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You appear to be trying to demonstrate that there is a distinct "British" race which is being displaced by the oncoming horde of, as you say "Johnny-come-lately" foreigners and "third-worlders". Never mind that this "British Race" has nothing to do with modern culture, never mind that as many immigrants come from 2nd and 1st world nations as anywhere else. Never mind that the "British race" (what there is of it) is from Portugal/Spain. Lets completely ignore that this nation has thrived on immigration, and completely ignore that there have been "foreigners" here for thousands of years, one way or another. You may have read the book, but it doesn't look like you understood the point of it.

So, you are busy trying to demonstrate that there is a British Race, that foreigners are ruining our nation and are more important than our "natives", and you believe that the Government and its various bodies should have carte blanche to act in any way they see fit,up to and including assault and GBH, regardless of the law or peoples rights. That's a fairly fascistic point of view, and I'm not seeing a great deal in your posts to suggest anything else. Which if you had bothered to quote me whole, you would have understood to be what I am basing my estimation of you on.

Shittiness.

I never mentioned the word "race". But obviously a distinction can be made between people whose ancestry extends back to the first modern-human inhabitants of this land and those who are very obviously directly related to people thousands of miles away -- just as a distinction can be made between native Americans and those non-indigenous individuals. In my response to jamieboy that was all I was saying.


Well, like I said, the native Americans came from Asia across the Bering Strait, but we don't mock their identity by calling them Russians. The native Australians crossed from from a different point in Asia to Australia even earlier but we don't laugh at their claim to being the first Australians. So, why do you feel the need to devalue the ancestry of British people because they originated 800 miles to the south of here over 6000 years ago?


Clearly it has not. Modern mass immigration has brought nothing but bloodshed and misery. Living where you do may see you inured to its evil, but those of us whose lives are still relatively unblighted by its malign influence dread the day that our own towns and villages are invaded.


That's rich from someone whose opinion of the book is based on a Wikipedia page!


I extend readers the courtesy of not having to scroll down acres of re-quotes by selecting just the relevant lines of your text, which actually takes more time to prepare than the method you use. The use of ellipses indicate these are truncated and so the reader can quickly refer back to your original if need be.

Did I say modern mass immigration? No. I said immigration. Immigration, emigration, international trade and just plain old international thievery are what made this island into an international power and a globe-spanning empire. We are a mongrel culture, regardless of what percentage of whom may have originated elsewhere, and we do rather well from it. The recent problem of uncontrolled immigration is (as I already pointed out) not an issue of our culture being over-run or eradicated. I'm not saying it again, go back and read why that is the case. Its categorically NOT a problem with "third-worlders". You are busy trying to imply a link between our ancestry to the ancient Britons, and the current issue of mass immigration that simply isn't there. It doesn't MATTER whether there is a "British People" or not. We could be straight up descendants from Adam (like a lot of Iraqis claim they are.) and it still wouldn't change the fact that the issues that face modern British CULTURE and SOCIETY are not "because immigrants came." The problem is that the immigrants we have REFUSE to integrate. They exist in their ghettos, sending their money back to wherever, like microcosms of wherever they started.

"Living Where I do." One of the bigger towns in the country, right on top of an international airport and slap across the main North/South rail link from London To Edinburgh, with a substantial immigrant population from a huge variety of places? Where we have Polish, Lithuanian. German, Ghurka, Iraqi, Iranian, Serbian, Croatian, Sikh, Hindu and Muslim communities all sharing the same streets, shops and housing as each other? I've probably even missed a few out. I buy cheap booze from the Poles, get my daily papers from a Sikh, my landlord is a Muslim, and I used to sell booze in turn to almost all of these ethnicities, with obvious exceptions. My youngest son was delivered by a Pole, a Scot, and a Caribbean lady, overseen by a Korean pediatrician. My family doctor is from somewhere in Kent. I had an argument once with a Consultant Assistant who clearly favoured Ganesh (both as her religious icon and in her appearance), who could barely speak English, and once had to smack a Sikh kid up side the head for being a racist prick towards his white/afro-carribbean mixed race neighbours. One of my best friends is Swedish, and I have three mixed race cousins (of various levels of removal.) One of the pertinent complaints about my partners ESA interview was that she could not understand the mangled pidgin english the "doctor" was using. At one point some years ago we had a large number of Kosovan immigrants living here, whilst at the same time were playing host to several Serbian War Criminals in our local prison. THAT was tense. I don't live in St Helens you know. (95% White that it is.) Bloodshed and misery? The biggest causers of bloodshed and misery here are WHITE MALES, 16 TO 45 years of age. By far the biggest trouble-makers we ever get are white male right-wing football fans. So yeah, I clearly don't know f**k all about immigrants or immigration, or its relative goods and evils. Your choice of wording suggests that you live somewhere that doesn't have a large immigrant population, which suggests that in fact YOU lack any active experience of the "problem". Source please where you get the information that we are "invaded" or "blighted"?

Not sure why you assume I got Oppenheimer's information from wiki either. I don't see anything in YOUR usage of the material that suggests you read the book rather than googled it. Maybe its just some sort of ridiculous attempt to increase the value of your own words, by making it look like I never get past what Yahoo answers tells me. Not that my choice of source makes you any more correct in your evaluation of the text. Guess what? I own books by not just Steve, but a couple of other Oppenheimers too.