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11 Jan 2021, 6:24 pm

Yep "card carrying" is widely used to denote membership of a group



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13 Jan 2021, 7:05 pm

Is anyone else as amazed as I am that there were COPS among the mob?


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13 Jan 2021, 7:20 pm

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Is anyone else as amazed as I am that there were COPS among the mob?


Not amazed at all. Authoritarian figures like Trump appeal to the like-minded - people who like to have power over others. There are plenty of these in the police, correctional services, armed forces.

There were several ex-military involved also.

I have no doubt that, in their view, they were being brave upholders of American values.



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13 Jan 2021, 7:37 pm

Where I work, there are some people who like Trump----but I do believe most thought the Insurrection was totally idiotic.



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13 Jan 2021, 7:43 pm

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Where I work, there are some people who like Trump----but I do believe most thought the Insurrection was totally idiotic.


GOP people are having an increasingly difficult time justifying their support for Trump. The benefits are fast diminishing.



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13 Jan 2021, 10:03 pm

The Trump minions were sheeple. Silly minions falling for the lies and conspiracies. Now they are paying for their stupidity.


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13 Jan 2021, 10:17 pm

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Silly minions falling for the lies and conspiracies.


Are they really all that stupid? or do they actually agree with what MAGAs and Trump is/has been saying?



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13 Jan 2021, 11:38 pm

cyberdad wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Silly minions falling for the lies and conspiracies.


Are they really all that stupid? or do they actually agree with what MAGAs and Trump is/has been saying?


An old buddy from junior high (middle school they now call it) got into contact with me on Facebook. It took no time for him to reveal how he's bought hook-line-and-sinker into Trump. I can recite every fact known to man about Trump, and he'll say it's commie lies. He now insists the capitol had been invaded by Antifa. Then there's how he insists the Civil War had been fought over states rights. So, yes, they are stupid, and intentionally so.


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13 Jan 2021, 11:52 pm

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cyberdad wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Silly minions falling for the lies and conspiracies.


Are they really all that stupid? or do they actually agree with what MAGAs and Trump is/has been saying?


An old buddy from junior high (middle school they now call it) got into contact with me on Facebook. It took no time for him to reveal how he's bought hook-line-and-sinker into Trump. I can recite every fact known to man about Trump, and he'll say it's commie lies. He now insists the capitol had been invaded by Antifa. Then there's how he insists the Civil War had been fought over states rights. So, yes, they are stupid, and intentionally so.


The intentional bit is what is at the crux of the issue. My theory is they are punishing democrats (even if its not benefiting them) for electing Obama.



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14 Jan 2021, 12:07 am

cyberdad wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Silly minions falling for the lies and conspiracies.


Are they really all that stupid? or do they actually agree with what MAGAs and Trump is/has been saying?



Both.


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14 Jan 2021, 12:48 am

Lenin described such true believers, as "useful idiots."



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14 Jan 2021, 12:53 am

cyberdad wrote:
The intentional bit is what is at the crux of the issue. My theory is they are punishing democrats (even if its not benefiting them) for electing Obama.

A friend of mine maintains that this all started with Obama ridiculing Trump in a public speech, at a function that both attended. Ever since it's been a very personal grudge match.

Not sure how genuine that is.

I ought to trawl YouTube for it, but can't bring myself to do so.

Even though I wouldn't blame Obama for underestimating the consequences of calling out a narcissist.



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14 Jan 2021, 1:00 am

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cyberdad wrote:
The intentional bit is what is at the crux of the issue. My theory is they are punishing democrats (even if its not benefiting them) for electing Obama.

A friend of mine maintains that this all started with Obama ridiculing Trump in a public speech, at a function that both attended. Ever since it's been a very personal grudge match. Not sure how genuine that is. I ought to trawl YouTube for it, but can't bring myself to do so. Even though I wouldn't blame Obama for underestimating the consequences of calling out a narcissist.

it was at a roast/white house correspondents' dinner in 2011.



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14 Jan 2021, 1:04 am

cyberdad wrote:
The intentional bit is what is at the crux of the issue. My theory is they are punishing democrats (even if its not benefiting them) for electing Obama.

Who's pushing whom to vote for Obama (who's no longer eligible to be elected president)?



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14 Jan 2021, 1:09 am

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
The intentional bit is what is at the crux of the issue. My theory is they are punishing democrats (even if its not benefiting them) for electing Obama.

Who's pushing whom to vote for Obama (who's no longer eligible to be elected president)?


Talking about elections past, when Obama cleaned the floor with Republicans.


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14 Jan 2021, 1:47 am

auntblabby wrote:
Redd_Kross wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
The intentional bit is what is at the crux of the issue. My theory is they are punishing democrats (even if its not benefiting them) for electing Obama.

A friend of mine maintains that this all started with Obama ridiculing Trump in a public speech, at a function that both attended. Ever since it's been a very personal grudge match. Not sure how genuine that is. I ought to trawl YouTube for it, but can't bring myself to do so. Even though I wouldn't blame Obama for underestimating the consequences of calling out a narcissist.

it was at a roast/white house correspondents' dinner in 2011.


God damn! no wonder trump goes after Obama :lol: he deserved the roasting, absolutely brilliant,

But that still means he still only the agent for the 74 million idiots to exact their revenge for having a black president.