Emergence of a Deadly Coronavirus

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I wasn't suggesting that he actually has it, or that I can get it from him.

His illness made me wonder about animals and COVID, but I'm lightyears from making him a broken parachute.

Didn't someone say that bacteria causes pneumonia?
Didn't someone say the virus reduces the immune system, thereby allowing pneumonia to develop?
Didn't someone say it is pneumonia which kills people?

Please correct if this isn't true.

Pneumonia can also be caused by viruses. Of fungi. Or some other type of microorganism.

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https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/12 ... 7589957645

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200404_05/

I agree all this has got to happen.

So, no, bacteria are not the only potential causative agent and without confirmation of them being present there's no real argument in favour of using antibiotics. Someone who's fighting one infection might be more prone to developing secondary infections, but without a positive culture swab for something that an antibiotic can target it's going to be wasted; further, since not all antibiotics are effective against all bacterial infections, you should confirm what is actually present before starting to use an antibiotic.

Jimmy, what demensions are the masks your wife is making?

All that is true. In fact, one of the most common combinations of treatment drugs for COVID-19 is (a) hydroxychloroquine, plus (b) azithromycin.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204
https://www.michiganradio.org/post/henry-ford-uses-hydroxychloroquine-treat-covid-19-symptoms-says-benefits-outweigh-risks

Azythromycin is an antibiotic. It is used as a part in the combination of drugs to treat COVID-19.

... “One of the reasons that the virus can be so deadly is it activates the immune system, there’s an overreaction of the immune system, and the azithromycin might also help to reduce some of that overactivity of the immune system which is another mechanism by which the hydroxychloroquine works."

He says Henry Ford has been using both combinations of hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin and with doxycycline because there appears to be fewer side effects with the combinations of drugs. ...

You don't need to speculate or argue about something that is a fact. Many doctors ARE using antibiotics as part of their combination of drugs to treat COVID-19.

Because of complications from the original COVID infection.

People get bacterial complications from viral infections.

See, when people use their brains, they find solutions. Repeat after me: they was never a shortage of masks. There was a shortage of brains.

It's a shame that many people won't benefit from Hydroxychloroquine if they already take it for autoimmune disorders. It's even more sad that many people are allergic to Zithromax. It can be a deadly allergy. Imagine having the double whammy such that neither drug could help you?

I agree it’s a double whammy.

Could there be a substitute for azithromycin?

For COVID? I don't know. I don't think doctors have done that much research on rhematic and / or allergic patients at this point. In daily life, most people allergic to ZPack are allergic to that entire class of antibiotic (macrolides).

GUIDELINES FOR WEARING FACE MASKS

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is recommending Americans wear facial coverings made of cloth while out in public to help stop the spread of coronavirus -- though the president repeatedly called it "voluntary".

The change in guidelines signals a major shift in how officials are looking to combat the spread of COVID-19. The president, during a briefing with the White House coronavirus task force, said the recommendation is being made because of studies indicating asymptomatic people are spreading the virus.

“In light of these studies, the CDC is advising the use of non-medical cloth face coverings as an additional voluntary public health measure," Trump said. "So it’s voluntary. You don’t have to do it.”

Source: Trump says CDC wants Americans to cover faces with cloth amid coronavirus

ASYMPTOMATIC (SYMPTOM FREE) INFECTIONS

About half of people who have the coronavirus show no symptoms, according to data from Iceland, the Italian town of Vo, and the Diamond Princess cruise ship.

The data from those places is of particular interest to researchers because in those places even people without symptoms were tested – which is not the case in the U.S. and most countries, where desperately needed tests are reserved mostly for people who show symptoms.

All 3,711 passengers on the Diamond Princess cruise ship were tested, 712 tested positive, and of those, 331 (46 percent) have never shown outward symptoms, according to Japan’s health agency, which has also been cited by the CDC.

“Many cases are apparently asymptomatic. This is both good and bad news, because it means the virus lethality may be lower than initially thought, but also that people can unknowingly spread the virus,” Patrick T. Dolan, a virologist at University of California, San Francisco, told Fox News.

In the small northern Italian town of Vò, where Italy’s first coronavirus death occurred, the entire population of 3,000 people was tested.

“We tested all residents of Vò... including those who did not have symptoms,” two Italian researchers wrote in the Guardian. The researchers were surprised to find that “a significant proportion of the population, about 3 percent, had already been infected – yet most of them were completely asymptomatic.”

In Iceland, more than 6 percent of the entire country has been tested, by far the largest proportion in the world. Nearly half of those tests have been done as part of a “screening program," in which anyone who asks for a test can get one, even if they have mild or no symptoms.

“Of the 5,502 samples taken in the screening program between March 13-19, 50 tested positive for SARS-CoV-2... 66 percent of those individuals reported symptoms, such as coughing and body ache,” Kjartan Hreinn Njálsson, at the Icelandic Directorate of Health, told Fox News, adding that the other third had no symptoms.

Non-symptomatic people can spread the disease, but, “we know that the virus is much more likely to spread from person to person if the infected one is showing symptoms,” Njálsson said.

Source: Half of people with coronavirus have no symptoms, data shows