really see a lot of options. So, send money to the countries and tell them to stay home. Or, take a full scale ARMY in and round up all the cartel. Either way, sweep your own doorstep. You say ugly things about other countries, while claiming the need to preserve natural resources from millions of square miles inhabited by roughly 10% of Australia's population. Must be nice to know what everyone else should be doing while protecting your own.
I appreciate this conversation. From now on, when I see you talking smack about saving everyone, I'll remember it.
13 Sep 2019, 3:38 am
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16 Sep 2019, 3:31 am
cubedemon6073 wrote:
Typical of conservatives to run away like holy water on vampires when their beliefs are questioned.
People have all sorts of excuses why they can't do something.
You can choose to have personal responsibility or blame others.
If EVER you find yourself blaming someone else, just think about how YOU could of changed your behavior to have avoided the situation.
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